Summary
Ray Martinez (Chief Operating Officer, 2026 FIFA World Cup Miami Host Committee) said Miami received none of its $70 million and faces cancellation decisions within 30 days.
Mike Sena (President, National Fusion Center Association) said fragmented threat systems forced analysts to monitor seven platforms during Super Bowl 60 operations.
Rep. Pou pressed Martinez on ICE enforcement at World Cup matches, and Martinez said DHS provided no briefing and he expects no operations.
Republicans blamed the partial DHS shutdown for blocking grants, while Democrats blamed the administration for withholding appropriated funds and politicizing FEMA.
With the World Cup about 107 days away, witnesses urged immediate release of security grants to fund mutual aid, counter-drone training, and staffing.
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View on Congress.govHouse of Representatives
House Homeland Security
2h 9m
Witnesses4
President, National Fusion Center Association
Chief Operating Officer, 2026 FIFA World Cup Miami Host Committee
Deputy Chief, Kansas City Missouri Police
Deputy Chief of Staff and Homeland Security Advisor, Office of the Governor, State of Maryland
Members who spoke15
Transcript
Committee on Homeland Security will come to order. Without objection, the chair may declare committee in recess at any point. Without objection, I seek unanimous consent that the gentleman from Missouri, Mister Alford, be permitted to sit with the committee and ask questions of the witnesses. Purpose of today's hearing is to assess the information sharing environment and the security operations among our federal, state, local, and non-government partners ahead of a record number of major national events. Chair reminds all members that the chair enforced the rules of the quorum at all times and urges all members to be mindful of their remarks I now recognize myself for an opening statement Good morning. I want to start by thanking our witnesses for appearing before the committee today. United States is preparing to host a mega decade of mass gathering events, starting this summer with the twenty twenty six FIFA World Cup. and nationwide celebrations to mark the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of our nation. These events are an incredible opportunity to showcase the best of America, but they also will be uh will also require unprecedented collaboration between leaders at the federal, state and local levels to secure the events and keep the public safe. Today, we will hear directly from some of those leaders about the security preparations already underway to ensure that we are already meet this moment. The twenty twenty-six FIFA World Cup will be held throughout North America in June and July, and will include more than seventy matches played in eleven different cities across the United States. With five million fans traveling to the US, and as many as six billion viewers expected worldwide, this will be the largest sporting event in history. Same time, America Two-Fifty celebrations will be held in communities across the country this summer, to commemorate the two hundred fiftieth anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence. Recognizing the years of planning that have already gone into these efforts, The committee established its task force on enhancing security for special events in the United States last spring to ensure continued prioritization of these events by Congress, federal agencies, and state, local, and private sector partners. I want to thank the task force chairman, Mister Brickell, and Ranking Member Miss Poe for their leadership and all members of the committee for their consistent engagement on these security preparations through the many briefings, hearings, and round tables that have convened. Over the last year, Congress has taken concrete action to ensure the United States will be well equipped and well prepared for the months and years ahead. I am proud of the role that this committee has played and will continue to play in moving these critical priorities forward. One of the greatest security risks facing our nation today is the malicious use of unmanned aircraft systems or drones. The prospect of weaponized drones being used at m- to attack mass gatherings in open air stadiums is a scenario that keeps poly- policymakers and law enforcement professionals up at night. In response to these threats, I was proud to work with the Trump administration and lead efforts to pass vital counter-UAS authorities for state and local law enforcement in the uh, twenty twenty-six National Defense Authorization Act, which will help support real-time mitigation efforts and counter the adversarial use of this technology. Republicans in Congress also provided historic security investments to the enactment of the one big beautiful bill last summer, which included six hundred and twenty-five million dollars for the twenty, twenty-six FIFA World Cup, security, and five hundred million for state and local investments in counter UAS capabilities. As we approach the twenty-fifth anniversary of the September eleventh terrorist attacks later this year, the solemn milestone re- re-emphasizes the importance of our collective mission in the face of constantly evolving threats. The Department of Homeland Security and this committee were both created after nine eleven to ensure that a similar attack on the United States would never happen again. In just the last three months, this committee has heard directly from Secretary Noem, and leaders from several DHS components including TSA, CBP, and CISA, whose agencies will play critical roles in safeguarding these events. Twenty-five years later, the threat landscape has not diminished. It has intensified, diversified, and evolved in ways that demand constant vigilance and decisive action. But DHS and the federal government cannot achieve this mission alone. Close collaboration, communication, and information sharing between federal, state, local, tribal and territorial governments, along with industry stakeholders and private sector partners, is essential. These games and festivities, designed to bring people together in joy and celebration, also present an array of targets for nefarious actors who seek to carry out violent attacks or exploit these gatherings for other illicit purposes. It is not an even playing field. The dedicated men and women who protect our communities every day must overcome these threats every single time. Those who seek to inflict harm only need to be right once. But that doesn't mean we give up. It means we must be prepared for every possibility and ready to combat any threat. The goal of today's hearing is to engage directly with representatives from law enforcement, host cities, and fusion centers that serve on the front lines of this whole of society security effort. Our shared objective is to ensure these partners are receiving the timely intelligence, resources, and coordination they need to carry out their responsibilities effectively and safeguard the communities they serve. If there are challenges, we have a collective responsibility to identify them and work together to find actionable solutions. Protecting public safety is not a partisan issue, and it is imperative that we work together to do so. As Chairman, I am committed to ensuring that all partners in this effort are receiving the support they need to succeed. I look forward to the witnesses' testimony today and to a productive discussion on how we can wor- all work together on these efforts moving forward. I now recognize uh the gentlelady from New Jersey, Miss Poe, for her opening statement.
Thank you, uh thank you, Mister Chairman, and good morning, good morning to all. Um thank you so very much Mister Chairman for calling this very important hearing. And welcome to our witnesses, um I wanna thank you for your valuable testimony that I know we're all going to be receiving from you today. I am stepping in for ranking member Thompson who will be joining us momentarily. Um, I serve as the ranking member of this committee's task force on enhancing security for special events in the United States. Our task force has a deeply important mission as our country prepares to host some of the world's largest gatherings and celebrations over the next three years. Events like the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of America's founding, the seventy-eight matches of the twenty twenty six fifa world cup and the twenty twenty eight olympic and paralympic uh games will put the united states on display for the entire world to see i am particularly proud that the final match of the twenty twenty six world uh cup will be held in my district in northern New Jersey. And while the hospitality and the camaraderie of these events are exciting, it is essential that we ensure the safety and security of these mass gatherings. Both Congress and the executive branch have a s- responsibility to make certain that our state our local t- our um tribals and territorial partners have all the resources that they need to get the job done. That is why today's hearing is so, so very important. While conducting oversight as ranking member of the task force, I have seen firsthand how this administration's actions are jeopardizing our security preparedness. Over the last year, the Trump administration has dismantled security cooperation at all levels of government, reduced uh counterterrorism personnel and resources, politicized FEMA funding and grants, and has openly refused to work with states run by Democratic governors and elected officials. Now, the Trump administration is choosing to withhold six hundred and twenty-five million dollar in security funding that Congress has already appropriated for the twenty twenty-six FIFA World Cup. This is money meant to help cities and states keep their games safe. These funds are just sitting there, collecting dust, waiting for FEMA approval and to be dispersed. States, host cities, and local law enforcement are begging FEMA to release this money to be able to prepare for and secure the World Cup games. The time for action is short. This isn't competency, it's chaos. I urge my Republican colleagues to join me and my Democratic colleagues in calling for the administration to release these funds now. These communities must have the resources needed to ensure the events are safe for everyone. And as we go forward, we must keep in mind that it's not just stadiums and parking lots, we must protect. It is fan festivals, entertainment districts, bars, and gathering spaces where countless people will be celebrating. Still, New Jersey will do whatever we can to provide safe and fun activities for the World Cup. And in doing so, we will ensure that all people and spaces are adequately protected. And I want to be clear, everyone Everyone deserves to be free and safe at the upcoming games, whether it is my, whether it's my constituents, traveling from Patterson to East Rutherford, or fans arriving from other si- from the other side of the world. All fans and players deserve to enjoy the games, and know that our federal government is doing everything imaginable to make these events safe and secure. I have repeatedly stated concerns about Secretary uh Christine Noms out of control in unlawful enforcement actions. We all seen DHS violent immigration tactics, which were especially apparent during the recent outrageous operations in Min- uh Minnesota. DHS personnel killed two American citizens and harmed countless others. So when Director uh Lyons refused to rule out conducting ICE enforcement at an around the world cup event, when I asked him, this very question, chaos ensued. Countries have issued uh travel advisories. Groups and businesses are raising alarms. Residents and fans are expressing fear for their safety. All while local officials report minimum c- uh communication by ICE about what exactly its plans to it plans to do. These tactics tactics pose an unacceptable risk, not just to Americans but all foreign visitors seeking to enjoy the World Cup and other events. Make no mistake, security planning cannot succeed, admit uh complete uncertainty, O PEG'd uh planning and unilateral decision making. We need to explore these issues further and conduct real oversight of DHS out of control immigration enforcement policy to ensure the World Cup is safe for everyone I have seen firsthand the amazing work that men and women uh at the state and local level are doing to make these the most secure games we ever seen. Fusion centers in New Jersey are working. Police departments in my districts are planning. Governor Sherrill's office are coordinating together. These are groups that are getting ready before the first whistle blows. The question is whether or not uh d- uh DHS will do the same. This committee has the responsibility to ensure that homeland security's uh policy is not driven by politics or retaliation but by risk assessment, operational re- realities, and federal and state coordination. Because when millions gather in my district in New Jersey or Miami or Kansas City, the American people will not care about the inter-agency turf battles or grant paperwork backlog. America's Americans will expect that their government works together because security is a shared responsibility. But leadership starts at the top, and it is time for DHS to lead. I look forward, uh, Mr. Chairman, to hear from our witnesses today and ab- about how we can ensure that this agency can improve and do just that. Because time is really running out. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I yield back.
Other members of the committee are reminded that opening statements may be submitted for the record. And I'd like to for formally introduce our witnesses. Mr. Maizena uh serves as President of the National Fusion Center Association and Executive Director of the North Northern Califine California High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area and the Northern California, Regional Intelligence Center. He brings twenty-eight years of law enforcement experience, including serving as the Veteran Investigator at the state and local level. Ray Martinez serves as the Chief Operating Officer of the twenty twenty six FIFA World Cup Miami host committee. He has thirty five years of law enforcement experience, beginning his career in nineteen seventy nine at the Miami Police Department, where he rose to the ranks from Police Officer to Assistant Chief of Police. He later served as Assistant Chief and subsequently Chief of Police for the Miami Beach Police Department. A limited exception was made today due to unforeseen uh circumstances and inclement weather disrupting travel to allow Mister Martinez
Mister Chairman, um.
Yes, the gentlelady is recognized.
Um, I'm reserving the right to object. Mister Chairman, um, I will I will not object, but I will like to get uh your assurance that witnesses invited by the committee democrats will be afforded the same opportunity to participate remotely in committee uh proceeding proceedings. On behalf of the ranking member, Thompson, can I get your commitment to work with our side in the future when remote participation is required by our witnesses?
Uh um yes uh I and I will uh as I was saying this was a very limited exception, it is in the rules um and it was a very difficult lift. I'm happy uh uh that the Majority Leader agreed. Uh, it took a lot of convincing, but because of the weather and uh him uh the gentleman not being able to make it up here, uh we were granted this very late last night um uh to allow him uh to do this. So I I I will work with you if if same situation arises. You have my word, I will do what I can to to uh to uh get the same uh uh cooperation from the Majority Leader um in the future. Again, uh, as i was told by the majority leader this is a very limited circumstance uh uh due to the the weather that uh and and how d. c. doesn't really know how to handle a snowstorm which we didn't get anyway but i will um i will do my best in the future you have my commitment
thank you mister chairman although it is fifty five degrees in florida i might add
yeah i know well yeah i'm pretty sure mister mart- martinez just didn't wanna come up and leave the beautiful weather that's down in in in florida i i we should have done a field
mmm
hearing down there
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Um, and so I I do appreciate the majority leader's willingness to grant this rare exception in order to ensure the committee can hear Mister Martinez's valuable and time-sensitive testimony as the beginning of the World Cup games are only months away. Deputy Chief Joe Maven serves as Commander of the Patrol Bureau for Kansas City and Missouri Police Department. He previously served as Interim Chief for the Police and Deputy Chief of the Investigations Bureau. He has progressed steadily through the ranks, serving as Sergeant, Captain, major and ultimately deputy chief with nearly half the department's personnel under his command. Mister Travis Nelson serves as the deputy chief of staff and homeland security advisor for the Maryland office of the governor, officially assuming the role in June of twenty twenty-five after serving as acting director for over a year. He has over twenty years' experience in the public safety, emergency management and law enforcement, including nineteen years with the Maryland State Police. Thank all the witnesses for being here today. Presumed to committee rule eight C, I ask that the witnesses please rise and raise their right hand. Do you solemnly swear that the testimony you'll give before the Committee on Homeland Security of the United States of House Representatives will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truths you've got?
I do.
Let the record reflect that the witnesses have all answered in the affirmative. Thank you very much and please be seated. I now recognize Mr. Siena for five minutes to summarize his opening statement.
Chairman Gar- uh Garbarino, uh Ranking Member Poe, and members of the committee. Uh, thanks for the opportunity to testify today. My name is Mike Senna, and I am the President of the National Fusion Center Association, which represents the eighty designated fusion centers across America. Fusion centers are the backbone of the homeland security information sharing enterprise. Every day, over thirty-two hundred analysts uh and officers from every level of government work side-by-side with the private sector to identify threats, share intelligence and coordinate operations. During major events, we collaborate with real-time crime centers, high-intensity drug trafficking areas, regional information sharing system watch centers, intelligence commanders with the major county sheriffs and major city chiefs, the US Attorney's offices, the FBI's Joint Terrorism Task Forces, the Homeland Security Task Forces and the Center for Internet Security to ensure actionable intelligence reaches decision makers. Two weeks ago, uh, we wrapped up security operations at Super Bowl sixty, which happened to be in my area of responsibility. I want to share a few examples of how we worked together and how things played out in real time and why it is so important for Congress to continue supporting us. In Sacramento, law enforcement mitigated a potential drone threat to the Super Bowl based on a tip from the Central California Intelligence Center days before the game. The night before the Super Bowl, CISA and DHSINA briefed our team on the passenger rail sabotage threats that occurred the previous day at the Winter Olympics in Italy. Our analyst quickly identified the tactics and patterns, developed a threat bulletin that we sent out to first line responders um across the Bay Area before the crowds arrived the next morning. We also helped law enforcement and nongovernment organizations in their fight against human trafficking, contacting seventy-three adults and ten juvenile human trafficking victims, including a twelve year old child. Law enforcement arrested twenty-nine sus- uh suspected human traffickers, and our fusion center analysts played an important role supporting the Santa Clara County Human Trafficking Task Force. That level of collaboration was made possible by our use of technology that combined mapping uh communication and collaboration in a single platform. We were able to integrate tips, share on-line indicators of human trafficking, analyze field reports, and receive investigative requests from multiple agencies. While we're proud of the accomplishments, and I want to point out that we do have gaps that I believe Congress can help us address. We must address um the ability to integrate the many threat reporting systems that remain fragmented today. Upcoming major events will test our ability to coordinate across jurisdictions under very compressed timelines. There are multiple systems which are not fully integrated with state and local platforms, creating delays and, more importantly, operational risk. We also must strengthen the field presence of DHS's Office of Intelligence Analysis. INA is the only element in the intelligence community required by law to share intelligence with state and local partners. We appreciate this committee for including the NFCA for discussions on how INA can be improved. Any reform must strengthen INA's presence at all A D fusion centers, while keeping a strong core component at headquarters. Regarding drones, uh we are grateful that Congress gave state and local law enforcement the legal authority to mitigate drone threats. by passing the Safer Skies Act last year. Now Congress must pa- provide the resources to expand the counter-UAS training we are required to complete to use the authorities. Congress should also provide dedicated resources for first responders to integrate drones for our daily operations. Congress should continue to provide robust support for the State Homeland Security Grant Program, SHISHGAP, and the Urban Area Security Initiative, UACI. These programs support analysts, training and technology, that make information sharing and threat analysis possible at every level, every day. Without those two grants, fusion centers cannot fully contribute to the security of major events or the overall homeland security mission. Congress should also help resolve ongoing uncertainty around FEMA grant guidance and restrictions. The ability to carry out missions like ours at the fusion center should not be penalized for policy decisions we do not control. When eligibility requirements shift, And when disbursements are delayed, it doesn't just affect local budgets. It derails national priority projects designed to prevent major threats. Cyber threats, uh, may present the greatest risks surrounding major events. A cyber attack of power, water, or transportation during the World Cup would create cat- uh cascading failures that overwhelm response. Congress should require federal cyber partners to better integrate with and provide cyber analytical training to state and local partners. Congress should provide DHS the resources to accelerate security clearance processing for fusion center personnel. Clearance delays can lock out people from secure coordination spaces at the moment they are needed most. That is a gap in coverage we cannot afford. Finally, reliable public safety communications are an absolute requirement at major events. FirstNet has been an essential partner and Congress should ensure it continues by reauthorizing the FirstNet Authority this year. In closing, planning for threat analysis and information sharing around major events is not optional. It is mission critical. When information sharing is timely and properly resourced, threats can be mitigated before harm occurs. We appreciate this committee's leadership and I appreciate your invitation to testify today.
Thank you, Mr. Sanam. I now recognize Mr. Martinez for five minutes to summarize his opening statement.
Thank you, Commissioner Gar Garbino, uh, Ranking Member Poe, and distinguished members of this committee, thank you for the opportunity to testify regarding public safety and security preparations for the FIFA World Cup. My name is Ray Martinez and I serve as the Chief Operating Officer for the Miami Host Committee. As stated previously, I've served for thirty five years in local law enforcement, my last two and a half years as the Chief of Police of the Miami Beach Police Department. enforcement, I moved into the event world and have worked on several, uh, large scale international events, including music festivals, the college football playoffs in twenty twenty one, and just last month here in Miami. And I also served as the president and CEO of the Super Bowl host committee for the twenty twenty game which was held in Miami. Working with me on the host committee are several law enforcement executives with similar if not more impressive backgrounds. Those experiences and lessons learn from the uh learned inform the approach we are taking with world cup planning. The FIFA world cup twenty twenty six will be the largest sporting event ever conducted globally. Miami is one of sixteen host cities across three countries and North America hosting matches. We will host seven matches, including a quarter final and the bronze medal final match. The Miami host committee is planning on producing a twenty three day fan festival, where we expect hundreds of thousands of international visitors. This presents a tremendous opportunity, but also a historic operational challenge. On behalf of the eleven US World Cup committees, I want to thank this committee for providing the six hundred and twenty-five million in security funding to the host cities. Those resources are critical to ensuring that host committees have capabilities necessary to execute safe and secure tournament across multiple weeks and venues in Miami our security framework is Unified command, integrated local, state and federal partnership, and intelligence driven operations. First, the unified command. Public safety operations in Miami are led by the Miami-Dade Sheriff's Office under a unified command structure that integrates municipal police, fire rescue, emergency management, and state agencies across multiple jurisdictions. Second, federal partnership with state and local agencies. The White House Task Force on the World Cup has played a central role
Right.
in aligning federal agency support with local agencies and host committee planning. We are grateful to the White House Task Force and Executive Director Andrew Giuliani's efforts to support and partner with the FIFA World Cup host committees. Federal partners, including the FBI, Secret Service, FEMA, CISA, DHF, Provide threat assessments, intelligence integration, cyber security protection, contingency planning. This coordination ensures access to national capabilities and support if threat conditions evolve. Third, intelligence driven operations. The South Florida Fusion Center, working with the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force and federal intelligence partners lead to proactive information sharing and threat monitoring. Both the Miami Stadium and Bayfront Park will operate with layer security perimeters, credential and entry screening, dedicated emergency access lanes, and joint operations centers that provide real-time situation awareness and coordinated decision making. One of the most significant emergency threats is unauthorized drone activity. Malicious or reckless drone operations present risk ranging from surveillance to operational disruption. In coordination with federal partners, we will be implementing temporary flight restrictions, detection capabilities, and counter-UAS planning integrated into our overall security posture. We appreciate the congressional's support, and particularly this committee, as well as President Trump's administration for dedicated counter-UAS funding to support these efforts. The Department of Homeland Security has assigned elevated special assessment uh, special event assessment ratings to the Miami matches, including a SEER one designation for the bronze medal final match. These designations reflect the scale into international visibility of the event and reinforce the importance of robust federal, state and local coordination, which is well underway. Miami's preparedness reflects the ongoing coordinated efforts of all eleven US host committees as we work each day to ensure a safe and secure and successful FIFA World Cup. Together, we are committed to demonstrating that no nation is better equipped to host and deliver a World Cup than the United States of America. I thank you for this opportunity to appear for you today, and I look forward to answering your questions. Thank you.
Thank you very much, Mr. Martinez. I now recognize Deputy Chief Maibin for five minutes to summarize his opening statement.
Chairman Garbarino, Ranking Member Poe, and distinguished members of the committee, thank you for the opportunity to testify today on information sharing and security collaboration ahead of major events. My name is Deputy Chief Joseph Maven, and I command the Patrol Bureau of the Kansas City, Missouri Police Department, which is a member of the Major City Chiefs Association. KCPD has a current staffing of over eleven hundred sworn law enforcement officers, serving a city of more than half a million residents. In less than sixteen weeks, Kansas City is projected to welcome more than six hundred and fifty thousand visitors during the twenty twenty-six FIFA World Cup. Kansas City has hosted major events in the past, including championship parades and iconic American sporting events such as the MLB All-Star Game and the NFL Draft. However, this event will require the largest coordinated deployment of mutual aid partners in our city's history. The twenty twenty-six F- Excuse me, FIFA World Cup is the single largest sporting event in the world. For the Kansas City metropolitan area, it represents both an extraordinary opportunity and a historic challenge. Kansas City is the smallest market among the eleven U S host cities, yet we will operate one of the largest overall footprints. We'll host six matches and four team base camps. In addition, Kansas City is planning a FIFA fan festival that will operate for eighteen days throughout the tournament. Our tournament footprint spans ten counties across two states, Missouri and Kansas. This bipartisan, excuse me, bi-state effort requires a unified approach to emergency preparedness, response and recovery. Crossing state lines adds complexity t- and com- uh to communication and coordination, coordination, making seamless information sharing essential. The scope and visibility of this event require thoughtful, comprehensive planning. Safety and security remain our top priorities. Our goal is to deliver a safe, seamless and welcoming experience for residents and visitors alike. As with any event of this scale, we are preparing for a range of potential public safety considerations, including unauthorized UAS, cyber disruptions, routine criminal activity, and increased demand on emergency and healthcare services. Central to our approach is timely, actionable information sharing with local, state, federal, and international partners. Since two thousand three, federal homeland security grants, particularly the Urban Area Security Initiative and State Homeland Security Grant program have allowed our region to build a mature multidisciplinary preparedness framework. These investments helped establish and continue to sustain the Kansas City Regional Fusion Center, our primary intelligence hub. Through this federal support, we have built interoperable radio communications and strengthened intelligence sharing. We have enhanced specialized response capabilities, including HAZMAT, EOD, and tactical WMD response teams. We conduct thousands of hours of training each year through table top, functional, and full-scale exercises. All of this allows for real-time situational awareness and response across jurisdictions. These capabilities are the direct result of sustained federal-local partnerships, which are critical to our success. They are the foundations on which we are building our World Cup The challenges facing Kansas Kansas City are driven primarily by the scale and complexity of the tournament's footprint within the region. This is not a single venue or single day event. It involves coordination of operations across multiple sites, jurisdictions, and several weeks. At the same time, we must operate with finite resources. Law enforcement personnel, specialized teams, and critical equipment are limited not only locally, but also nationally. Both cities will draw from the same pool of federal resources and specialized capabilities. We are grateful for this committee's work and support towards World Cup safety and security. The counter-UAS authorities under the twenty twenty-six National Defense Authorization Act provide critical resources to detect track and mitigate UAS threats. The FIFA World Cup security grant program is necessary to fund the personnel, equipment, and operational needs required to deliver a safe event. We appreciate the continued support and partnership as we approach this historic tournament. Kansas City's investments, backed by federal homeland security grants and state and local commitments, enhance not only our regional's readiness, but our nation's preparedness for high profile international events. Before the first whistle blows later this year, we want to ensure that information flows faster than threats, that partnerships are stronger than vulnerabilities, and that everyone experiences a safe and secure World Cup. Thank you for your continued partnership and support. I look forward to your questions.
Thank you, Chief. Uh, I now recognize Mister Nelson for five minutes to summarize his opening statement.
Chairman Gar- Garbarino, uh, ranking member Poe, and distinguished members of the committee, thank you for the opportunity to testify today. I serve as the Deputy Chief of Staff at Homeland Security Advisor for Westmore, Governor of Maryland. I receive public safety and homeland security for Governor Moore with direct oversight of the Department of Emergency Management, State Police, Department of Public Safety, Office of Homeland Security, and others representing first responders, emergency managers, and law enforcement professionals who work tirelessly to secure our communities. I am deeply, deeply grateful for and and appreciate the essential work of our local, state, and federal public servants who continue to do their duties in a constantly evolving world as all of you know our nation is entering a time of major special events that we have not encountered in decades. From the celebrations of America two fifty to the multi-city hosting of the twenty twenty-six FIFA World Cup and twenty twenty-eight Summer Olympics in Los Angeles. While these events are proud moments for our nation, they can also strain local resources and come with an increased threat to our critical infrastructure. However, as the threat profile expands and the demand on our state and local resources increases, the financial support provided by the federal government to state and local partners is diminishing. The events of September eleventh, two thousand one underscored the critical need for seamless collaboration between local state and federal agencies during major events. This realization drove the development of coordinated planning and preparedness strategies. With crucial federal financial assistance, standardized and interoperable plans, training and equ- and equipment were adopted nationwide. The foundational work, it's centered on the incident command system and the national response framework ensures that limited resources can be rapidly deployed and integrated across the country as personnel share a common operating framework. Advisory councils composed of subject matter experts from local jurisdictions have guided policies and procedures based on unique experiences. FEMA training centers allow first responders, hospital clinicians, and emergency managers to learn alongside their colleagues from across the country. This model empowers federal field office personnel from local offices to become familiar with their government counterparts developing trusting relationships, and collaborating. Maryland's CCTV situational awareness platform, MView, networks three hundred and ninety-nine federal, state, and local first responder agencies to over forty thousand cameras used to prepare for prevent and respond to major events or incidents. The program supports first responders in Virginia, DC, Maryland, Pennsylvania, and New Jersey. This includes over nine hundred and fifty federal first responders from forty-four agencies. Many of the federal users of the platform are directly responsible for the security of federal assets. The MVU platform is a proven tool, and be having been deployed for hundreds of major planned events, including fleet week, inauguration and professional sporting competitions. It has also been vital during emergency response, since the aircraft collision over the Potomac River and the Key Bridge collapsed. The MVU team is currently collaborating with organizers for the upcoming FIFA World Cup to integrate Delaware and New York into the platform. Furthermore, MBU is scheduled for use as a force multi multiplier to assist in monitoring potential threats for tonight's State of the Union address. A large portion of the this program is directly dependent upon UACI funding, but unfortunately the dramatic reduction in the NCR allocations left the future of the program uncertain. The Maryland License Plate Reader program is another initiative that directly supports criminal investigations critical infrastructure security and major event security throughout the region. The program has carefully managed to uphold citizens' civil rights and civil liberties, exclusively focusing its support on criminal investigations. In recent years, this program has directly contributed to thousands of federal partner criminal investigations, including uh security operations. Following the the sudden reduction of federal funds from the State Homeland Security Grant Program Emergency Preparedness Grant, and the Urban Area Security uh Security Initiative has left several states including Maryland, very vulnerable and faced with no option but to reduce personnel and capabilities. The cancellation of the targeted violence terrorism program on July twenty first, twenty twenty five is deeply concerning concerning uh in regards to the rising threats against local uh officials. Between the federal fiscal year twenty twenty four and twenty twenty five, we saw a reduction of over one point three million in Shiskeb and UASI funding was cut by forty four percent, a total of twenty one million. Then with the FY twenty-six grant notification, the NCR was further decreased from twenty-five point five million to four point four million, a ninety percent reduction. The administration and Congress deserves praise for their efforts in tackling the threat posed by unmanned aerial systems. This response highlights the readiness of local and state officials to collaborate seamlessly with federal agencies to address this complex threat, which spans multiple jurisdictions. Maryland is eager to continue working with the National Security Council and others. Failure to address the funding shortfalls jeopardizes the safety of upcoming special events regardless of their skies and size and scope. Thank you for your leadership and commitment to our safety and our homeland. I look forward to your questions.
Thank you, Mr. Nelson. Members will be recognized by order of seniority for their five minutes of questioning. I will be, well, maybe not today, I will be strictly keeping to the five minute rule, but if we go over, it's okay today. Um, I now recognize myself for five minutes of questioning. Mister Martinez, um, can you explain what goes into the planning, you you're you're the head of the World FIFA World Cup Miami committee, can you explain what goes into the the planning for uh, City of Miami?
Sure, thank you. Um, obviously it's very intense and very detailed, obviously working collaboratively through the Miami-Dade Sheriff's Office. As I indicated in my opening, uh, the Sheriff's Office is the lead law enforcement agency here at the local level. Uh, we have recently, uh, uh, created a, a, uh, regional, um, committee to, uh, cross jurisdictional lines. Uh, the multi-agency, uh, committee, uh, includes agency directors and representatives from across four counties, not only Miami-Dade County, but Broward County, uh, Palm Beach County, and Monroe County to our south. Uh, bringing together, uh, stakeholders, uh, public. the agencies to coordinate on the planning and uh coordination uh of the activities that are gonna be taking place here in south florida
it's not just a um it's not just the games though there are other things that you are planning for
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the uh fest festivals or like watch parties those things like that
yes sir
how much how much how much planning for security goes into that how much uh i mean it it takes quite a bit correct
it's immense i mean we've never handled anything like this even though we are used to working on major events here in in South Florida and Miami. But a twenty-three day fan festival in downtown Miami in a city park, uh, is something that, uh, has never been tried and never been done. But, uh, you know, we're we're expecting, you know, as I indicated, hundreds of thousands of people to come to South Florida to be part of the game, and understanding that, you know, not everybody's gonna get into the stadium. So, you know, the fan fest is gonna be the location where people are gonna go to enjoy uh, the matches, to see the matches, to be with their, you know, fellow countrymen, and to be able to celebrate, uh, hopefully their victories. Um, and then on top of that, there will be regional watch parties across the three counties, uh, and really across the state of Florida. Um, so, you know, that coordination is critical and making sure that the information is shared and, you know, goes across jurisdictional lines.
The, so the money, we, the one big beautiful bill had the reconciliation bill had six hundred and twenty five million dollars in fema grants for measures. I think Miami was supposed to get around seventy million of that. I think that's what you all applied for. Has has any of those funds been received yet?
No, certainly have not.
Now, let me ask you a question. What happens when, I mean, it, I mean, I'm sure you put it into your budget, these these fema grants. Um, what happens if you don't get that money? So when is the drop-dead date for you to start having to cancel things if you don't get that money in?
i mean we're we're quickly approaching that we're a hundred and seven days out from the tournament but more importantly we're about seventy something days out from starting to build the fan fest these decisions have to be made uh i mean generously i say within the next thirty days is the drop dead date i know that the local agencies are very anxious um but without receiving this money it could be catastrophic for our planning and coordination
so if the if you don't get the FEMA grants in the next thirty days, miami the city of miami is gonna have to start cancelling uh, plan because you can't prepare for the security of the of those sites.
that is correct we we have to start making some really tough decisions and it starts with our fan festival. obviously the matches up at the stadium uh, you know will take place but you know preparing for all of the impromptu events and uh you know watch parties that we're expecting to see will become be will be in jeopardy as we continue.
I appre- I appreciate that answer. I I'm running out of time, so I wanna uh move over. Um, Susana, we heard about uh special assessment ratings this year, uh and these events are getting SEER one or SEER two uh ev- events, so res- extra resources are are uh made available following those designations. We are currently experiencing a partial government shutdown specifically at homeland. Um, uh department of homeland and i wanna know has the shutdown affected negatively affected information sharing networks um that you deal with you know being
um
with the fusion centers have are you seeing a negative effect from the shutdown or do you expect to see if this lasts longer a negative effect from the shutdown.
um currently we're not seeing a
currently we're not seeing a major uh issue with uh the shutdown but as time progresses i definitely believe that we will um we rely heavily on coordination with our partners in the Department of Homeland Security, if any of their resources are available, but one of the primary ones is, you know, that coordination with FEMA on the grant process. Uh, I mean, we've already dealing with many delays, which we don't know if and when we're gonna get funding to continue operations. So the longer they are not around and not at their desks and not working on this process, the longer we don't know what's gonna happen with the money we need to execute for these World Cup games.
Thank you very much. Uh, my time has expired. I now recognize uh ranking member for today, Miss Poe, for five minutes of questions.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Um, again, thank you to all the witnesses for testifying today. I just wanna make sure to to mention once again that, you know, we all understand that recent DHS enforcement has raised some serious alarms about its impact on public safety. Polls shows that most Americans believe that ice actions have gone too far and makes us less safe. As we prepare for the host uh Wor- um to host the World Cup in my district,
Mm-hmm.
including the title game, we cannot have uh roaming packs of masked ice agents harassing fans and players. At our last hearing, I directly asked Director Lyons about ice plans at the World Cup. He confirmed ice presence and refused to rule out immigration rates. His refusal raised concerns, grave concerns within my district and sent shockwaves across America and the world. Mister Martinez, um has DHS directly briefed you regarding the ICES uh plan at the World Cup matches in, uh Miami, yes or no?
No.
Okay, um. publicly stated uh uh ice publicly stated that it would have a key role at that world cup are you concerned about that yes or no
not at the moment no
mister martinez are you aware that conversations between fifa and dhs regarding ice enforcement activity at the world cup yes or no sir as
yes
Has um FIFA specifically asked DHS to suspend immigration enforcement actions at the the official World Cup venue or uh or events and events?
Uh, I am not aware of uh whether FIFA has made that request or not.
OK. What what what's what's the point of giving President Trump a peace prize if we cannot keep his masked agents from terrorizing fans and players? It's Absolutely observe, obs observe. Mister Martinez, if a fan is detain is detained by ice at a Miami, World Cup game or FIFA fan event, have you and DHS set a a process to inform family members or legal counsel?
We have been in constant communication with our federal partners, and we have received no indication of immigration enforcement that will be taking place during the tournament. Uh, we are laser focused here at the Miami host committee in providing a safe and secure event. Uh, the only thing I can base on is in recent experience during the last year of our major events, which includes the College Football National Championship, Formula One, and the Club World Cup, which was held this past summer. And we did not experience any ice enforcement activity as described.
Mister, thank you. Thank you, uh, Mister Martinez. Mister Martinez, With only roughly four months to go, some cities still report that they have not received this funding. I think you've just the chairman just asked you the that very question and you've indicated that you have not received that. The um this is completely unacceptable and certainly close to kick off. As you've pointed out, you have uh dropped a date of uh time of thirty minutes. Um, officials in the Foxborough, Massachusetts, for example, are still waiting for one million um of dollars. They say they cannot hold games if they can if they do not receive the money. Uh, Mister Martinez and Deputy Chief uh Mabin, have either of you received federal funding? And I know, Mister Martinez, you indicated that you have not. Mister uh Chief Deputy Chief Mabin, can you tell me if you have received any information with regards to the actual funding that you are in uh expected to receive. Have you received that or not?
No ma'am, we have not.
What what kind of delays or impact will that have if you do not get that? And similar to what the chairman asked, how what is your d drop dead uh time frame in order to do that? And I have like thirty four seconds, so let's do real quick.
Go quickly. Um, the drop dead date is is is immediate. Uh, we need commitments from mutual aid partners to help supplement our officers, just because of the scope, scale and duration of the games. And they need assurances that they will get reimbursed for overtime, for travel expenses, for lodging. So we need that information right now.
Is there any concern on the overtime uh of your personnel as a result of not having uh the the wherewithal to do that?
Yes, ma'am. That is a a consideration for our budget. uh we definitely need a a answer on that and to release the funds as soon as possible.
Thank you um Deputy Chief and Mister Martinez, my time has run down uh run run off. Uh thank you so very much. Are you back?
General Lady yields back. I now recognize the Chairman of the Task Force and the former Chairman of of this committee uh Mister McCall from Texas, uh for five minutes of questions.
Thank you Mister Chairman. Uh let me start out by saying I remember back uh I might share this with the the Boston Marathon bombing, just really a sporting event that went really bad. And um and it was it was avoidable, it was preventable had federal, state, and local been sharing information. Uh the FBI had information about Mister Tamerlan's trip to Dagestan where he radicalized, came back. Uh they did not share that adequately with the Jo- Joint Terrorism Task Force. Specifically the Commissioner of Boston didn't have any of that information. even though he had two agents or two officers on the task force, we changed that by law. Um, but it's all about connecting the dots. Uh, Mister Senator, you're in charge of the fusion center, which sometimes comes under criticism. We formed the fusion center to share, you know, everybody talks about connecting the dots after nine eleven. That's exactly uh what you're doing. What do you see as one of the biggest threats? As you look at the environment out there and the threat matrix, What uh keeps you up at night the most?
It's combination of things. Um, you know, the first thing in the back of my head always right now is the financial piece cuz we do need the the resources to get things going but it's it's
And I'll get to that in a minute, yeah. But it's right.
it's it's a threat um because if we don't have the right people in place to do the job,
Correct.
it won't get done. The other thing is the the multimodal communication systems that we've got right now. Um, the lack of getting that that tip and lead. um, that piece of information, we do a lot of work educating um our law enforcement, public safety, private sector partners um on what we need as far as those tips and leads, those suspicious activity reports, but we have a lot of different places those go right now. Uh, multiple federal systems, multiple private sector parties that take tips and leads. Um, the problem is when you have so many silos, how do you connect them all? And then when it comes to game day and those operations at a time, how do you bring people together? And for example, during Super Bowl we had seven different systems up. And so that worries me tremendously, merging those technologies.
Although Super Bowl is a test, right?
It's a test for us because we're having a, FIFA's coming to town, so that was a test. And I can tell you that came up in the after action when people were talking,
Yep.
you know, how do I watch seven systems that I'm having to put data into? Seven different platforms. Uh, my own people especially. Uh, but how do we merge those? And and technology is there. It's it's policy and practice and training.
Well, the technology there is a policy in practice prohibiting that?
It is. Everyone has their own silo. So everyone's got their favorite place.
Okay, that's a real problem. So we don't we only have uh it's it's gonna be March. And if they start in June, you got a hundred games,
Yep.
over a hundred games in three countries, you know, Mexico, Canada, United States. We actually quickly uh we were down in Mexico and got a joint uh training program with our military, both respective United States and Mexico. passed by their parliament. Uh, we saw the recent events in Mexico. Uh, they have drones. Uh, the violent uptick after the Jalisco cartel member was taken out. Uh, I know this is not in your purview, but you have to learn from those mistakes. How concerned are you about the gains in Mexico?
The the big concern I've got, especially with drone activity, is that um, and i- for that example, I had a person that was planning on on flying a drone right into the Super Bowl. And so that part of that is that we can and have countermeasures there, but there are so many other locations that we don't have people trained and equipment in place for countermeasures, that they can go anywhere a crowd is at and immediately hit those targets, and cause mass destruction. And we don't have the capability across the board to fight every drone threat.
That's a great segue to my next point, and that is under the Safer Skies Act, the chairman introduced to my task force recommended. Uh, we got that passed in the national defense authorization. That gives the ability to share with state and local as the counter drone authorities, which is critically important. I'm surprised we had any opposition to that. Uh, however, about six hundred and twenty-five million dollars, we passed a continuing resolution out of the house on DHS funding. That was a- already authorized and appropriated by congress to go forward and be implemented under fema to security for the fifa games however the senate is playing politics with this and had decided to shut down the federal government i would argue it's gonna be on their head if they don't get this government back open and get this money directly to your fusion centers and the state and locals here if something bad happens it's gonna be on their their head, you know, and and I urge them to get this thing done and stop playing games, because of the games we're talking about, you're gonna see another Boston bombing if we don't get that money out the door. I think all of you have testified how important that grant funding is. I know the chairman and ranking member here were both uh very vigilant about staying, you know, on top of that. Um, final minute on on Well, I'll talk to you off the record later about your drone uh mitigation at the Super Bowl, but I think that's really the thread here. I yield back.
Gentleman yields back. I now recognize the gentleman from California, Mister Correa, for five minutes.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I want to welcome our witnesses today, being here, sharing your intel. Little history. Nine one one. We had silos. Information in one hand, information in the other hand. If it could have been shared, maybe nine one one could have been prevented. And that's why homeland security was created. Sharing information. Mister Maven, you talk about the fact that uh FISA, FIFA will be the single largest sporting event in the world. That's impressive. And that's also a big target. Uh, and Mr. Senna, you you mentioned that uh shared info is the backbone of Intel. Few months ago we had my my good Sheriff Don Barks from Orange County here, eight months ago, and he was talking about the withholding of billions of dollars of FEMA funding for fusion centers. And he said, and I quote him, "stepping back from our posture in our fusion centers." I think Sheriff Barnes is trying to say that not getting that FEMA funding is going to hurt your posture, defending our citizens, preventing a major catastrophe. And God knows we have a lot of frenemies out there right now. So, your fusion center in Northern California is a hundred percent funded through FEMA preparedness grants? How long has it been since you've gotten these grants?
Uh, actually we've been receiving these grants uh for our center since two thousand and four.
And lately?
Well, we have not gotten our last uh twenty uh twenty-five uh allocation, so um y- we are we are gonna be short this year if it doesn't show up.
So right now you're beginning to feel the challenges of not being properly funded in order to defend our citizenry with this fifa coming up and the olympics coming up and so on and so forth
absolutely sir without the personnel to do the analysis without the threat liaison officers to do the outreach and training on specific activity report without the technology in place and some of the technology we have built is actually supporting all of fifa for the entire nation so eh without that those resources and capabilities um we will you know be blinded to the threats
well i just wanted to Thank you for being here today, and uh uh I'm in concurrence with my colleagues. We gotta stop playing politics with this stuff, with these funds that are so critical to defending our country. We had a lesson, nine one one. I don't wanna relive that lesson, and Sheriff Don Barnes, who I think you know very well, he's gotta protect Disneyland and we're a very high target in people's lists. We have the Anaheim Angels, the Anaheim Ducks, Lot of things going on in Southern California. And I guess I'm gonna ask you to help us get the message out. In Washington, there's a lot of things that we get caught up with that are supposed to be important. But heaven forbid we have another nine one one coming at us. It'll change us again in ways we can't even imagine. So, I would ask you to continue to come up here and talk to my colleagues and myself, both sides of the aisle. Remind people how important it is. to protect our citizens through proper funding. And hopefully we get that female funding up and running so that you can do your job. Fusion centers, love what you do out there, very impressive, good intel, and God knows there's a lot of information out there you gotta sift through to get to the bottom. So, um, thank you very much and, um, I just wanted to again invite you to come back and let us know what is important at the end of the day. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Gentleman yields back, I now recognize the gentleman from Florida, Mister Jimenez, for five minutes questions.
Thank you, Mister Chairman, and um as I'm sitting here uh listening uh to um some of my colleagues on the other side of the of the aisle are complaining about ICE enforcement and and ap- apparently ICE enforcement is the issue that has caused us to shut down uh DHS. The problem is that ICE is funded like till through tw- twenty twenty seven so what it is that they're all complaining about and shutting the government down it doesn't affect the thing that they're complaining about so this is all political theater and unfortunately you're gonna be paying the price cause the people that are supposed to be processing the grants are non-essential therefore they're not working and so those folks that you're relying on to get the uh the money for uh for the FEMA grants it's not coming until the government reopens And so I hope that that doesn't mean that there's gonna be some kind of tragedy happening in the United States because the government and DHS itself is um is closed. Now, the facts are there are some jurisdictions that are uh gonna be able to absorb this a little bit better than others. Um, and um, I know that you're all gonna do what you have to do in order to protect the public. Regardless if we give you the money, we will give you the money, eventually you will get it, okay, the question is your capacity. to float, you know, that until you finally get the money, because we're notorious here for saying we're gonna give you stuff, and we won't give it to you for about five years, okay. So, just think about that. Um, uh, Chief Martinez, um, good to see you, I mean, uh, I know you're you're in Miami, you're a smart guy, just stayed there. Um, my concern for, my main concern, a big concern I have is uh, drones. and the, and the, the usage of drones and, and as a potential terrorist threat. Do you feel that, uh, you have the authorities needed in order to handle that threat now?
Well, certainly with the changes that have been made, uh, we feel more confident. Uh, uh, local representatives from the major agencies, including Miami Dade Sheriff, City of Miami Police, Broward County, Florida Highway Patrol, uh, are have either attended or scheduled to attend the required training. So we feel confident that we will be able to uh deploy teams to these critical sites, both at the stadium and the fan fest. Uh the issue is being able to cover other areas that may be popping up, you know, impromptu celebrations, uh watch parties that could hold, you know, five hundred, a thousand, two thousand people uh across the region. So, you know, we don't have the resource to cover every spot. But we do feel confident that we will have the the resources and the technology to cover the the main ones which are the stadium and the fan fest.
Do you feel that you have the the technology that will allow you to actively um incapacitate any any drone that may be a threat to um you know to the population?
Well, I know the agencies are in the process of obtaining and procuring uh those resources and those technologies. Uh, they have not been received yet, so, you know, we're hopeful obviously we're piggybacking on the federal government to be able to source those uh those technologies so you know, I guess, yes, we do feel confident if everything comes to fruition. Uh, and and we feel that uh, you know, we're moving in the right direction to uh, to support that.
uh will you will you require federal resources for that are they gonna be the only ones that are um that have the authority to do something about that or is that authority been delegated also down to the local local uh uh law enforcement agencies
uh some of it has been delegated down to a limited uh scope uh and that's what the required training is for um but we also will be depending on our federal partners to assist us in in those matters, especially at the stadium.
Are you comfortable with that or would you or would you feel more comfortable in also getting additional authority to be able to handle the situation as you see fit?
I mean certainly having additional authority, you know, would would be beneficial, no question. Um, you know, understanding the the difficulty in doing that, uh, you know, we're thankful for what we have, but certainly we would welcome, you know, increased authority, especially you know, as w it relates to these international type of games and matches where, you know, obviously the crowd size and the target and the threat, you know, is significant.
Fair enough. Thank you very much. Uh, you're back. Gentlemen, you're back, I now recognize the gentleman from Louisiana, Mister Carter, for five minutes.
Thank you, Mister Chairman, and thank you to our witnesses for joining us today. I proudly represent New Orleans, the greatest city in the world to host major events. like last year's Super Bowl, the allure of the city, means we're responsible for protecting countless mass gatherings throughout the year. Mardi Gras, Jazz Fest, Essence Fest, the Sugar Bowl, Taylor Swift concerts, the list goes on and on. The terrorist attack last year on the early hours of New Year's Day on Bourbon Street served as a stark reminder of how terrorist tactics are evolving and the importance of enhanced coordination between our federal, state, and local security agencies during these events. However, the administration has repeatedly obstructed FEMA, politicizing the agency and delaying disaster preparedness and response. Last week, it reportedly told FEMA to halt all travel, seemingly to create fallouts from DHS's funding lapse, despite FEMA's testimony to Congress that it will continue to disaster response to use the funds unaffected by the shutdown. The politicization of FEMA makes America less secure every day, especially while preparing for large scale events when communities are most vulnerable to security threats. Mister Nelson, Maryland is no stranger to the Trump's administration's politicization of disaster aid. When historic flooding hit Western Maryland in twenty twenty five, did Maryland meet the criteria for receiving federal assistance? And do you feel that President Trump's, Trump, President Trump made an objective non-political decision when he rejected Governor Moore's request for assistance?
Well, thank you for that question, and uh yes, we did meet the threshold uh at, we are currently at thirty four million dollars in damage uh for the thirteen million minimum and uh was really not given any uh true reason for why it was denied.
For each of our uh other speakers, would you agree that the disbursement of emergent if emergency funds should not, uh, underscore not, be, uh, decided by politics or party.
For me, sir, uh, it's yes or no.
Yes.
Ye- yes, sir.
Thank you.
Yes, sir.
Yes. Yes, sir.
Thank you very much. Um, has there been or could there have been in the future a fiscal impact on Maryland's taxpayers or local government if DHS continues to delay these reimbursements.
Yes, absolutely.
We've witnessed an increase in attacks on religious institutions, recently including an arsonist who set fire of a synagogue and ranking member Thompson's district in Mississippi. Despite this heightened threat, environmental environment, DHS has not released nearly three hundred million dollars in non-profit security grants that Congress appropriated almost a year ago. Mister Nelson. Are you concerned that delays in dispersing funding for non-profit security grant programs could further jeopardize the security of houses of worship in Maryland?
Yes, I am.
Can you expound on that?
Absolutely. So the instability, these are uh funds that are directly distributed to places of worship. Um, so it's difficult for them to be able to budget and to balance in the security needs. And if we can't commit to them uh the the funding that is being gonna be passed down to them they have to make difficult decisions on uh what they are going to invest in uh with their places of worship ultimately opening up to vulnerabilities
thank you and let the record reflect mister chairman that all of the witnesses said uh affirmatively that the disbursement of funds for natural disasters that happen not by party not by race not by a social economic standards, um but by mother nature, by uh acts of perhaps the issues of mankind with climate change should not be withheld for political party, political purpose, political theater, they should be given according to meeting the minimal thresholds of a natural disaster or or an emergency declaration which Marilyn did, and we're hopeful that we will not see further cases where resources are withheld, because it wasn't my party, wasn't my president, not my problem. We're Americans, natural disaster and FEMA, and the resources should be given as needed regardless of any politics. Mr. Chairman, I yield.
Gentleman Neals back. I now recognize the gentleman from Alabama, Mr. Strong, for five minutes questions.
Thank you. Uh, Chairman Garbarino, ranking member Thompson. As we prepare to host the FIFA, World Cup, Olympics, America two fifty, and even college sporting events, we face an unprecedented mix of security challenge. It is past time to unleash counter-UAS to defend America and its citizens from drone attacks. Much of that technology is developed in my district. Our ability to protect fans, athletes, and host communities will depend on how well we are prepared, trained, and share information and respond under pressure. I'm proud to represent Redstone Arsenal in Huntsville, Alabama, where the FBI recently opened the National Counter Unmanned Aircraft Systems Training Center, America's premier hub for training law enforcement and security professionals to counter the threat posed by drones all under one roof. Deputy Chief uh Maben, the threat uh posed by rogue unmanned aircraft systems to stadiums and fan venues may represent one of the greatest security challenges we face in hosting these large-scale events. Congress recently extended authorities to state and local law enforcement to mitigate these drone threats. How do you anticipate these expanded authorities will help your officers secure World Cup sites, stadiums, and fan festivals, which is uh, you think about the World Cup itself, it's equivalent to seven Super Bowls at the same time.
Absolutely. Uh, it's a a question of scale. We will get federal support. Um, uh counter UAS support but it's limited. And by expanding these authorities to local police departments, we're able to cover down on the other areas. Uh it's more than just the stadium, it's also the FIFA fan festival areas. And so once we get the training and procure the resources, then we'll be able to be better positioned to counter any kind of UAS threats.
Thank you. Has anyone from your department coordinated with or received training through the FBI's counter UAS training center? at Redstone Arsenal.
Yes, sir, we have uh individual schedules to go down for the training right now.
Thank you. Mister Martinez, building on uh that point, uh how have organized uh committees been working with federal, state and local partners to ensure strong counter-UAS mitigation procedures in place?
So we've been making sure obviously that the uh, you know, responsible agencies uh, as I mentioned earlier, from the Miami Dade sheriffs, the City of Miami, Broward County sheriffs and uh across the state from the Florida Highway Patrol are uh able to receive that training and as I indicated um many have already received it and those that have not are scheduled to receive it in the next month or two. So working with our federal partners you know to insure that those uh trainings are provided uh for for those jurisdictions is critical. Um we're continuing to work obviously with our federal partners in communicating, you know, what our overall drone threat plan will be and, you know, uh, collaborating with them on the deployment of these resources.
Do you see any gaps in preparedness as we approach summer?
Well, the the gaps for us is really in the funding, uh, a has been highlighted. You know, it is absolutely critical to be able to get this funding. You know, as uh, uh, Congressman Jimenez uh indicated, You know, the, the agencies will step up and provide, you know, the, the resources that are needed. But our fear is that decisions will be made on budget instead of threat assessment, uh, especially as we get closer and the actual scale of it, uh, starts to show itself. So that's why we feel it's absolutely essential to be able to get that money, uh, released, so the agencies have the comfort in knowing that they will be reimbursed.
Thank you. Switching gears, with over thirty-six years' uh experience as an emergency medical technician and forty years as a firefighter, I take emergency response and public safety extremely serious. Uh, when we host events of this scale, it's critical that fire and EMS officials are not only present, but fully trained, equipped and integrated into security planning. Mister Martinez, what are the greatest areas of need for fire and EMS officials, ahead of these games and how are you ensuring they are fully prepared to respond if the unthinkable occurs?
Absolutely. We've been working very closely with the major uh fire and emergency management agencies here, including the Miami-Dade Fire Department and the Miami-Dade Department of Emergency Management. We have held already several large-scale, full-scale exercises as well as numerous tabletop exercises. uh, to develop uh responses and capabilities and understanding of what those capabilities are for all of the agencies involved. Uh, the Miami Dade Fire Department is taking the lead in coordinating with local municipal fire departments including the City of Miami, Miami Beach, Coral Gables, uh, for mutual aid, and as well as coverage in their jurisdictions. So we feel we have a, a very strong, you know, assessment of our capabilities as well as uh training uh ongoing training that has been taking place over the last year and a half and it will continue on leading up to the games themselves.
I wanna thank all of our witnesses, Mister Chairman I yield back. Gentlemen yield back and I recognize the ranking member of the full committee, Mister Thompson, five minutes.
Thank you very much Mister Chairman, uh and I welcome all our witnesses today. Uh according to several state and stakeholders, the Trump Administration continues to withhold over one point two billion dollars in FEMA counterterrorism funding that should have been provided to communities almost six months ago, uh, for programs such as Urban Area Security Initiative and Nonprofit Security Grant program. The Trump administration is even challenging court orders that would make this funding available immediately to first responders, nonprofits, and other local partners. In many communities, this lack of funding is jeopardizing security prepared preparations for upcoming large events such as the FIFA World Cup, America two-fifties celebration and twenty twenty-eight Olympic games. And as my colleague uh, Mister Carter mentioned, uh, we had a a synagogue bombed uh in my district recently and uh the the money that identified the the culprit was the non-profit security grant program, uh, that the cameras, uh, caught him and subsequently he's admitted to the to cause. So if this money is not available or delayed, as it currently is, uh, Mister Nelson, can you discuss, uh, those impacts on Mar- Maryland's when DHS delays and fight court orders to provide necessary counterterrorism funding going to nonprofits, first responders, and other local partners.
Thank you, Ryan, Commander Thompson, and um so in response to that we recognize that it's critical and in fact, the state was uh deeply concerned that the federal government would not provide the funds and actually found a way to supplement some state funding, uh because of their increased concern around this uh this risk area. Um, so in that sense, we we are deeply concerned about the sustainability of the nonprofit security grant and distributing those funds efficiently, down to the the places of worship and other eligible applicants to uh better protect those uh vulnerable populations.
So your testimony is that those programs are not only uh essential, but pretty much uh required if we're gonna protect houses of worship uh and other places like that.
Yes, sir, as much as Governor Moore has dedicated state funding to to back up that fact.
Well, uh, another comment that that, uh, Mister Chairman will be coming in contact with is right now the secretary is signing each grant award of a hundred thousand dollars or more. Um. Chief Martinez. Uh. Do you uh right now, are you applying for monies in excess of a hundred uh thousand dollars?
Yes, sir.
Uh, would a delay in the s execution of those contracts create a problem for your agency?
Yes, sir, they would. It wou it could be catastrophic for us.
Um, Mister Mabin.
Yes, sir.
Would would that be a problem for you too?
Yes, it was, sir.
Well, a- a- and as I think a lot of us have already indicated, uh, that's a for the third largest government agency to get down to the hundred thousand contract signing. That that slows down the process. And and I I, Mr. Chairman, I look forward to us trying to uh work with the secretary to uh unblock uh the backlog of contracts on her desk, uh because that that creates a problem. Now the other question, Mr. Nelson, UASI is a good program. And do you see any any dangers in not funding those UASI cities in a timely manner?
Absolutely, to the point that, uh, the response today for the State of the Union addressed some of those capabil capabilities will be diminished in future years if we don't receive the funding.
Yeah, uh, and that's for the big cities. You know, it's not for the the little folk uh but we created a special program uh for those large areas because they need the assistance and if for whatever reason those funds are not made available then those communities become uh susceptible to potentially any kind of uh a danger so i look forward to trying to unblock the log jam and get the monies to the communities where they need it. A yield back, Mister Chairman.
Gentleman yields back. I now recognize the gentleman from Arizona, Mister Crane, for five minutes of questions.
Thank you, Mister Chairman, for holding this committee. Thank you to our witnesses for uh showing up today. You know, it's just unbelievable to me that we sit here in this hearing today, which is about security and intelligent sharing for these large events coming up in the United States of America, like the FIFA World Cup, the Olympics, et cetera. And my Democrat colleagues continue to blast the Trump administration for not funding the Department of Homeland Security and all of our efforts that are designed to keep these people that are citizens foreign travelers, and these events safe from attack. And yet not single, not one single one of them voted for the department. of Homeland Security Appropriations Bill. People ask me all the time, is is is Washington DC is is bad as we think it is? This committee hearing right here is a perfect of example of how bad it really is. They'll sit here and talk about the Trump administration and how they're not distributing funds for these events and to keep our communities safe. And yet not single, not one of them voted for the Department of Homeland Security appropriations. That covers the Coast Guard, it covers CISA, cyber security, it covers ICE, Department of Homeland Security, all of it. And they, they didn't vote for any of it. Mister Sina, what are your thoughts on that?
From my perspective, uh, you know, what we're able to do and capable of doing right now has been built up over twenty plus years. And we're still not quite where we need to be as far as the information sharing and and overcoming the silos. I think on the funding piece that
No, that's not what I asked you, sir, with all due respect.
Yes sir. Yes sir.
And I know, I get it. I get it, you're trying to be a nice guy in here. I asked you, when you hear all these comments from people that voted against funding the Department of Homeland Security, is there a part of you that's like, " Really?" I- i- this is political theater, that's what it really is.
I I do think that uh the impasse that we have right now with the with the grant funding and with the support of the department overall I I can tell you that on a daily basis, we work with partners from all of the DHS components and without their resources in place, we can't be successful. And so without them being fully open operational, it it causes problems for for us in fighting the threats from transnational organized crime uh to human trafficking to counterterrorism. Uh, they need the resources as much as possible to get, and that includes, uh, DHS Office of Intelligence Analysis. Without their backbone supporting us, that's a problem.
How about TSA? Right?
Huge.
The fo- the folks that, you know, work work in airports every day to make sure the folks coming into these events are gonna be able to get here and attend these events. Is that open right now? Is that is that funded?
That's a, that's a problem. And, uh,
I wanna read some quotes that I heard just in this hearing today from some of our Democrat members. "This admin has jeopardized homeland security efforts. The time for action is short. Release these funds now." everyone deserves to be safe and free at these events. Security planning cannot take place during insecurity. We're Americans. Funding should be given regardless of politics. Did you guys hear those? I, I just wanna make the point again, if, if you're a Democrat on this dais and you fund, you voted to fund the Department of Homeland Security, please raise your hand. That's what I thought. And so, you know, it's just It's just too hard to sit here and listen, and they're hoping that nobody calls them out on their gaslighting. They're hoping that nobody does, and that we all just play nice in here. I'm not gonna do it. That's not why my constituents sent me to Washington DC. Chief Maben, if you guys don't get the funding that you need, how's it gonna impact Americans that, not just in their regular lives, but if they're going to, trying to go to the FIFA World Cup?
Specifically with FIFA, um, our security plans rely on mutual aid partners, and they need assurances that they will be refunded or be able to seek overtime and travel funds and so that would neg negatively impact our security posture.
Uh, Mister Sina, I do wanna hear more about this drone incur attempt uh with the NFL. What did that drone have a payload?
to be uh flyers but it could have been anything attached to it.
Thank you, I yield back.
Gentleman's time has expired, the chair recognizes the gentleman from Texas, Mister Green.
Thank you, Mister Chairman. Thank the ranking members as well. And I say sincerely that I'm most appreciative for this hearing. I did not vote to uh support many of the things that I find honorous with um within homeland security. But that's a discussion that I'll be willing to debate in future time with a member who's appropriately ready to debate. Now, moving on to today's hearing. Uh, I don't have any gotcha questions. I really wanna find out what we're doing in the area of human trafficking. I wanna find out because my county, Harris County, is one of the leading counties in the country when it comes to human trafficking. I'm interested in knowing what is our approach, how will we deal with recovery and response, uh rehabilitation to a certain extent, how will we deal with prevention, uh these are some serious questions that we need to answer, because with human trafficking being more than two hundred billion dollars uh in terms of an enterprise globally, more than two hundred billion dollars, we've got to concern ourselves about the young ladies, the children, who are going to be uh trafficked at an event such as what we will have in Houston, Texas. And I'm concerned about the entire country, but I just wanna make sure that we protect people who are going to be at this event. Uh, Chief, if I may ask you, Deputy Chief, Uh what what are your thoughts in terms of where we are with human trafficking, in terms of preparedness to deal with it, because we know that it will occur, and it will occur in a huge uh massive way in Houston, Texas, if we're not careful. So how do we deal with it?
I'm glad you raised that issue, a very important issue. Um, major sporting events around the world are are known to have uh human trafficking uh occur when they when they happen. And so we're educating our front-line officers i in teaching them to recognize the signs of human trafficking. Uh we're partnered with the FBI on different task forces that tra um target human traffickers and uh inter internet crimes against children crimes. Uh we're also reaching out to our uh private partners, uh hotels, to let them know what the signs are, and the airport um and we're really doing a broad education camp
Well, thank you very much, uh, and I appreciate you saying it's a major concern and it where you are positioned, but uh it's my understanding that you need money to facilitate and to activate the necessary people power to make the difference. Uh, Miss Acina, is that correct?
Uh, that's correct, sir. Uh, if it without the resources, I mean, we have analysts that are working every day to fight this issue. And I have to compliment, uh, you know, Mike McDaniel, the the Hyde director for Houston who's been at the forefront of this, um, in this human trafficking effort. But one of the things that we do is bringing together technology, bringing together our our Microsoft teams and ESRI platform, which we use successfully at, uh, the Super Bowl. Um, and thanks to, you know, the task force there, um, led by, um, you know, our team from the Santa Clara County, we were able to bring together over sixty agencies and identify eighty three vectors.
Let let me intercede for just a moment and ask this question, please. Uh, we are less than four months away from this activity, uh, actually being initiated. So with this limited amount of time, at some point you can receive dollars and you cannot use them efficaciously Because time is not on your side. Uh, do you not need to have the funds now?
S we need we needed them six months ago actually, but we do need them now. We've got a and the other part of this is that there are gaps in this, as you mentioned earlier. Once we contact victims, getting them the support that they need, um, it's horrendous the situation we're in right now with no place to put people, no housing, uh, not having child protective services folks available and others to help out.
And and you said child protective services,
What the situation?
children, we're talking about children, as old as as young as what, sir?
And the Super Bowl? Twelve years old.
Twelve years old, being trafficked.
Being trafficked.
Well, and and you can prevent much of this if you have the funds that you need for recovery and response, which means to help them through the trauma that they are suffering. Uh, this is a part of it, is it not?
Absolutely, sir, without those resources. we can't get the victims of the help and they can get pulled back into being trafficked again.
Gentlemen's time is
Thank you for your time, Mr. Chairman.
Thank you. Gentlemen's time has expired. The chair now recognizes myself for five minutes. Um, thank you all for being here. We have a lot of activities that are gonna be ongoing in the next uh two to three years. Uh, America's two hundred and fiftieth birthday, the World Cup, the Olympics, uh, not to mention the normal pace that we keep up with just normal uh events around the country. So, I'll start by saying thank you. Uh, the work that you do is incredibly important. Um, I have visited uh several fusion centers and, Mister Sina, I I appreciate um just how nuanced it is. Uh, and agree with my colleague, Mister Crane, that um if this is not bipartisan, if we can't move in a bipartisan way to fund the security of our homeland, then wha- what are we doing? Um, and You know, let's get to some of those questions about just how important it is. Um, so, given the activity that we have seen from the cartels recently, uh, that have happened, uh, in Mexico in the last three to four days, um, what kind of threat are we looking at at the possibility? I- is, is this something that, that you're concerned about? Mister Sina, I'll, I'll ask you what, what can the fusion centers be doing? What are they doing to mitigate that threat?
Transnational organized crime uh groups out there are a tremendous threat to our country. Um, you know fusion centers and the Haidas and our risk partners have worked for a long time to fight those threats, but every day it's, uh we see this increase in rhetoric and not only that, now we see, you know, violence uh south of our border. Um, they are not that far away to cause problems here. And our country is a location where they raise funds and we are the source of their income. But we don't know how they will react to whatever threat they perceive from anyone, whether it be Mexico or the United States, and what harm they may cause. I mean right now with fentanyl trafficking, and and I think we've discussed this uh uh you know uh privately, is that you know I had over and still have over five hundred Hondurans that have been operating in our region at one point all selling dope in a square mile area in San Francisco. We have fought back on that thanks to the support of the city and county of San Francisco, the mayor's office, the district attorney, the police chief and the sheriff, as well as the United States attorney's office and our DAs from around the region, the sheriffs and other chiefs of police. Um, we are gonna be receiving an award for the HIDA program for our Sa- San Francisco Metro task force, cuz we have pushed back on that. The city is a much cleaner place, it's a much safer place. People are not dying in the numbers in droves that they were in that city before. Uh, but we cannot turn our backs on these groups because they s- continue to be a major threat. And when we talk about special events, those folks are there to sell fentanyl, to sell dangerous drugs, and to sell human beings. And there's no reason they can't turn to violence while they're there, depending on what the geopolitical environment is at the time.
Well, thank you for that. Uh, Chief Maven, thank you for being here. Um, from the local and state level, how important is it to have qualified INA personnel for
Thank you. It's absolutely important to have them work in the fusion center. Um, we can't just show up one day in the middle of a critical incident and uh start working together so we have to have them embedded in the fusion center uh real time for months in advance years in advance to establish those relationships. Uh they act as a critical bridge between other cities, between the IC community and local law enforcement to be able to push out intelligent products and uh safely secure the these events so it is critical.
Um let let's talk about drones, uh that was a previous discussion, um just looking at the rapid expansion, I know there's uh many many drone incursions that happened on the Southwest We saw one in El Paso uh recently or uh I think alleged that it was uh a drone activity. Um what what can we be doing, how do the fusion centers uh react, and what is the threat that we're worried about mitigating at the major events in the next year, Mister Sina?
For me it's it's uh A, you know, having state and local partners, not just with the authorities, but the tools and resources to prevent the threat. Without those, we're we're lost. The other piece of this is that the ability for drones to carry a payload, even if it's a small payload, can cause panic. If it's a white powder dropped, well, who knows what that is, stampede alone will injure people. Even worse if it's, you know, some type of, you know, poison that could harm people like fentanyl. You know, there are a lot of threats out there, but we need the resources, early detection, and that integration um like we see in Las Vegas where we have federal air marshal service personnel in the fusion center. We need the people in the center. That's the whole purpose of a fusion center is to bring people together. So without those federal, state, and local resources in the same place at the same time, looking for the same threats, we're gonna miss things.
Thank you. My time has expired. Chair now recognizes the gentleman from from Virginia, Mister Walkinshaw.
Thank you, Mister Chairman, for convening today's hearing and to our witnesses for joining us. I represent Fairfax County, a proud part of the national capital region, largest in the National Capital Region. As Mister Nelson knows, our region is designated as a high threat, high density area, which permits us, and I know this has been discussed by the ranking member and others, to receive urban area security initiative grant funding, which enhances our regional preparedness, strengthens public safety, helps fund and refund terrorist response training, camera networks, emergency alert systems, and coordination tools. all of the tools that keep our national capital region and our nation's capital safe. But as the threat levels remain very high for our region as we prepare for major events, America two fifty, the World Cup, the administration moved last year to slash forty million dollars in homeland security funding from our region, cutting preparedness grant funding by ninety percent. And I know there's been some conversations around the DHS funding situation and the shutdown at DHS right now, which we need to work together to resolve. But it's important to note that the administration has been shutting down elements of DHS throughout this term and this grant program is one of them. State and local entities in Virginia and across our region have served as reliable partners in emergency response efforts. We send law enforcement and first responders to help recovery efforts after the tragic and deadly collision near National Airport. I was just at an event with the families of those who lost their lives in that tragic collision. Fairfax County Police officers were here at the Capitol on January sixth, twenty twenty one, working to repel the insurrectionists. But these drastic cuts to grants would erode Fairfax County's, and I think other jurisdictions in our region, overall emergency preparedness and response capabilities. And national security, national special security events occur frequently in our region. It's not a rare thing. It's a weekly thing. Uh, it would also hinder our ability to conduct training and obtain new equipment, uh, that might no longer be able to be paid for by local funding and reimbursed. It's defunding the police. is what it is, when the administration cuts these grant programs that help to fund local law enforcement it jeopardizes safety of Americans in our region and all across the country and I think Virginians and all residents of our region deserve clear answers as to why the administration believes they don't need the resources to protect against terrorist threats and other incidents. I wanna ask Mister Nelson, in the past year, in your view has the threat level to our region, the national capital region, increased or decreased, the overall threat level?
Increased in also in regards to at the local and state level. So the federal threat has alwa always been high here. However, uh, we're seeing an increase in threats at the state and local level that is also increasing now which is making it even more complex.
Okay. And can you just speak specifically how these uh grant cuts, the cuts to these homeland security grants, UACI and others would hinder DC, Maryland, and Virginia state and local law enforcement from working collaboratively to respond to incidents. And you know there's a lot of conversation nationally right now about the need for federal law enforcement and local law enforcement to cooperate and partner. How do these cuts or would these cuts make that cooperation more difficult?
It would make it much more difficult. Following the the Paris attacks in twenty fifteen, I actually chaired the National Capital Region Complex Coordinated Attack Working Group, where we built systems, information sharing platforms, and resource management programs to address the complex threats in this region. Uh, those programs will likely erode and uh be um demobilized as a result of the decrease in funding.
And maybe specifically, how will would it or will it hinder our ability to prepare for America two fifty, fourth of july celebrations big upcoming events like that
in addition to breaking down the products such as the cctv program or other types of information sharing platforms it also uh there's other existing programs outside the grant program such as the information sharing uh platform that was run by dhs that has also been uh sunsetted that we had to pick up as a state and begin running for the nation um to try to ensure that that information flow still occurs
ok Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I yield back.
Gentleman yields back. I now recognize uh, gentleman from Tennessee, Mister Van Epps, for five minutes of questions.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for holding this hearing and to our witnesses for joining us, and thank you for your efforts to keep Americans safe. Like many Americans, I'm excited for the America two fifty celebrations and the World Cup matches. I also recognize the huge security concerns that these events bring with them, and our law enforcement's significant work to ensure the United States hosts the most successful and peaceful events in the world. Among them, DHS INA is specifically and uniquely equipped to manage threat response during national special security events. But the threats are always changing. Modern UAS and generative AI means nearly anyone anywhere can disrupt these events with serious consequences. And we must ensure that never happens. Sticking with the theme of inter-agency coordination and information sharing, Mr. Sina, what real-time intelligence sharing mechanisms are there to ensure all threats are reported accurately during these events? And I know you talked about the seven systems and some of the synchronization challenges but if you'd care to expound upon any of that.
No, definitely. At at the classified level we have the Homeland Security Data Network, HSDN, which uh fusion centers have uh within their operations to connect with DHS intel and and what's available within that platform. Uh, but on the FBI side you also have their own separate, um, high side systems as well, and, uh, JWICs and and military side technologies. Um, we also have the Homeland Security Information Network, which has a SharePoint site, uh, which is, you know, Microsoft-based technology, along with an Adobe Connect system, and those two systems don't actually talk to each other. Um, we also have within the, uh, our partners at the FBI, uh, within their CJIS division, They also manage the Leap Law Enforcement Portal Virtual Command Center, VCC. Um, we also have a number of uh partners at the state and local level that are using everything from Microsoft to Slack to uh Signal to communicate. Um, we also have uh local um emergency operations channels and various EOC type communication areas. Uh, and the problem we have with much of these technologies is that none of them connect to each other. Many of them have similar uh tools and resources, but ultimately because folks don't wanna pick a favorite and everyone has their own, it's hard for people to communicate. And that's why a lot of work's been done over the last four years to do that direct integration between uh Microsoft Teams and Esri because most of government has Microsoft and most of government has Esri technology. So uh that was what really helped us out tremendously on our human trafficking effort during Super Bowl. Uh but you know, ultimately we've gotta figure out bridges between technology, otherwise they fall into pockets. And as far as the reporting of threats, um, we have the National Threat Operations Center, the NTAC, which is a division in West Virginia. Uh, they handle about one point three to one point six million tips and leads per year. And I have to tell you that's overwhelming. Um, we also have, uh, various hotlines for human trafficking. So those go into those pots of h- of information. But the the ultimate issue we have is with all these multiple pots of tips and leads information they all aren't consolidated. And so we don't know what we're missing until bad things happen. And even during the Super Bowl, we there was a belief that we were missing some tips and leads from one source party. And one of our partners actually called in a tip to see if somebody would send us the tip and it never came in. And so those are the types of issues we have. Um. trying to make sure that there is a constant flow of communication. Fusion servers were designed to help facilitate that and to help move the data. But as, you know, technology has not progressed with the issues we have today, um, we have these silos of excellence that don't connect to anybody.
So bu- building building off of that, could you, and maybe this for Mister Martinez as well, but could you walk us through what the intelligent sharing process would look like, if there was an active threat at one of the World Cup events? And what are the the crucial communicating tools and the potential gaps there as well.
Absolutely. Um, a- and unfortunately, each of those systems I mentioned would be one of those things that analysts probably have to enter data into. But the real thing is people in the room talking to each other. So what we've done and and built in the past, in which every location will have, is is a regional uh collaboration, coordination and communication centers. There will be ops centers. Uh, but I can tell you that we had about six operations centers just during the Super Bowl. So I can only imagine that there'll be many more based on how spread out the FIFA operations are, um, to bring information together. But if there's a critical threat, it's gonna be, uh, communication between te- people in the room, and then the ability to bring people in most oftentimes in that Microsoft Teams environment to host a call very quickly, to say this is the threat. And that's what I've done in the past in my own center. If something escalates to a point where we've gotta get general information out, people are not always tied to their email. They're not always tied to uh even their text messages, but if you get the alert out and bring people together uh physically and virtually, brief them on the threat as quick as possible. The only problem comes in if the threat is classified, and then trying to get the classification down. That's where clearances become important for, especially our state and locals. And we have had that uh, you know, that effort to try to get people as many clearances as possible, to bring them into a room and tell them this is the threat. But not everyone has uh r remote communications at classified level. So there are urgencies that we have to get information out. And I could tell you years ago we had that same problem in San Francisco, and ultimately they breu built a room that we could hold three hundred people in, to get them briefed. That's a rarity. Not many cities, locations have a place that is reasonable to get to, and classified space to get briefed up on urgent threats. But ultimately, it's When there's a crisis, we communicate because we work together, we train together, we have tabletop exercises, and we plan out and get to know each other before the event, before the big game day. And then we work on these are the communication channels we will use, but we make sure that that that happens and everyone in my region has my cell phone number and I have theirs so we can talk to each other if all else fails.
Thank you. Thank you, sir. My time is expired, Mr. Chairman. I yield back.
Yeah, and I that was a great answer. That's why I let you go on, cuz it was very important to get on the record. I now recognize the gentleman uh from Puerto Rico, Mister Hernandez, for five minutes questions.
Thank you, Mister Chairman. This hearing is about security preparedness and what concerns me the most is that DHS has shown a consistent pattern of failing American citizens, the United States, the fifty states, the commonwealths and the territories in securing their reconstruction after natural disasters after major events. And in securing their citizens and their residents from their policies. Now, this is a direct failure of leadership and policy at the DHS level. We have in place what I have to call a stupid policy that requires the DHS secretary to approve any expense over one hundred thousand dollars. And that is delaying the reconstruction and the projects in Puerto Rico and in many states that will prepare us to better handle major events or major natural disasters. And I've received outreach from constituents, projects like the Hector Sola Coliseum in Caguas, or projects like the back-up generators from Fundacion Comunitaria that give power and water to over thirty-seven thousand residents in Puerto Rico, are stalled because of this stupid policy. And I am concerned that as we speak of major events like the World Cup, like the Olympics, we are not ready to meet the demands of these events if we have not been able to meet the lesser demands of previous events. So, Mister Nelson, it is my understanding that DHS owes Maryland nearly one billion dollars in disaster-related expenses, including for costs that the federal government approved years ago. Can you describe the types of projects currently stalled because of the delays?
Uh, yes sir. And then thanks for the question, cuz there there has been an extreme delay. And what this also is causing is not just for these projects to be completed, similar to as they are in Puerto Rico where we've had projects that are started, but we are uncertain if we'll be able to continue them because of the policy of the one hundred thousand dollars. But it's also the local um time that these employees are investing into trying to manage these proj projects. Those are a lot of the same employees that are dedicated to special event planning and doing other emergency management activities that are now bogged down with the administrative uh uh over just administrative burden of trying to manage this unpredictable nature.
And can you speak to how the timeline for this burstment has changed since this new policy was implemented?
Certainly well there I think it's fair to say that we don't know what the timeline is. There's consistent holds that are put for administrative review and there's no real certainty on when. uh the funds would be released so we're still trying to rectify uh you know twenty five and twenty four funds the future is really uncertain if we don't even know when those funds will be released for example we're on a deadline to accept awards by the end um of of twenty seventh of of of february however those funds haven't been released so we don't even know how can we accept them if there's an administrative hold uh it gives us a very tight window by which we can do anything if uh we're not even notified uh in time to to react.
So, if another major disaster were to strike tomorrow in Maryland, would your state be in a weaker position because of these funding delays?
Maryland will always lean in and take care of their people first. The governor is is committed to doing that. However, it it has greatly changed our posture and put more stress on our local governments and on our state budget, uh of of trying to always put public safety first and ensuring that um but other critical programs will likely have to sacrifice as a result
so by extension other states commonwealths and territories would also face due to these policies more strains more risks more adversity in accessing disaster funding and uh prevention capa capability capabilities
and and maryland also realizes that we are in a position where we often lend assistance to other states and territories in a time of need we'll be less positioned to do that because of decreasing capabilities and personnel. So it doesn't just impact Maryland, it impacts our ability to support other states and the regions, uh, because of our limited capability in in needing to, uh, maximize our our resources.
Thank you. Uh, Mr. Chairman, I yield back.
Gentleman yields back. And I recognize the gentlelady from South Carolina, Miss Biggs, for five minutes questions.
Thank you, Mister Chairman, and thank you to our witnesses for being here today. This year, it's a special year for the United States between the America two hundred and fifty celebration and the FIFA World Cup. Our country will host over seventy major events across more than a dozen states. And each event will need varying levels of security with millions of Americans and foreign tourists and athletes traveling around the country. As we go into an eventful year, we must contend with a new potential avenue for threats. which is drones, which we've already talked about a little bit. The twenty twenty-six NDAA expanded the drone mitigation and the counter-UAS authorities given to state and local authorities. And I know we talked a little bit um with my friend from Alabama about the training and what's gonna be required and even with technology, but I'd like to hear a little bit more on how you
If I may start, Mrs. Biggs, the the area that we're currently in, the national capital region, has the most airspace of anywhere in the country. So the ability for us to deal with um countering UAS is extremely important. Um however, I would just say that in addition to the capabilities, which has been uh it's been great in mover one, however we need to ensure that the plans and procedures are there and the the network of which we're in sharing information about the threats and uh and and our uh policies. Uh during the Army Navy game in Baltimore just this past December, there were several occasions where different federal agencies were mitigating drones, and uh we're not properly communicating that with our state and local partners to know what other risks may be at at play so I would just again highlight the importance of good planning and coordination between all levels in addition to training and capabilities.
And I'll echo that, uh we have a wonderful working relationship with our federal partners in Kansas City, and so one uh aspect is to detect identify, mitigate, but we also have to have boots on the ground to go to uh to interdict the operators. And so we're working to train together so that we're ready and prepared for World Cup.
For the last few years, um across the world people have been expanding drone capabilities to implement attacks. And at the same time, we've been fighting to get those resources at the state and local level. Now that we finally have the authorities to implement, now it's getting the training and technology in place. And the problem is is that we have to defend large parameters, large areas that need coverage, not just the the game day facility, but the practice fields, the fan fest areas, the official ones and the unofficial ones. And how do we cover all those places with mitigation technology? It's very difficult because we're way behind. I I feel that, you know, if we had been having this conversation two years ago, we'd be in better shape. But today as we're approaching these games, we're nowhere near the capability we need. But we continue to have to press forward with the technology and the training and getting it out to the largest group of people possible from the law enforcement side. So we can cover all those simultaneous events that you were talking about that are spread across a huge geographical area. It's something that we have not dealt with in a long time to cover this much area in such a very short period of time with limited resources.
If there's one thing that you could ask Congress to
That prioritization of funding to train the personnel and get them to that training site. We need that immediately.
And the release of the the FIFA funding would be critical for our staffing and our mutual aid partners to come in and assist cuz we just don't have enough officers within my own department to cover down on all the threats. But we're gonna be relying on those mutual aid partners and connections.
And yes to to both their comments in addition to the the personnel that are working on these plans and coordination are the same limited personnel that are doing the other special event planning um and that are also many of their salaries are contingent on the funds that have not been released. So we are at a pivotal time where we may not just lose that capability, but the uh the block from Jenga is about to cause the whole thing to come down.
Well, thank you so much for the work that you do. And, Mr. Chairman, I yield back.
Uh, Mister Martinez, it looked like you about to say something. Did you wanna just say anything yet or
No, I just would like to echo what the uh the other uh witnesses uh stated. You know, the release of the funds uh that have already been approved is absolutely critical.
Thank you. Channel eighty yields back, and I recognize a gentleman from Colorado, Mister Evans, for five minutes.
Thank you, Chairman, and of course, uh, ranking member for this important hearing. And I want to thank the witnesses uh for being here today, for all of your ongoing work and everything that you do to keep our nation and our community safe. Uh, we're unfortunately all aware right now that we're in a partial government shutdown because my Democrat colleagues wanna hold the federal government hostage, uh, and, uh, hold that funding hostage for vital national security and law enforcement agencies. Uh, and just in case we need a reminder, ICE has already been funded under provisions we secured last year in the working families tax cut. By refusing to pass the DHS funding bill, ICE isn't being defunded. What is being defunded is FEMA and TSA and the Coast Guard and FLETSI, Federal Police Academy, and multiple other uh safety measures that are absolutely necessary ahead of massive events like the World Cup. Um, in my home state of Colorado, let's talk about FEMA. There have been historically low uh amounts of snowfall this winter, which sets us up for a very dry season, accompanied by very high wildfire risk. FEMA's support is absolutely vital to the safety of my communi- uh of my constituents, even before a wildfire begins. And I know this because I served in the US Army and the Colorado Army National Guard for twelve years. I was a Black Hawk helicopter pilot. I've flown on, dropped water on, and commanded National Guard sol- soldiers assigned to fighting uh type one, so national priority incidents in the state of Colorado. And to prepare for that, we would always do, typically in April, a um a a a pre-operation planning conference just to make sure everybody is on the same page, multiple different agencies, you know fifteen twenty agencies, federal, state and local are on the same page to support and strengthen that collaboration in preparation for the wildfire season ahead. And without adequate funding for DHS, for agencies like FEMA, this inter-agency coordination is jeopardized and more communities, more lives are at risk to say nothing of the environmental damage that happens can't respond to things like wildfires. Uh, in addition to being in the National Guard, uh, Mister Maben, my first question will be to you. Um, I was also a local cop for ten years, city of Arvada, first wing uh, ring suburb, just to the northwest of Denver, which is another major cities, um, uh, agency. Uh, and so I wanted to ask you about from your perspective, working for a major cities but local government agency, um, what lapses in funding are you seeing as a host city for um for the world cup um and what information what resources and capabilities do you see potentially lacking to close any information sharing or other planning gaps as you prepare to be a host city
as far as information sharing we're seeing you know um the regional kansas city uh fusion center is our major intelligence sharing hub and we haven't seen any lapses uh with regard to that the information is flowing we're sharing with
Thank you. So again, and so i kinda know how to read between the lines so when you say chip in and help each other that makes it sound like there's probably some band-aids that are being applied and obviously we're in an open forum here we don't wanna forecast any um uh mission critical shortfalls uh people would be surprised to know how many cops i often didn't have when i was trying to keep a city of a hundred and twenty five thousand people um peaceable and getting along um so i appreciate you commenting about chipping in and helping each other and the implications that go along with that. I'm also glad to hear you um talk about fusion centers. My next question will be to uh to Mister Sina. Um again I've mentioned uh twelve years in the National Guard, Black Hawk helicopter pilot, um so rotary wing, low level aviation operations, uh things like drones, counter drone technology, super important to me uh both as a a rotary wing aviator, also a police officer, and everything that happens typically between zero and three thousand feet um AGL. So here in my remaining about thirty seconds here, can you just comment on what is needed in this information sharing space to be able to effectively counter the emerging uh UAS threat?
Uh the detection equipment, the personnel in place, the uh the threat liaison officers to get the information out there on suspicious activity reporting, we need tips and leads. That Central California Intelligence Center uh threat to the Super Bowl that we received regarding drones, it was a it's tips and leads. It's that's the bottom line. So we need people that can do the outreach. We need people that can do the training. And we also have field intelligence team members that are out there on the ground looking for those threats and working with teams to mitigate them as quickly as possible without the funding without the resources those teams aren't there, those analysts aren't there, those tips and lead processes are not there.
And I think as we've seen this is a game-changing threat that we need to be able to counter Mr. Chairman yield back.
Gentlemen yields back and I recognize the gentlemen from Missouri, Mister Alfred, for five minutes questions.
Well, thank you, Chairman Garbarito, for allowing me to wave onto this important hearing today. Kansas City is proud to serve, as you all know, as one of the host cities of the World Cup and Missouri's fourth congressional district. Across the Kansas City region, local, state and federal partners have been working diligently to prepare for the influx of visitors and the complex security environment that comes with an event like this. That's why today's hearing is so important. Strong, timely intelligent sharing between federal, state and local, and tribal territories and private sector partners is essential for preventing threats, managing crowds, and ensuring public safety. When that information flow works well, it enhances situational awareness and allows our local law enforcement to act quickly and confidently. And I'm particularly interested in ensuring that host cities like Kansas City are receiving the support, intelligence, and resources they need to execute security missions effectively. Deputy Chief Maven, good to see you here in the swamp.
Uh, thank you.
Yeah. Um, thank you for appearing bef- for this uh committee today. The funding is not coming through from the federal government due to the the hold-up. Uh. What does that mean to Kansas City? Because the Kansas City budget is in trouble as it is, and in fact Chief Stacey Graves, who's done a wonderful job of uh managing the great Kansas City, Missouri Police Department, is now having to cut costs severely to ensure just basic services. Uh, how is this hold up in funding affecting our plans to keep Americans safe in Kansas City this summer?
We began planning, uh, full-time planning for this probably two years ago. Uh, we've taken into account multiple different contingencies. Um, we have planning at the stadium, at the different hotel venues, at the Fan Fest, um, equipment, intelligence, and just operationally. And as we have those plans in place, if we do not have people to execute those plans, then those plans are ineffective. And so right now we're in a critical stage where we need those funds committed and released so that our mutual aid partners have assurances and they can come in and assist us with just boots on the ground for those plans.
For those who don't know, Kansas City is in the heart of America, heart of Missouri, heart of America. It sits at the uh intersection of I-forty-nine and I-seventy. which before now was already a hub for human trafficking. I know that is a huge concern for your department and those uh also dealing with the safety. Talk about that.
Yeah, we are aware that on major sporting events it's also always a concern of human trafficking. And so we're trying to get that message out to our local partners. Uh, we're working with hotels and the airport to recognize signs of human trafficking. Uh, we've trained our officers to recognize chimes uh signs and to be able to
And of course, the border is shut down a lot better than it was under President Biden, but fentanyl, methamphetamine, cocaine are still big issues in the Kansas City region.
Yes, as they as they are as they are with another with other large cities. And so we work closely with our federal partners on task forces to combat drug trafficking organizations, human trafficking, and other violent criminal organizations.
Well, Chief May- uh, Deputy Chief, thank you again for being here and to all of our partners in Kansas City, thank you as well. It's gonna be a fabulous turnout. Uh, we're expecting some six hundred thousand people to converge on Kansas City for this to show off Kansas City once again. Uh, I will say, uh, to the Democrats out there listening now, ice through the one big beautiful bill. So that fight is not a good fight for you to take up right now. What you are putting in jeopardy is the safety of American citizens that rely on FEMA, that rely on the Coast Guard, that rely on the Secret Service, that rely on cyber security, uh, to keep us safe in America. It is time to end the partial shutdown led by the Democrats. And with that, I yield back.
Gentleman yields back and I wanna uh thank the witnesses all for for traveling here today. Um, one thing clear, we gotta get you all the money. Uh, so that's our, that's our job. Uh, so thank you all again for being here and I wanna I have additional questions that I will be submitting in writing and the members uh, the committee may have some additional questions for you. And we would ask that you all uh respond to these in writing. Uh, pursuant to committee rule seventy, uh, the hearing record will be held open for ten days. That objection, this committee stands adjourned.
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