Summary
The committee advanced 23 export-control and technology bills, including HR 8202 extending the statute of limitations to ten years favorably to the House.
No outside witnesses testified, with bill sponsors instead describing proposals to strengthen BIS enforcement, licensing, and semiconductor controls during the markup debate.
Ted Lieu warned US munitions would run out in a prolonged China conflict, while Darrell Issa rejected his unconstitutional-war characterization.
Gregory Meeks accused the Trump administration of gutting BIS enforcement, while Brian Mast praised its crackdown on China chip smuggling.
All approved bills now head to the House floor, where export-control enforcement funding and China technology restrictions face further negotiation.
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Quorum being present, committee on foreign affairs will come to order. I would ask everybody to rise, join me in reciting the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. You wanna help with it once it's done? The guy did that.
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Committing his meeting today for consideration of twenty three measures. The chair announces that any requests for recorded votes may be rolled and may recess the committee at any point without objection. So ordered. Pursuant to house rules, I request that members have the opportunity to submit views for any committee report that may be produced on any of today's measures. Without objection, so ordered.
Thank you. And this is called.
Pursuant to notice, I now call up H R eight two zero two to amend the Export Control Reform Act of two thousand and eighteen provide for a ten year statute of limitations for export control violations the bill was circulated in advance and the
H R eight two zero two, to amend the Export Control Reform Act of two thousand eighteen to provide for a ten year statute of limitations for export control violations.
Without objection, the first reading is dispensed with and the bill is considered read and open to amendment at any point. And I recognize myself for a couple of minutes. Export control cases can take years to detect, investigate and prosecute. and export control violators are counting on the clock running out before we can catch them. We've seen that case again and again. Currently, export control violations have a five year statute of limitations, but in the words of Assistant Secretary of Commerce, David Peters, we need to extend it for ten for ten years. Congress has already recognized this problem, just not for BIS. For example, IEPA already has a ten year long statute of limitations. So while the Treasury has ten years to pursue sanctions
I wanna offer a few opening remarks. Uh, I appreciate the tempo of markups and many of the bills before us today to address generally critical issues. But I also just have to address that the American people will notice what isn't here. They wake up every morning to news about Trump's war with Iran, higher oil prices, the reality that we don't know why the president launched this disastrous war of choice, or what the plan is to end it. They are watching to see whether this Congress serves as a check on executive power, as the Constitution requires, or serves We've had this debate on the floor because I have forced it there. But it should be happening with the administration in this committee. A committee serious about its responsibilities would have Secretaries Rubio and Hegsath or Mister Kushner or Mister Witkoff at the witness table. We also be marking up legislation addressing the president's decision to waive restrictions on Russia and Iranian oil sales, a decision that is directly fueling the war On today's mark-up, the answer to why we are here is straightforward. The Trump administration has systematically undermined our export control regime, a regime that exists to protect American national security. The president's use of export controls, a national security tool, as tariff bargaining chips against China has already backfired with China retaliating with rare earth restrictions. The Commerce Department's Bureau of In of Industry and Security, BIS, announced new tech expert controls on China last September, only to suspend them a month later. Then in December, the Trump administration reversed Biden administration's controls on selling H two hundred chips to China. Since then, the administration has approved multiple licenses for such sales, doing direct damage to the United States' national security and our ability to lead in the AI race. The record is unambiguous. This administration has weaponized suspended and reversed export controls with nothing to show for it strategically the very fact we are holding this mark up is in admission that the trump administration has completely dropped the ball on export controls my colleagues may not say it but the bills we are marking up do bis is in disarray career experts have been pushed out or have left leaving critical vacancies licenses are delayed for months without any justification or communication to US exporters. BIS has stopped operating technical advisory committees and no longer conducts outreach to educate industry to bolster compliance. This represents direct damage to American competitiveness and enforcement capacity. I would note that stakeholders across industry have raised significant concerns about several bills before us today, concerns that a proper hearing process would have surfaced in address. The Under Secretary of BIS should have testified before this committee, so that we could hear directly from him to inform our legislation. We were supposed to have a hearing on China with Assistant Secretary of State, Michael de Sombre, next week, but that hearing was cancelled a second time in as many months. This is not the way to conduct oversight, nor is it a way to legislate. And finally, on H R eighty-two O two, I support this measure, which amends the export control of form of twenty eighteen to establish a ten year statue of limitations for civil and criminal export control violations. As we saw in the recent Supermicro case, rampant smuggling is a real problem, and it could take years to detect, investigate, expose, and prosecute export controls. Therefore, extending the statue of limitations is necessary for more robust robust enforcement of our export controls and I yield back the balance of my time.
Great. Thank you, Mister Chairman, today I am speaking in support of my bill, H R eighty two O two, to amend the Export Control Reform Act of twenty eighteen, to provide for a ten year statute of limitations for export control violations. As bad actors developed increasingly,
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sophisticated tactics to evade US export controls, it's critical that our enforcement tools keep pace. Today, these violations often involve complex networks, shell companies, and long-running schemes that can take years to fully uncover. But under current law, investigators are working against a five-year clock that simply isn't long enough. In twenty twenty-four, Congress passed legislation to increase the statute of limitations for IEPA-based sanctions, violating However, the Export Control Reform Act was left out of that legislation, creating an inconsistency that my bill would fix. With bipartisan support, updates to the law reflect today's realities by extending the statute of limitations from five to ten years, for both civil enforcement actions and criminal indictments, giving law enforcement the time they need to investigate thoroughly and hold bad actors accountable. And importantly, as the chairman just noted, This is not just our view from Congress in a bipartisan fashion. A few months ago, the Assistant Secretary of Commerce for Export Enforcement from the Trump administration came before Congress and made clear that the current five-year window is insufficient for these complex investigations. And he called on us to extend it to ten years. It's a practical, bipartisan, common sense step to strengthen enforcement, close a clear gap in the law, and better protect American national security. So I would encourage all of us to do so.
Any further discussion? Representative Castro.
Uh, thank you. I'm proud to join my colleague, Representative McKenzie, in introducing this bipartisan legislation to extend the statute of limitations on export controls export control violations from five to ten years. Our export control laws are some of the most important tools we have to keep sensitive American technology out of the hands of our adversaries. When those controls are violated, when bad actors route US technology through shell companies, front organizations, and third country intermediaries to circumvent the law, we need to be able to hold them accountable. The problem is that under current law, we only have five years to do that. And five years is simply not enough time in many of these cases. The the schemes that adversaries use to evade our export controls have grown dramatically more sophisticated, over the years. So we're not talking about straightforward violations that investigators can uncover, in a matter of months. We're about layered networks, falsified end-user certificates, and transactions designed from the beginning to be difficult to trace. By the time investigators have assembled the full picture of what happened the clock has often already run out. And that's not acceptable when the technology at stake could end up in Chinese military programs, in Iranian weapon systems, or in the hands of other adversaries who want to use it against us. This bill makes a simple targeted fix. It extends the statute of limitations for export control violations from five years to ten.
Any other members seek recognition? Seeing none. Being no further discussion of the bill, the committee will move to consideration of amendments. Does any member wish to offer an amendment? There being no further amendments, I move that the committee report H R eight two zero two, to the house with a favorable recommendation. All those in favor, signify by saying aye.
Aye.
Aye. All those opposed, signify by saying no. In the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it, and the motion is agreed to. Do you want a roll call vote? A roll call vote has been requested. Has been voluntold. Pursuant to the chair's previous announcement, this vote will be postponed. Pursuant to notice, I now call up H R seven nine six two. The Export-Dispute-Resolution Act, the bill was circulated in advance and the clerk shall designate the bill.
H R seven nine six two. to amend the Export Control Reform Act of two thousand eighteen, relating to the review of the inter-agency dispute resolution process.
Without objection, the first reading is dispensed with and the bill is considered read and open to amendment at any point. I will recognize myself for a few minutes on the bill. This bill addresses how arm sales, how sales of critical US technology to arms embargoed countries will be treated by the US government. If we're not going to sell weapons to a country, we should think very seriously. about selling them a dual-use import for war. Currently, when agencies disagree over a license for the sale of technology to an arms-embargoed country, the Commerce Department can unilaterally resolve the dispute. Mister McCormick's bill mandates that deadlocked license decisions to countries under US arms embargo are put to a vote by the operating committee, requiring departments of commerce, departments of energy, department of state,
Yeah, I support this measure by Representative McCormick, who's previously passed the committee and the house. It codifies certain procedures for dispute resolutions at BIS, so that the departments of commerce, state, defense and energy
Is there any further discussion? There being no further discussion of the bill, the committee will move to consideration of amendments. Does any member wish to offer an amendment? There being no further amendments, I move that the committee report H R seven nine six two to the house with a favorable recommendation all those in favor signify by saying aye aye all
Aye.
those opposed signify by saying no in the opinion of the chair.
Request a roll call vote.
Mister Self has requested a roll call vote. Thank you, Mister Self. A roll call vote has been requested pursuant to the chair's previous announcement. This vote will be postponed. Pursuant to notice, and I'll call up HR eight one six nine, the Export Control Enforcement and Enhancement Act. The bill was circulated in advance and the clerk shall designate the bill.
H R eight one six nine, to amend the Export Control Reform Act of two thousand eighteen to provide for expedited consideration of proposals, for additions to, removals from, or other modifications, with respect to entities on the entity list, and for other purposes.
Without objection, the first reading is dispensed with and the bill is considered read and open to amendment at any point. And without obj- without objection, the MAST amendment, in the nature of a substitute, circulated in advance to members, shall be considered as read and will be treated as the original text for purposes of the amendment. And I will now recognize This bill from Representative Wagner is both common sense and obvious for us to consider today, as it would remove unnecessary barriers against considering entity list additions. Today, when an inter-agency proposes additions to the entity list, the Commerce Department can effectively veto the idea by not bringing the addition up for a vote. The bill solves that by adding a new thirty-day deadline for a vote to ensure that any entity list additions
I support this measure by Rep. Anne Wagner, as I did last Congress. It codifies in statute the necessary procedures to allow all four agencies affiliated with BIS to offer proposals for additions to the BIS entity list. We need
Do any other members seek recognition? Seeing none. The committee will move to consideration of amendments. Does any member wish to offer an amendment? There being no further amendments, I move that the committee report H R eight one six nine as amended to the house with a favorable recommendation. All those in favor,
Aye.
Aye.
All those opposed, signify by saying no. In the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it and the motion is agreed to.
Mister Chairman, I ask for a roll call vote.
A roll call vote has been requested. Pursuant to the chair's previous announcement, this vote will be postponed. Thank you. Pursuant to notice, I now call up H R four. H R four five zero five. The Export Controls Enforcement Act. The bill was circulated in advance and the clerk shall designate the bill.
H R four five zero five. To strengthen enforcement of United States export controls by increasing the number of export control officers of the Bureau of Industry and Security, of the Department of Commerce, who are stationed in foreign regions.
Without objection, the first reading is dispensed with and the bill is considered read and open to amendment at any point and without objection the Kamlager-Dove amendment, in the nature of a substitute, circulated to members in advance, shall be considered as read and will be treated as original text for purposes of the amendment. Recognize myself for a couple of moments.
Thank you.
This committee has often heard about how ill-equipped BIS is to fully enforce US export controls. It is almost laughable that BIS today has only eleven officers stationed worldwide tasking with uh tasked with enforcing all of our export controls. Southeast Asia is well known as a hub of smuggling US technology, especially AI chips to China. only has one export control officer. We've already seen some massive smuggling cases in the region, but I bet we'd uncover more if we had more export control officers stationed there. Representative Kamlager's dub, Bill addresses this issue by requiring BIS to have at least thirty export control officers. This bill benefits from bipartisan support, including from Representative Saizenga, Representative Shriv, who just recently uh has joined a new committee, and I urge all my colleagues to support this measure. Ranking Member Meeks.
Yeah, I support this measure, authori- authored by Representative Kamala Gurdwara, and I am a proud co-sponsor of this bill. Our export controls are only useful if we back them up with the proper enforcement. The Bureau of Industry and Security reviews nearly fifty thousand licenses a year, and in twenty twenty four it approved nearly five hundred billion dollars of export. Because countries like Russia and China are deliberately trying to evade our controls, it's critical that we have the ability to ensure that controlled us technology that is exported abroad goes only where it is supposed to for only approved uses. One of the main ways bis does that is through in-use checks by export control offices stationed abroad. Given the large quantity of controlled technology we must track, you'd think we'd have dozens of these agents traveling around the world doing regular in-use checks. In reality, bis only has only eleven such officers deployed abroad. This is insufficient, and a looming disaster given the increasing frequency and scope with which we now use export controls. This bill would increase the number of these officers abroad to thirty, making it much easier for them to cover the globe and bolster enforcement of our controls. This is an overdue and common sense measure. I urge all my colleagues to support it and I yield back.
Is there any further discussion? Representative Self.
Uh, Mister Chairman, there's there is no doubt that this is on the front lines of our hybrid uh war with China. Uh, however, this uh, we have been told uh in a hearing that the administration intends to increase this budget by a hundred million plus dollars. Uh, I recognize that we are thirty-nine trillion dollars in debt, and there is no offset to this bill. I'm gonna support this bill in committee, uh, and ask for a roll call vote, uh i believe that this is one of the areas that i may be unable to support on the floor because we cannot continue to spend money without finding an offset in a less noble program and i say again this is a noble program that i want to support uh but uh i i will reserve my vote on the floor thank you sir i yield back
thank you for voicing your founded concerns i appreciate it uh is there any further discussion representative kumlager dove
Thank you, Mister Chair and ranking member, for including my bill on mark-up today. For an agency that is charged with carrying out some of our most pressing national security priorities, BIS is not fully equipped to enforce the regulations it administers. To reiterate what has been said, uh, already, there are only eleven law enforcement agents who are assigned to conduct end-use checks abroad and identify, any diversion of controlled technologies. With the increase in appropriations that Congress approved for BIS in fiscal year twenty-six it is imperative that the administration use its new funding to boost the number of Export Control officers. My bill, the Export Controls Enforcement Act, would formally codify the Export Control Officer program and require BIS to hire at least thirty ECOs to be stationed overseas. This would ensure that BIS is better able to enforce its controls and safeguard our national security. I have to add that export control officers are only as effective as the support infrastructure around them their ability to regularly communicate with industry, to easily travel to conduct end-use checks, and to participate in the necessary training programs at FLET C, at FLET C. Yet we've heard that dysfunctionally leadership at BIS has led to challenges in executing all of this. I hope the administration sees this bipartisan legislation as a sign of support for the Export Control officers and of our expectation that the ECO program be managed effectively and efficiently. I'd like to thank Chair Huizinga, Ranking Member Meeks, and Representative Shree for co-leading this bill with me, and I urge all of my colleagues to support this important legislation here in committee, and hopefully find a way to support it on the floor. And with that, I yield back.
Is there any further discussion? Seeing none, the committee will move to consideration of amendments. Does any member wish to offer an amendment? There being no further amendments, I move that the committee report H R four five zero five as amended to the house, with a favorable recommendation. All those in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye.
Aye.
All those opposed, aye.
Chairman, I ask for a roll call vote.
A roll call vote has been requested. Pursuant to the chair's previous announcement, this vote will be postponed. Pursuant to notice, I now call up H R seven zero zero three, the BIS strength act. The bill was circulated in advance and the clerk shall designate the bill.
H R seven zero zero three, to authorize the Under Secretary
Without objection, the first reading is dispensed with and the bill is considered read and open to amendment at any point. Does any member seek recognition?
Thank you.
Recognize myself. Our export controls are only as strong as the people that craft the policy. Especially when it comes to emerging technologies like AI. Export controls on emerging technologies like AI, quantum, biotech require deep subject matter expertise to ensure we are not leaving loopholes for the Chinese Communist Party to exploit. It's why we've done a great deal of work on this committee, behind closed doors, classified briefings, uh, classified round tables, round tables in general, with so many members of industry to to learn about what they eat, sleep and breathe every single day. This act creates a special hiring authority to bring in up to twenty-five experts from outside the civil service for up to
Yes, I support this measure by Rep. Shriv, which gives hiring authority to BIS to hire up to twenty-five highly qualified experts.
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We all agree that BIS needs expertise. That said, I think it's quite ironic that we are giving BIS special authority to hire fresh expo- experts, when the trumpet BIS is still shredding expertise due to its politicization of export controls. BIS is one of the highest level of vacancies in the federal government. This is because agency leadership has pushed out or alienated subject matter experts in key countries and technologies raising alarm bells from the industry and national security experts. Yet, this committee has not had any oversight hearings or briefings on this topic with BIS. So, while I think Rep Shriv's bill is critical for the long-term health of BIS, this committee must do more to solve the underlying problems generating a crisis of expertise at BIS uh BIS today, which is this administration's own making. And I yield back.
Any further Any further discussion of the bill? Seeing none, the committee will move to consideration.
Chairman.
Oh. Representative Self, you seek recognition.
Um, yeah, Mister Chairman, in the analysis of this bill, uh the positions under uh this office have grown from four hundred and three to five hundred and eighty-five between thirteen and twenty-four. So I I will support this measure and ask for a roll call vote. But uh, we need to also be working with BIS to, for their analysis on their positions. Are they adding administration when we need actual front-line workers? Um, and I yield back.
It's a very good point you bring up, Representative Self, and uh, having had conversations with uh, Mister Kessler and others, uh, I know you wanna hear from them, but I would assure you. Uh, in those conversations, uh, which we've had in SCIF and other places, this has been of discussion. I know you've been to some of them. Um, but I'll make sure that you get more. Uh, any further discussion? Seeing none, committee will move to consideration of amendments. Does any member wish to offer an amendment? There being no further amendments, I move that the committee report H R seven zero zero three to the house with a favorable recommendation all those in favor signify by saying aye, aye, all those opposed signify by saying no. The opinion of the chair, the ayes have it, and the motion is agreed to.
Mister Chairman, I ask for a roll call vote.
A roll call vote has been requested pursuant to the Pursuant to notice, I now call up HR five eight five three to amend the Export Control Reform Act of two thousand and eighteen to increase the civil penalties that may be imposed under such act the bill was circulated in advance, and the clerk shall designate the bill.
HR five eight five three to amend the Export Contr- Control Reform Act of two thousand eighteen to increase the civil penalties that may be imposed under such act.
Without objection, the first reading is dispensed with and the bill is considered read and open to amendment at any point. Does the author seek recognition? Representative Self.
Uh, thank you, Mister Chairman. I rise in support of my bill, HR fifty eight fifty three, which would amend the Export Control Reform Act of twenty eighteen, to increase civil penalties for violations of export control rules. Far too often we have seen individuals and companies treat export controls as the cost of doing business. Currently, ECRA allows for civil penalties of twice the value of the transaction, or three hundred thousand dollars per transaction. While these monetary amplifiers may work when dealing with transaction of dollars as the primary violation, it makes less sense for export controls involving America's most sensitive technologies. These penalties are negligible relative to the value of these illicit transactions. Take for example, if an individual illegally sold a nuclear centrifuge to Iran, we can all agree that the harm to U S national security is significantly higher than the price tag of the nuclear centrifuge. Furthermore, ECRA's civil penalty ceiling has not been updated since the statute's enactment in twenty eighteen, eight years ago. The scale and sophistication of PRC export control evasion has grown dramatically since that date. Increasing the statutory maximums for civil penalties must better reflect the true national security stakes of for control violations and help deter violators. That is why my bill raises the bar for deterrence of these transactions. Specifically, this act would increase the civil penalty from two times the basis of the transaction to four times the basis of the transaction. May not sound like a lot, but it would also increase the base civil penalty from three hundred thousand to one point two million. These penalty increases would compound the risk for professional smugglers who are attempting to
Is there any further discussion? Ranking number meeks.
I support this measure. We were all shocked to see the scale and sophistication of the evasion
Ranking member yields back. recognize myself. Earlier this year, the Assistant Secretary of Commerce for Export Enforcement, David Peters, came before this committee to talk about how the Trump administration is enforcing US export controls. His message was that deterrence is not strong enough against violators of our laws. Today, the statutory maximum civil penalty for violations of US export controls is only twice the value of the product. That's insulting. It's insultingly low. It isn't a deter- it's not preventing these crimes from taking place. Just earlier this year, the Trump administration unveiled perhaps the biggest export violations in US history. The founder of Supermicro worked to smuggle our advanced AI chips to China, directly, effectively turning a major corporation into a Chinese smuggling shell. These smugglers simply weren't deterred by the existing penalties. This bill will help the Trump administration's crackdown on these export control violations. I would r- it would raise the cost for violating controls by increasing the maximum civil penalty from two to four times the value of the transaction, forcing violators to feel a significant punishment. I want to thank Representative Self for his work on this bill, and I urge my colleagues to vote in favor. Is there any further discussion? There being no further discussion, we'll move to consideration of amendments. Does any member wish to offer an amendment? There being no further amendments, I move that the committee report H R five eight five three to the house with a favorable recommendation all those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. All those opposed signify by saying no. In the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it and the motion is agreed to.
Chairman, I ask for a roll call vote.
A roll call vote has been requested. Pursuant to the chair's previous announcement, this vote will be postponed. Thank you. Pursuant to notice, I now call up H R eight two eight eight, the strengthening export control.
H R eight two eight eight. To amend the Export Control Reform Act of two thousand eighteen, to provide assistance for compliance with that act.
Without objection, the first reading is dispensed with and the bill is considered read and open to amendment at any point and I will recognize myself for a statement. Some US export controls are remarkably complicated, especially those crafted during the Biden administration. This can lead to I support this. Thank you.
and I am proud to be a co-sponsor. There are thousands of small and medium sized American enterprises that export their world class products abroad and want to do so in compliance with US law. But they often do not have the budgets to hire large compliance teams of expert control of c- expert control experts. This is why in the Expert Control and Reform Act of twenty eighteen, Congress specifically directed BIS to report on its to provide exporters with compliance assistance, including specific actions to assist small and medium-sized businesses. It's also called on BIS to keep the public appropriately apprised of changes in policy regulations and procedures. BIS generally does this by hosting seminars, trainings, outreach events, and conferences for American businesses. Yet the Trump administration has essentially ended such engagement. Based on the information on its own web site, BIS has not organized any trainings or seminars since the beginning of twenty twenty five. And as of this month, BIS has not scheduled a date for its annual update conference. BIS is only making its enforcement job harder when it avoids engaging industry to boost compliance. Because when American companies don't understand the rules, they're more likely to ship things to places and people they shouldn't. The bill aims to address this challenge by calling for
Do any other members seek recognition? Representative Self.
Yeah, I I will vote against this, uh, as the ranking member just indicated, the last conference was in March of twenty twenty five. So we are basically one year from that. Uh, this looks to me like congressional overreach, I think a letter from the chairman and the ranking member might accomplish this without having to put a law in place, and I yield back.
Representative yields back. Do any other members seek recognition? Representative Alma.
Thank you very much, Mister Chairman, and thank you, Ranking Member. I'm proud to speak in support of my bill, the Strengthening Export Controls Compliance Act. As our export controls grow more complex, businesses in my home state of Rhode Island and those across the country are struggling to keep up. Not because they don't want to comply, uh because the rules are harder to navigate. In the past, the Bureau of Industry and Security provided real support, including conferences, trainings, seminars, clear guidance, and advisory opinions. That outreach has fallen off under the Trump administration, leaving businesses without the tools they need to follow the rules, and comply with our ever-changing uh export uh r- rules. This hits small and medium-sized business the hardest. They don't have large compliance teams, or the resources to hire expensive counsel. And here's the bottom line, it's far more to help businesses comply on the front-end than to punish them on the back-end for getting it wrong. So this bipartisan bill, the strengthening Export Controls Compliance Act, would solve this problem. It requires BIS to engage with industry through annual conferences, conduct outreach w- when new rules are issued, and regularly report to Congress on how it's helping businesses navigate these requirements. Better guidance means better compliance. Better compliance strengthens our national security and lets BIS focus its its enforcement
Any further discussion? Seeing no further discussion,
Okay.
uh we'll move to consideration of amendments. Does any member wish to offer an amendment? There being no further amendments, I move that the committee report H R eight two t eight two eight eight to the house with a favorable recommendation all those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. All those opposed signify by saying no. Pending to the chair, the ayes have it, and the motion is agreed to.
Request. Mr. Chairman, I request recording.
A roll call vote has been requested pursuant to the chair's previous announcement.
Roll call roll call.
This vote will be postponed. Pursuant to notice, I now call up H R six three three one. The Adversaries Act. The bill was circulated in advance and the clerk shall designate the bill.
H R six three three one, to modify certain definitions under the Export Control Reform Act of two thousand eighteen. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States and Congress assembled. This act may be
Without objection, the first reading is dispensed with and the bill is considered read and open to amendment at any point. Without objection, the Miller Amendment, in the nature of a substitute, circulated to members in advance, shall be considered as read and will be treated as original text. for the purpose of the amendment. Any members seek recognition? Recognize myself? This bill will address one of the most egregious loopholes in US export controls today. Chinese military end users setting up subsidiaries in the US and gaining access to our technology. Huawei. Huawei is restricted from buying US technology for very good reason. But its subsidiary FutureWay, yes, you can't make that up, is greenlit to buy whatever technology it wants without US government review. FutureWay is even allowed to buy NVIDIA's Blackwell AI chips with no restrictions. It is legally treated the same as OpenAI, Google, Anthropic, or other great AI companies. Why? Because it is technically headquartered in the United States. All Huawei had to do is to get our to get our tech.
I support this measure and I wanna really thank uh Representative Miller and Chairman Mass uh for working with me on a bipartisan compromise on this bill. The Office of
Thank you. Representative yields back. Representative Miller.
Thank you, Mister Chairman, and thank you, Raking member, truly appreciate working on a compromise to move this forward for my bill, six three three one, or known as the adversaries act. The Export Control Reform Act applies to the export, re-export, and in-country transfer of products to foreign persons, not US-based firms owned by foreign persons. This means that Chinese companies can access US and allied technology by setting up subsidiaries within the United States. Companies with close ties to the Chinese Communist Party People's Liberation Army are exploiting this loophole to circumvent our export controls, and they've made that clear. For example, the Chinese chip-making and AI champion Huawei, as the chairman had just noted, has established a United States subsidiary, and he also noted as ridiculous as it is, known as FutureWay, that can acquire technology within the United States without being restricted from doing so by the Bureau Bureau of Industry and Security. This legislation will direct, under the secretary of BIS's known as BISS, Information and Communication Technology and Services, to conduct a thorough review of the effectiveness of our nation's export controls. Specifically, ICTS will be looking into what gaps in our export controls are being exploited by the US-based companies that are owed by foreign k- entities that we know are a real threat. Not only will this review shed light on this problem, but it will also identify other gaps that prevent us from blocking our adversaries from stealing our sensitive technology, and make recommendations for further congressional action. This is a common sense bill. Once again, I support the the support from the chairman and ranking member and this will truly help our national security. I urge its passage. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I yield back.
Thank you, Mr. Miller. They might as well call it FUA or something like that. Any other members seek recognition?
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Ranking member, Representative Liu.
uh I move to strike last word. Uh, thank you, Chairman Mast and ranking member Meeks for holding this mark-up on a pack export control bills designed uh to make sure america stays ahead of our adversaries and peer competitors such as china and russia what i really wanna talk about is an alarming new development with regards to our peer adversaries such as china and russia that has been exposed by this unconstitutional war in iran and it is this in any prolonged conflict that united states has with our competitors and adversaries such as China and Russia, the United States will lose. And that is because we will run out of munitions. In this unconstitutional war in Iran, based on new media reporting, the United States has already expended fifty percent of our THAAD interceptor missiles, fifty percent of our Patriot missiles, and thirty percent of our Tomahawk missiles. And this is only about a month and a half. And so China and Russia are looking at this, knowing they can just stockpile up on drones and ballistic missiles, and every few months the United States will run out of munitions to defend against that. But it exposes a second fatal flaw, which is this is completely not sustainable. A Patriot missile costs between four and a four and a half million dollars. An Iranian drone costs about thirty to fifty thousand dollars. It's like shooting Ferraris at Frisbees. We cannot match this asymmetrical warfare, and we can never make enough of these defensive munitions. So, Iran has estimates of over eighty thousand drones, over a hundred thousand drones. The United States has a Patriot missile inventory of over ten thousand Patriot missiles made over forty years. We're never gonna be able to produce enough defensive munitions against these drones. And the third fatal flaw that this has shown, this unconstitutional war, is that even against a second rate military, we can't stop damage to our military bases and operating locations. I previously served in an activity of the United States military. We have an amazing air force, and one reason is we gain air superiority every time very quickly. That's what we did in Iran. We had air superiority very quickly. We have it right now. And despite that, we could not stop. Iranian drones and missiles hitting over twenty operating locations, including approximately thirteen United States bases. This is a second rate military, and our defensive countermeasures could not stop these attacks. And so China and Russia is looking at this and they know, for example, let's just talk about Indo-Pacific. China knows in any war in the Indo-Pacific, our military bases will be destroyed. Flat out. And if they're not destroyed, immediately, will they first rate military they're gonna be dealing with, they'll be destroyed over time cuz again, we run out of defensive missiles. So we need a brand new strategy, a brand new national security strategy and defensive strategy in the Indo-Pacific, in other areas, and I urge the chairman to have a hearing on that. What has this Iran war exposed in terms of these three fatal flaws? And how does this apply to our peer adversaries such as Russia and China who are looking at this war right now and realizing again at any prolonged conflict the united states is going to lose i yield back
do any other members seek recognition
yes i do chairman
uh representative eissa
listening to my colleague i'm gonna break one of my normal rules and respond directly i'm terribly sorry that you don't believe in america or that you believe the war is lost or that you can i'll finish
i served on act of dean
OK. I'm, I'm going to finish my discussion without being interrupted again. I have never heard something that upset me as much as what you just said. You said we lose, we've exposed, this is unconstitutional. First of all, the president's actions are fully constitutional. He's not the first, the second. He is the forty, I guess technically forty-third or forty-fourth president, uniquely different president. to determine that as Commander-in-Chief he can send his troops anywhere, anytime, and we can pay to get them back. So I'm, first of all, reject the whole concept you began, led, and went through, repeating the word unconstitutional. That may be good on MS now, but it's inappropriate here in the Congress, unless you in fact wanna walk over with me to judiciary and make the case that somehow it's unconstitutional which it isn't. As to losing, I'll take advantage of versus you because i went on active duty in united states army in nineteen seventy in nineteen seventy every plan we had had us run out of ammunition run out of ability in europe and fire nukes if we wanted to keep them from overwhelming us and driving us to the sea we have been in a situation time and time again in which large volumes of weapons mostly conventional and a willingness to to send hundreds or millions of people into machine guns could overwhelming us. We saw that in Korea, we saw it in many places. But I will tell you, America under this president is in fact building our capacity. In my own district, we have more than doubled the ability to make one five fives in a year. Howards are rounds, mister army. The fact is, we are b- building up. And what this president is doing, this administration is doing, that you seem to give He's used statutory and executive power to end,
Right.
in fact, tariffs and others to begin onshoring the capability again so we could surge as we did in World War Two. And by the way, at the beginning of World War Two, of course we were outmanned, outgunned, and had been training with wooden rifles. But we had the ability to catch up and we up and won a war in four years. So I heard you, you used it for whatever purpose, it didn't seem to be responsive to the general gentleman's uh actual bill. And I simply reject that. It is now time for us to get on board and recognize that Iran has shown us one thing, for which I hope the chairman will hold classified hearings. And that is that the confluence of evil, supporting Iran around the world, including China and Russia, is a serious threat for which we must get together and do more of what President Trump has been trying to do for the last many years. So, I'm sorry, but this is one time in which I would wish that you had phrased completely different two things. This is not an unconstitutional war. In fact, this is a very large skirmish that has shown us the vulnerability, as you said, but not to a t- period of hopelessness but instead to a period of needing to do exactly what the president's doing and many in this congress are fighting him tooth and nail that is what i have to say mr. chairman i apologize for not speaking on the underlying bill beyond saying that i will be supporting it and i yield back
any other members seek recognition representative self
uh thank you mr. chairman
sorry representative self i didn't see uh go ahead representative
thank you mr. chairman uh i don't think it's a skirmish i don't think it's a journey I don't think it's an excursion. I yield my time to Mister Liu.
Oh, uh, thank you, Representative Jayapal. I just wanna note that the prize of the United States causes a war. The Secretary of Defense causes a war. This is not a skirmish. And the Constitution's really clear. Only Congress can declare a war. But what I really wanna focus on again are just the simple facts. We're gonna run out of munitions, right? It it it it's just a fact. And it's not like World War Two, where all of a sudden, we can build, you know, ten thousand more THAAD missiles. We we make eight a month, ninety-six a year. So sort of no matter what you do, we're never gonna scale up the way we we could do in World War Two. Same with Patriot missiles. Again, ten thousand about ten thousand Patriot missiles over forty years. And then these drones could be mass-produced just very quickly. So there's just this asymmetry that we're not gonna be able to counter. And so I'm just asking for a hearing on a whole new strategy we're just going to need. And again, I'm talking about our pure competitors and adversaries, China and Russia. I'm not talking about Iran here. I'm just talking about what this Iran war has exp exposed, and it exposed that in a prolonged conflict, if the United States were ever to engage with China or Russia in a conventional military battle the United States is going to lose, just based on what the Iran war has shown. And those are just simply the facts. And we may not like it, But we have time now, since this war has exposed that, to then make sure we don't lose. Right? Let's have a new strategy where we don't lose. And, and, and maybe we look at different ways of doing this, but we have to accept the fact that in any war in the Indo-Pacific, our military bases will be destroyed. I yield back.
Any other members seek recognition? Representative Self.
Mister Chairman, if I may, I'd like to return to the mark-up. I uh, I applaud uh my colleague, Mister Miller, for this. I wish that we had had my stop shells act on this mark-up. Uh, it deals with companies, going deep to figure out who owns companies, but this is a good bill, a first start uh on the individuals uh and I think that uh we should support this as a first step. And I emphasize only a first step to what we need to do to identify how deep the molds are, in trying to get a
Gentleman yields back. Any other members seek recognition? Uh, Representative Boylan.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My district of Guam is the most western soil for the United States in the Indo-Pacom area. And Mister Miller's amendment here is I agreed to cosponsor because it's so important for for our island and for our nation's defense. This addresses our the big problem that we have And we'll close the loopholes, allowing our Chinese companies to access US and allied technology through subsidiaries in the United States. This is a solution that we have for our start. And I believe that President Trump has called on this administration to identify and eliminate loopholes in existing export controls. So, I'm very pleased to cosponsor uh this amendment, thank uh Representative Miller for bringing it forward, and I urge my colleagues to Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Any other members seek recognition? Representative Fein.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and and I wanna thank uh Representative Issa for his comments earlier, regarding some pretty repugnant statements that were made from the representative from California. But one of the comments that I heard, that maybe Representative Issa didn't, because there was such an a panoply of rev- revolting statements made. You know, you can you can disagree with the fight with Iran. You can be OK. if they get a nuclear weapon. You can be fine if they wanna kill forty thousand of their civilians. You can be fine if you're not bothered by the fact that they've turned off internet access for their folks for the last six weeks so nobody knows what's going on. But the gentleman from California referred to our military as, I quote, " a second rate military." That was his statement, that he just sort of slipped in there. He referred to the United States military, "the greatest fighting force the world has
Representative yields back.
Mr. Chairman, I just wanna say, cuz
No, no, he didn't. He referred to our military as a second, yeah. He did. Well, we could read, we can put it back. But that's what he said. I I I heard it. Thank you for listening. He said it was I think, I don't even know if you were in here when he said it. He referred to our military as a second-rate military.
Do any other members seek recognition? Seeing none, the committee will move to consideration of amendments. Does any member wish to offer an amendment? There being no further amendments, I move that the committee report H R six three three one,
Request a roll call vote.
A roll call vote has been requested pursuant to the chair's previous announcement. This vote will be postponed. Pursuant to notice, I now call up H R eight two eight five, the Protecting American Competition Act of twenty twenty six, The bill was circulated in advance and the clerk shall designate the bill.
H R eight two eight five. To amend the Export Control Reform Act of two thousand eighteen, to require a competitive market review of applications for a license to export, re-export, or transfer in-country certain technologies, and for other purposes.
Without objection, the first reading is dispensed within the bills considered read and open to amendment at any point does any member seek recognition? Representative Issa.
Mr. Chairman, I rise in support of I'm a co-lead with the ranking member uh ranking member Meeks. This bipartisan bill with a companion bill that is quite similar uh in the Senate relieves the BIS of a lengthy export license process and reduces times, not only to insure that the BIS does not inadvertently create a single license uh exporter uh to foreign buyers, but creates an avenue to expedite the review for license applications that share the same category of export and or end user. It streamlines the licensing application process, which is badly needed. And as an industry must innovate, manufacturers can reinvent and renew their research and development. There is in fact a healthy competition. That healthy competition in the US needs to also occur globally. For that reason, providing transparency and faster approval times, and particularly when a second or third vendor is available, but is also needs an export license, they should not find themselves well behind the first to be approved. This is good for America and it's good for the uh access uh by uh by our allies who often ask for these export licenses. And Mister Chairman, I wanna say that we have much more to do, that this is in fact uh again a a small first step but today we have problems such as was the last bill brought up of transshipping uh where you can see things that are transhipped that shouldn't you also see things where a product is made using an export product and there is no expedited way to make sure that that product can then be forwarded on to the ultimate end-user who may be a close ally. Modernizing the bis giving them both flexibility, but also guidance as essential, and this bill goes a long way toward that. And I wanna thank ranking member Meeks uh for his hard work on this, and for his making it bipartisan, and by the way, his work to make sure that the Senate companion looks relatively as though we can make the two into one. And with that, I thank the chairman and yield back.
Representative yields back. Any other members seek recognition? Ranking member Meeks.
Yes. As a democratic colleague of this bill, I strongly support it. And I wanna thank Representative Eisenhower leading it i wanna thank him for his constant communication and working together so that we can make it a strong bipartisan bill again similar to the language that's coming out of the senate i think is uh really really important i wanna thank him uh for always reaching out and calling and trying to do this thing in a bipartisan way uh bis must uh not play favorites and should treat all us companies consistently when it is reviewing licenses there have been a few instances in the past where an american company uh has been denied for the same license for which another American company was approved. This should not happen. Mister Eisensberge requires that uh BIS licensing officers consider the history of decisions for past licenses for similar technology to the same end-user. It also directs BIS to attempt to administer future licenses for the same technology in a timely manner so that there is an even playing field for American business. Again, thank you, Mister ISA. Uh, and I therefore I urge my colleagues to support this measure, and I yield back the balance of my time.
Do any other members seek recognition? I'll recognize myself. I wanna thank you, Representative Issa, for your work and uh your counsel always, the work that you do on uh so many pieces of legislation. Export controls, they insure America and our allies' innovations don't give our adversaries capabilities or advantages that cause us harm. That's the point. That's why we're doing this. But they're not meant to stifle American competition in the process. And that's something that we have to be aware of. There have been instances in the past when BIS has approved an export for one company, but due to unintended bureaucratic mistakes, did not adjudicate the same application for a competitor. This can be unfair and without any clear national security benefit to the US. This bill is straightforward. If two companies are applying for the same license to sell the same type of item to the same end user, and BIFs approves one license, then BIS should be timely in adjudicating the other competitor's license. We wanna make sure that that bureaucracy, that bureaucracy does not get in the way. We have to ensure that these export controls remain a national security tool, while making sure our licensing process is fair for companies and does not undermine the value of competition. Again, thank you, Representative Issa. Thank you, Ranking Member Meeks, for your efforts to level the playing field, and I urge my colleagues to support this. Is there any further discussion of the bill? There being no further discussion, we'll move to consideration of amendments. Does any member wish to offer an amendment? There being no further amendments, I move that the committee report H R eight two eight five to the house with a favorable recommendation all those in favor signify by saying aye.
Aye.
All those opposed signify by saying no. Depending on the chair, the ayes have it and the motion is agreed to.
Mr. Chairman, I'd like a recorded vote on that.
A roll call vote has been requested. Pursuant to the chair's previous announcement, this vote will be postponed. Yeah. Pursuant to notice, I now call up H R four nine two zero, the BIS IT Modernization Act. The bill was circulated in advance and the clerk shall designate the bill.
H R four nine two zero, to require modernization of information technology systems and applications of the Bureau of Industry and Security of the Department of Commerce.
Without objection, the first reading is dispensed with and the bill is considered read and open to amendment at any point. Without objection, the Meeks amendment, in the nature of a substitute circulated to members in advance, shall be considered as read and will be treated as the original text for purposes of the amendment. Uh, Ranking Member Meeks, would you like to be recognized?
Yes.
You are recognized.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I support this measure by Representative Crow, and I was happy to offer the bipartisan ANS that is listed as a base text. The number one thing we can do to make our export controls more effective is to properly resource BIS. Now the top of that list is making sure that BIS does not have to operate on an antiquated and shoddy information technology system as it attempts to monitor global trade flows and crack down on sophisticated attempts by bad actors to access to access some of our most advanced technologies. The bill authorizes twenty-five million dollars per year for four years to modernize information technology at BIS so that we are not protecting the crown Jews of American technology with Y two K era systems. We worked with BIS on this bill, and I know there have been several Think tanks, uh, think tanks that have put IT modernization as one of the best investments we could make into our national security today. And I'm proud to support
Do any other members seek recognition? I'll recognize myself. This bill addresses the national security threat posed by BI's catastrophically poor IT systems. A system that was built more than a decade ago with issues such as when users search for information in the licensing process system they'll often get different answers every single time instead of consistent answers. Or the search bar can't handle long term, so companies like China's SMIC, or Semiconductor Manufacturing International Corporation, cannot be searched properly. That's a really silly problem. BIS's IT is still living in two thousand eight, yet it's working to stop Chinese Communist Party from getting their hands on the most cutting edge technologies. This bill requires BIS to upgrade its IT systems to enhance the productivity and efficiency and to enhance the performance of the bureau. This measure benefits from the majority input to ensure that the funds dedicated to this modernization project only come from funds I urge all of my colleagues to support this measure. Do any other members seek recognition? Seeing no further discussion, do any other members seek uh to offer an amendment? Do any members seek to offer an amendment? There being no further amendments, I move that the committee report H R four nine two zero as amended to the house with a favorable recommendation. All those in favor, signify by saying aye.
Aye.
All those opposed, signify by saying no. Opinion of the chair, the ayes have it, and the motion is agreed to.
I ask for a roll call, Mr. Chairman.
A roll call vote has been requested. And as votes have been called, the committee will stand in recess.
Okay, the committee will come to order. Pursuant to notice, I now call up H R sixty-six twenty-four, the Biological Intellectual Property Protection Act of twenty twenty five. The bill was circulated in advance. The clerk shall designate the bill.
H R six six two four, to restrict the export to foreign entities of concern of United States intellectual property and sensitive information related to synthetic biology, and for other purposes.
Without objection, the first reading is dispensed with, and the bill is considered read and open to amendment at any point. Without objection, the Davidson amendment and the nature of its substitute circulated to members in advance shall be considered as read and will be treated as original text for purposes of this amendment. I now recognize myself for five minutes. So, I thank the Chairman, eh, uh, for noticing, uh, for mark-up this bill, the Biological Intellectual Property Act of twenty twenty five. It restricts the export of US intellectual property related to synthetic biology to foreign entities of concern. Countries like China are using a whole-of-government approach to steal our intellectual property, we should certainly find it a low barrier to just not ship it directly to them. Uh, this bill directs the secretary of commerce to require a license for such exports, modernizing our export control framework. We have robust controls of important technologies like semiconductors because we recognize the national security implications. The intellectual property related to synthetic biology should be no different. Any sensitive intellectual property that falls into the hands of an adversary could be weaponized against us and that's why I urge a yes vote on this bill, and I'm proud to have uh bipartisan support for it. Um, we did receive feedback and we tried to address those in the in the amendment in nature of substitute, giving uh a delay in enforcement until January of twenty twenty nine. Uh, there's not a small change in the market and contracts are tedious to amend, and rulemaking's hard for our e- executive branch agencies at times,
Thank you. Let me start by saying I really appreciate the sponsor,
Thank you.
Mister Davison's willingness to negotiate the text of this bill. in the run-up to this mark-up and i particularly also want to acknowledge that he has shown tremendous courage on important issues of the day over the past several months we need more of that in this chamber even if we cannot ultimately come up to an agreement uh nonetheless you know i i have to oppose uh hr sixty six twenty four in the current form but i'm hopeful that we can eventually reach a bipartisan agreement um we're still trying to work together to do that. Many of the bills on this mark-up are focused on BIS's shortcomings. Some of those failings aren't its fault, like Congress's inability to get the agency resources BIS needs to modernize its IT. Other problems can very much be placed at the feet of the agency. It's failure to maintain technical advisory committees, appropriately consult with compliance professionals in the private sector, process licenses expediently, or impose new controls on crucial technologies to ensure America's continued lead in the AI race over China. I raise this to say that we need BIS to be able to do the basics. My concern with this bill is that it is asking BIS to do something it is much less equipped to handle. The agency is used to dealing with semiconductors and other electronics, and avionics, and aircraft engines. It has neither nor the expertise to stand up significant new controls on bio biologics. Biologics. The agency could struggle vastly to carry out a new mandatory licensing requirement, synthetic DNA and RNA, and the time and effort it would take to do so would undoubtedly undermine the agency's focus on the many new semiconductor controls this committee is asking the agency to take over. undertake at this very mark-up. The Trump administration and the Biden administration have intentionally opted not to impose the types of controls required by this bill. I'm genuinely open to work with Mr. Davison and the majority on this bill, and will support a bill that requires an analysis of the merits of these controls, as well as the feasibility and the cost of relevant BIS licensing and enforcement programs. If the controls were meritorious upon further study and feasibility and feasible to implement, I would fully support a mandatory licensing requirement. But without that information, I'm gonna have to vote no on this legislation and I yield back the balance of my time.
The gentleman yields back. Is there further discussion on the bill? There being no further discussion on the bill, the committee will now move to consideration of amendments. Does any mem- member wish to offer an amendment? Oh, we already did the amendment in the nature of a substitute.
Do you have an amendment to the amendment?
I do not.
Uh, the the amendment to the amendment has the the changes from.
Oh. I, I do have an amendment at the desk. I thought we had already done that with the ANS.
No, sir.
The clerk shall distribute the amendment. Uh, clerk shall report the amendment.
Amendment to the amendment in the nature of a substitute number. one hundred and twenty-five to H R six six two four, offered by Mister Davidson of Ohio. Page three, line twenty-four. In the subsection heading
Without without objection further reading of the amendment is dispensed with. There are I would recognize myself for five minutes on the amendment. Um, as I said, this amendment, um, which I incorrectly thought we had ad- ad- addressed in another A and S so this is an amendment to the amendment uh in the nature of a substitute, it delays the enforcement to January twenty twenty nine. I hear Mister Meek's concern about uh, staffing and skill sets, and so we've tried to address that. It accepts exports or transfers for the purpose of drug safety evaluations by recognized public health agencies and countries of concern. It accepts exports or transfers for the purpose of trial activity uniquely tailored to an individual use so you're just targeting a specific individual for some of these things it accepts deemed exports which are defined as transferring technology to a foreign person in the United States. any release in the US or text source code to a foreign person is deemed to be an export to the foreign person's most recent country of citizenship or permanent residency. And it clarifies the def- definition of synthetic nucleic acid. It is intended to, uh, be a workable solution. I do fear sometimes, particularly in this field, that the pharmaceutical industry wields a lot of influence here. And, uh, I hope They're not trying to undermine something that really is important for our national security. Um, but maybe good for the bottom line on some of the pharmaceutical companies. Uh, I'm concerned about that. What I hope the consensus will rapidly build so that we can, uh, safeguard the intellectual property, and frankly that, that does benefit our companies when we protect their intellectual property. They're not just being targeted by, uh, you know, random actors. They have whole nation states trying to steal the intellectual property. Uh, so it should be or another reason for more investment in the United States, because we are gonna protect the companies that are here. We are gonna protect the products that are licensed here and the intellectual property that is put to use in our country. Um, and it's just gonna be exploited in a lot of countries of concern. So, I hope we can find the consensus to get this done between this mark-up and the time we hit the floor and I look forward to collaborating with all my colleagues to make sure this is something everybody supports because I I think it's uh clearly in the interest of our country. With that, I yield back the balance of my time. Um. So, I yield back. Uh, just uh, any any discussion on the amendment? Uh, any other members seek recognition? So, um. So. Think with that, I'll give you this criteria. There'd be no further discussion. The question now occurs.
Aye. Aye.
All those opposed signify by saying no.
No.
In the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it. And the amendment is agreed to. Are there any further amendments? K, a roll call has been requested. There being no further amendments, I move that the committee report on H R sixty six twenty four is amended to the house with our favorable All those in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. All those opposed, signify by saying no.
No.
And the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it, and the motion is agreed to.
We request a roll call vote.
I do request a roll call vote. A roll call vote has been requested. Pursuant to the chair's previous announcement, this vote will be postponed.
pursuant to notice and i'll call up hr six nine nine six the full ai
H R six nine nine six, to facilitate the export of United States artificial intelligence systems, computing hardware, and standards globally.
Without objection, the first reading is dispensed with and the bill is considered read and open to amendment at any point. Without objection, the fine amendment in the nature of a substitute, circulated to members in advance, shall be considered as read and will be treated as original text for purposes of the amendment. Do any members seek recognition? Representative Fein.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman, um, under your leadership, we have spent a lot of time talking about AI, the risks, particularly from China, and the importance of the United States being the country that's setting the agenda and the standards. Cuz what we're going through with AI right now is much akin to VHS or Betamax, or Macintosh versus Windows. There's going to be one standard that ends up being the standard for the world. And the question that we have, is it going to be ours or is it going to be the Communist Party of China who's going to win the AI arms race? It's not only um, it's not only what we're using in our country or what they're using in their country, but it's what is the rest of the country using as well. We want to ensure that our allies and partners build on their AI capabilities using the US technology stack and that's why President Trump has an AI action plan to win that arms race, um, which prioritizes exporting our full AI stack to our allies and partners. But it is not been codified into law yet. What my bill does is it codifies and ext- and strengthens President Trump's plan to export our full AI stack by doing a number of things. It directs the Secretary of Commerce to establish a program receiving proposals from industry groups to facilitate secure expert exports of the US full AI stack to allies and partners. It eliminates foreign barriers by d- requiring the Secretary of State to develop a diplomatic strategy for easing US AI companies' access to foreign markets,
Mm.
countering and promoting AI governance approaches that reflect American values. It directs a, it, we study global AI deployment by directing commerce and the ODNI to conduct a study on the benefits and impacts of the global deployment of US AI capabilities. We make sure there's security in US semiconductor products by directing commerce, state, defense, and energy to work with foreign purchasers to institute security measures preventing adversary access to US AI technology deployed abroad, including addressing adversary hardware and software within foreign purchaser supply chains. We're going to create an AI full-stack confidence initiative, directing commerce, state and the industry consortia to develop standards and best practices to improve confidence of US AI products among foreign purchasers. And finally, an export success tracker, establishing a biannual public report for the next five years, measuring US AI market share globally across five metrics, national computing capacity, AI AI chip design share, US operated data center share, AI model usage by tokens processed, and cloud computing revenue. This will allow the public to understand precisely the state of play of the AI arms race against the Chinese Communist Party. Again, one of us will win. It will be the US, or it will be China. Should this bill become law, we will help ensure that it is the United States of America, and I hope everyone will support the bill. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Representative yields back. I'm gonna move out of order for a moment and uh recognize ranking member Meeks, uh as we've lost a a member of the House of Representatives, the the whole house. Ranking member Meeks, you're recognized for as much time as you need.
Yeah. Unfortunately during the uh vote I acknowledge that uh this morning that Representative David Scott from Georgia uh passed away. Uh he's uh friend he was the um uh brother-in-law of hank erin in georgia uh an avid baseball fan uh an avid individual uh who worked with um with with with a the georgia delegation and completely you know someone that was filled with respect uh in that regards and he's going to be missed um he's an individual who has uh integrity and character uh and i i was just with him yesterday uh we happened to serve on the financial services committee also where he sat next to me uh and we had a chat about the vote that we were taking place in trying to use the electronic system uh and to hear of his uh unfortunate uh uh passing uh today uh is just something that uh is hit hit hits hard uh to lose a member in that regard tonight. thank the uh chairman to give me time to to acknowledge him in that regards.
Absolutely, Ranking Member Meeks, and uh thank you. We will continue on uh with regular order here. Do any other members seek recognition?
Thank you, Mister Chairman, and I also extend my sincere condolences to Representative Scott's family and friends we worked together on a number of issues when he was uh Ranking Member of the Agriculture Committee and it's a It's a, it's a grave shock. Thank you for recognizing him, Mister Meeks. Um, on this bill, uh, this is an interesting situation because we essentially have a tech bill that is coming through HVAC and I appreciate the sponsors' efforts to create a comprehensive strategy around exporting AI um but I do have concerns, as a member of the judiciary committee and the co-chair of the Monopoly Busters caucus and a member who has many of these AI companies in my district, I've been tracking very closely the AI industry, both in terms of the benefits that AI can provide to our society, but also in the context of competition in markets. Export controls have an important role to play in the AI market, and this bill essentially codifies President Trump's July twenty twenty five executive order the approach marshals taxpayer funded resources to artificially prop up a handful of corporations rather than having them compete on their own merits in a free market. When ChatGPT became popular in twenty twenty three, it seemed like the market was poised for robust competition, with a new crop of Silicon Valley challengers like stability AI and inflection AI. Three years later, it is very clear that the AI industry has now become consolidated in the hands of the usual suspects. Google, Microsoft, Meta, Microsoft-backed OpenAI, and Google, Google-backed Anthropic. These giant companies believe in a specific type of AI, that training models on vast amounts of labeled data using energy intensive data centers will unlock the next generation of innovation. But that's not the only model of AI that could work. Startups across the United States are exploring an alternative model that relies less on labeled data and more on reinforcement learning. The problem is not that big, the big AI model. The problem is that we are quickly betting our entire economy on hoping that it's right, and pushing out better models that might be there. There's no doubt that there are real benefits to AI. They help us do more with less by automating complex tasks, advancing our infrastructure, and improving our decision making. But they also come with great risk. AI chatbots have caused children to die by suicide. Algorithms have erroneously denied life saving health insurance claims and autonomous weapons have resulted in civilian casualties abroad. Now we can debate all day about whether the benefits outweigh the risks, but the reality is that trillions of dollars are being invested in the infrastructure to develop AI, even as the government has lagged far behind in making appropriate regulations to manage the risks that we know are there. Meanwhile, only billions of dollars are being spent by people and companies More money has been put into the AI infrastructure than the amount that we spent on the Manhattan Project and the Apollo program combined. It is a risky bet that if wrong could devastate our economy on a scale like we saw in the two thousand eight financial crisis. Instead of facilitating true competition between a diverse set of AI models, this bill essentially gives a government handout to the largest AI companies. It gives re-advertising by the Commerce Department on behalf of the companies, by launching a quote " confidence initiative" to promote their standards and products. It sets up an industry hotline for companies to essentially quickly remove any barriers that might exist. It leverages diplomatic resources to ease access to foreign markets for these companies, essentially taking a State Department that is supposed to quote " protect and promote US security, prosperity and democratic values and shape an international in which all Americans can thrive, end quote, and instead turns it into sort of a trade association for corporate AI that may very well disregard the harms to ordinary Americans in communities across our country. This is not the working of a free market, but rather a market that's distorted by the government lifting up just a very few companies, something that could quickly become a preemptive bailout. And so I caution against making the same mistake that we
Do any other members seek recognition?
And uh, I'm sorry, Mister Chairman, I also have some unanimous consent Fire away. I seek unanimous consent to enter into the record a March twenty twenty six time article entitled " We must prepare for an AI bubble now." Without objection. Uh, a July twenty twenty five Economist article entitled " America is easing chip export controls at exactly the wrong time." Without objection. A February twenty twenty five New York Times article entitled " Stop worshipping the American tech giants." Without objection. And a an April twenty twenty six press statement entitled house foreign affairs committee must oppose the full ai stack export promotion act
without objection
thank you mister chairman
do any other members seek recognition right can member meets
to lead in the ai race it is critical that we are exporting the us ai stack globally in a safe competitive and transparent manner and i don't agree with many aspects of the trump administration's ai action policy action plan I do agree that we must ensure that the USAI stack is deployed abroad in a manner so that it can be the stack of choice for our partners and allies. Uh, let me also say, uh, I just wanted to make sure that the record was clear. Uh, I was gonna ask Mister Feiner, Mister Feiner worked out it. I just wanted them to have a a clear record, uh, in regards to statements, uh, that was, uh, attributed to, uh, Representative Liu. So I think And so I asked to have the transcription of what Mister Liu said, so that the record is clear of what he said, uh, in regards to a second rate military. And I read, uh, this is the transcription. The third fatal flaw that was war of this war has shown this unconstitutional war. Even against a s- even against a second rate military, we can't stop damage to our military. bases and operation and operating locations. I previously served on active duty in the US military, and we have an amazing air force. One reason that one reason is that we gained air super superiority every time very quickly. That's what we did in Iran. We had air superiority qui- very quickly, and we have it right now. And despite that, we could not stop Iranian dreamers. drones and missiles hitting over twenty operating operating locations, including approximately thirteen US military bases. This is a second rate military, and our defense countermeasures could not stop these attacks. That is the transcription. Want it to be clear that he did not call the US military a second rate military. He was spoke of the Iranian military, and I just wanna make sure that is clear and correct. And maybe, Mister um uh Fine wants to uh uh acknowledge that of what he said. And I yield back the balance of my time.
Do any other members seek our recognition? Representative Castro.
Uh, thank you, Chairman. I also uh wanna extend my condolences on the passing of David Scott of Georgia um to his family and wanna say thank you for his longtime service to the people of this country and in his district in the us house of representatives and wanna speak on this bill now um i think the the goal of the bill in terms of promoting an american industry is one that we see across many american industries generally we want united states businesses to compete and win across the world i think that's a good thing uh so in a sense it's standard practice um there are few things that i'm one is that ai is still a nascent technology i feel like the congress including specifically all of us as members of congress and i would suspect many people in the administration do not fully understand it uh grasp it or understand the consequences of the technology yet to push forward such an aggressive where we're gonna be knocking down regulatory barriers, for example, and accelerating the promotion of it without fully grappling with it first, you'll notice that Congress has been especially deferential to twenty-first century technologies. In other words, we haven't legislated much, and therefore the executive branch has not, um, regulated much. Uh, I'll start with something that wasn't twenty-first century, and that was the internet. You know, nineteen nineties technology where it came into full fruition. Never really legislated on that much or regulated on that much. Uh, let's take another, uh, on crypto a little bit, on finance but not much. Uh, drones, haven't really legislated much on that or regulated much on that. Uh, and artificial intelligence is another one. Um, a firmly twenty-first century technology that's still nascent, still quickly developing, that we've not really grappled with. uh the way that we should uh and so this bill to me feels like we're kind of getting ahead of ourselves i think you gotta do a lot more ground work before you get to this point but the second thing that i'm also concerned about and really one of the main reasons i'm gonna vote against this bill is the rampant corruption within this administration and self dealing that we've seen from members of the administration and unfortunately from family members i just wanna give you one example and i'm just gonna use the president uh the president and his family sold a forty nine percent stake in world liberty financial to the u. a. e. for five hundred million dollars afterwards the administration approved the sale of highly advanced chips to the u. a. e. for their ai industry despite a deeply troubling record of cooperation between the u. a. e. and china and so either self-dealing or the appearance of self-dealing is significant that we have an obligation to address it. And the American people deserve to know that their government is acting in the public interest not in the pecuniary interest of a particular person who happens to be a government official or extended family or their investment portfolio. Uh, so for me to support this bill, uh, one thing is I'd wanted to clearly require that in the event a Commerce or State Department official or their immediate family owns or has a significant ownership stake in a company, that official recuse himself from any efforts to promote that company under the law. The same should apply to any companies owned by the president, vice president, or their immediate family. So, as a starter, absent that language, uh, I can't support this legislation. I would also add that all of us as members of Congress, uh, we have been under fire for owning stock. Uh, there's even been examination of family members, for example, of members of Uh, I I wanna say for the record that, you know, I support efforts to prevent members of Congress from owning stock. I've never owned stock during my time in Congress. I don't think I've owned stock since like, I don't know, two thousand three or two thousand four when I owned thirty shares of something. Um, but, you know, absent that, I can't support this legislation, and I uh urge others to withhold their support as well. I yield back.
Mm. Gentlemen yields back, do any other members seek recognition? Recognize myself. I have heard it said many times, I've said it myself, uh, that the US must win the AI arms race. And we could put many fine points on why. Uh, that is why the Trump administration rolled out its AI action plan that lays out clear and important recommendations for meeting that objective. Winning requires ensuring that our allies, AI, comes from an American stack, an American AI stack, not a technology controlled by the Chinese Communist Party, like Huawei. This bill achieves that goal by going on offense around the world to fast-track the secure export of the full American AI stack to our allies. America is the premier partner of choice, and this bill helps further demonstrate that truth. I want to thank Representative Fein for leading on this critical issue, for
Amendments.
I'm sorry. Are there any uh being no further discussion? Do any other members have amendments? Seeing no amendments, I move that the committee report H R six nine nine six as amended to the house with a favorable recommendation. All those in favor, signify by saying aye, aye, all those opposed, signify by saying no.
No.
Can I get a roll call vote?
You may. A roll call vote has been requested pursuant to the chair's previous announcement. That vote will be postponed. Thank you. Pursuant to notice, I now call up H R five five four three, the Baltic Security Assessment Act of twenty twenty five. The bill was circulated in advance and the clerk shall designate the bill.
H R five five four three. To require the secretary of state.
Without objection, the first reading is dispensed with and the bill is considered read and open to amendment at any point do any members seek recognition?
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Um, Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia are among the United States' closest partners and friends, and no NATO allies are more acutely aware of of the threats to NATO from Russia. Long before Russia's renewed full-scale attack, inv invasion of Ukraine, Russia has employed cyber attacks different from disinformation campaigns, influence operations, acts of sabotage, and other hybrid tactics to attempt to destabilize the Baltic States. This bill is simple. It expresses Congress's commitment to our Baltic friends and directs the executive branch to do a more comprehensive assessment of the threats that they face, and our posture to confront them. It is also important that the committee is acting on this bill today, as the Trump administration continues to undermine the trans-Atlantic relationship and calls into question the United States' commitment to NATO. We are already seeing them suffer as the administration indefinitely delays critical arms deliveries to Lithuania and Estonia. This bill demonstrates that Congress stands with our Baltic allies, recognizes their contributions to the NATO alliance, and remains committed to their security. So I strongly support this measure and yield back.
Do any other members seek recognition? Recognize myself? The Baltic Security Assessment Act is about basic national security. Strong allies in the Baltic region mean a stronger, safer United States. As Secretary of State Rubio and others have warned, we face growing threats from adversaries like Russia and China, including in so-called gray zone tactics. This legislation responds directly by requiring a forward-looking threat assessment that accounts for both conventional military risks as well as hybrid measures. It also calls for an analysis of the US and NATO's ability to counter these threats, getting necessary information to Congress as we conduct oversight of our nation's foreign policy. This bill also calls for the strengthening of economic and security ties in the Baltics, rewarding these allies for taking their security seriously. I urge my colleagues to support this bipartisan legislation. Is there any further discussion? Seeing none, the committee will move to consideration of amendments. Does any member wish to offer an amendment?
Aye.
Aye.
All those opposed, signify by saying no. If you need the chair, the ayes have it, and the motion is agreed to.
Mr. Chairman, request a roll call vote.
A roll call vote has been requested. Pursuant to the chair's previous announcement, that vote will be postponed. Thank you. Pursuant to notice, I now call up HR six zero five eight, the stride act. The bill was circulated in advance and the clerk shall designate the bill.
HR six zero five eight, to provide for multilateral semiconductor technology supply chain coordination and for other purposes.
Without objection, the first reading is dispensed with and the bill is considered read and open to amendment, at any point. Is there any discussion on the bill?
Mr. Chairman?
Please.
Um, thank you, Mr. Thank you, Chairman. I support this measure by Rep Huizinga and want to thank him and the Chairman for working to reach a compromise on this bill. That said, I think this is one of the bills that would have benefited from greater time for public debate and scrutiny. Despite the changes reflected in the ANS base text, I know that industry stakeholders, outside experts, and some of our allies have concerns about this bill. After the mark-up, I hope the sponsors can work to hear out and try to address any remaining, credible concerns about the bill, so that we end up with as strong and effective a final product as possible. And I yield back.
Gentlelady yields back. Recognize myself. This bill is about getting America's closest allies to take the AI arms race with the Chinese Communist Party as seriously as the United States of America does. The United States has limited its own companies from selling chip-making equipment to Chinese chip-makers like CXMT and YMTC. But many of our closest allies have yet to follow our leadership. Instead, they're filled the gap and padded their own wallets in many different cases, and this bill directs the Secretary of State to align allied technology measures with ours. If the Secretary of State determines a country fails to implement sufficient export controls on chip-making equipment, they must work alongside the Secretary of Commerce and inter-agency partners to recommend a set of actions to address the national security impact. I want to thank Mister Huizenga for his work on this legislation. I urge my colleagues to do the same. Is there any further discussion? See. Seeing none, the committee will move to consideration of amendments. Does any member wish to offer an amendment? There being no amendments. Hold on. Maybe there's an amendment.
He does want an amendment.
Got it. We do have somebody coming to speak. Hello, Mister.
Oh, nice. Thank you for your patience.
No problem at all. Take your time. You're good. Are you here to speak or offer an amendment?
I am speaking on the bill right now.
Okay.
Um,
Mr.
and if you don't mind, Mister Chairman, I'd like to take a moment of personal privilege
You may.
and uh introduce uh John Bolden, John the second over here, John stand up. Uh he is the winner of our our uh the app challenge that uh that Congress puts on and uh we're very pleased that he's uh he's from ashtamo just outside of kalamazoo mister mast actually is from michigan as well uh originally originally he's a floridian now
originally yes
uh but uh i just wanna welcome john so thanks for the for your time
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He's gonna speak for a minute. You can stand there by him if you want. Representative Huizenga, you're recognized.
Uh, thank you, Mister Chairman. Uh, securing the global semiconductor technology supply chain is critical to the defense of the United States, an allied nation's security, economic competitiveness, and technological leadership. It's no secret that the Chinese Communist Party and other foreign adversaries will stop at nothing in their pursuit of total domination, of this vital supply chain. All of which is done to feed its rapid military modernization and its security state apparatus, which it deploys against its own citizens and exports to the region. H R sixty fifty eight, the stride act, plays a critical role in convening allies to establish a coordinated joint approach for export controls and other security mechanisms for semiconductor technology. Here, we are not focused on a single choke point, but rather, on securing the entire ai stack end-to-end for ourselves and our allies. Moving forward, our allies must do a better job of aligning with US export controls to stop fueling adversarial military build-up. For example, uh for example, uh intentionally or unintentionally backfilling US companies or failing to take adequate security measures to protect sensitive semiconductor technology designs or equipment undermines our uh shared From tools for making China's uh advanced AI chips, to basic semiconductors powering Russian and Iranian drones, the State Department must ensure that partner nations are working together to secure the vital semiconductor technology supply chain from bad actors. The ANS to the stride act was negotiated in a bipartisan fashion and establishes a clear process for achieving future semiconductor technology supply chain coordination Moreover, this bill provides state and commerce with a road map for addressing non-compliance and how such decisions could impact national security. The STRIDE Act establishes clear duties and responsibilities for the State Department to carry out this displo- this diplomacy. More importantly, it also directs the Secretary to keep Congress informed on which allies and partners are unwilling to come to the table and what steps should be taken to protect this critical technology. And, Mister Chairman, as I had said, I have a young man, John Bolden, here with me today, who won the congressional app challenge. And it's gonna be young men like him, uh, and this generation, which is going to advance the technology that our country is going to need, to remain competitive and to remain the leaders in the world. And, uh, that's the reason why we are doing this, is for the future, to make sure that we maintain our standing as a nation in, on the world stage.
John, hold on, hold are you?
I'm fourteen years old.
Fourteen. So you're not coming for Representative He- Heisenga's seat yet.
Fortunately, Mister Chairman, he is eleven years shy of constitutionally being able to take me on, cuz I think he would be a tough
Very good. Thanks for joining us.
Thank you and I yield back.
Gentleman yields back. Uh, does any member wish to offer an amendment?
Sorry, Mister Chairman, that would be me with my uh with my ANS.
Very good. Uh, you have an amendment at the desk?
I do.
Clerk shall distribute the Heisenga amendment in the nature of a substitute, number eighty six. Eighty eight. Eighty six. Clerk shall report the amendment.
Amendment in the nature of a substitute, number eighty six to H R six zero five eight, offered by by Mister Huizinga of Michigan.
Without objection, further reading of the amendment is dispensed with and the gentleman is recognized for five minutes on the amendment.
Uh, thank you, Mister Chairman. I won't take all five minutes of that. Uh, but this A and S was negotiated, as I had said in my in my uh uh introductory remarks. Uh, this uh this uh uh uh uh ans uh was uh has a bipartisan uh negotiated uh language in it, establishes a clear process for achieving future semiconductor technology supply chain and uh and uh we're looking for coordination and commitment from our allies and our partners and i wanna say thank you to uh to my friends across the aisle for uh coming together and uh having this amendment in the nature of substitute that I believe is going to improve the bill and get us to a spot where we are going to be able to have significant bipartisan support. So with that, I uh urge my colleagues to support the ANS and the underlying bill, and I yield back.
Is there any further discussion on the amendment? There being no further discussion, do any members, are we gonna vote on this one first, or?
Okay, that's the first amendment.
Do any other members wish to offer an amendment to the Huizenga amendment in the nature of a substitute? Seeing none. Being no further amendments, the question now occurs on the amendment in the nature of a substitute, offered by Representative Huizenga. All those in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. All those opposed, signify by saying no. Pinging the chair, the ayes have it, and the amendment is agreed to. Do any other members wish to offer an amendment?
Um
Seeing none, there being no further amendments. I move that the committee report H R six zero five eight as amended to the house with a favorable recommendation all those in favor signify by saying aye.
Aye.
Aye. All those opposed signify by saying no. Depending the chairs, the ayes have it. The motion is agreed to. A recorded vote has been requested pursuant to the chair's previous announcement. This vote will be postponed. Thank you. Pursuing to notice, I now call up H R eight three two zero, the USA six G global leadership act. The bill was circulated in advance and the clerk shall designate the bill.
H R eight three two zero, to require additional duties of the ambassador at large for cyberspace and digital policy, res with respect to the
Without objection, the first reading is dispensed with and the bill is considered read and open to amendment at any point. Would the author like to be recognized?
Yes, Mr. Chairman.
You are recognized.
Mr. Chairman, uh, Ranking Member Meeks, thank you to the committee for supporting my bill, the USA six G global leadership act. The race to six G, the next generation of wireless technology that will follow five G is underway, and America cannot afford to fall behind. Six G will power advanced technologies like AI driven networks and other telecommunication methods. With leaders like Nokia headquartered in Dallas, and major employers like AT&T and Samsung driving innovation across North Texas, my district is at the forefront of next generation telecommunications. My bill ensures that we, not our adversaries, continue to set the standards while strengthening our national security and economic competitiveness. Specifically, The bill makes clear that the U S should leverage all diplomatic and economic tools to support U S companies and counter Chinese-backed enterprises. It tasks the relevant State Department positions with coordinating across federal agencies to promote U S aligned candidates for leadership in international standards organizations and advance U S priorities and international telecom standards and governance. It requires reporting on Chinese and Russian efforts to influence these processes to promote digital repression and leverage their positions in international telecom organizations to advance geopolitical objectives. And it requires a comprehensive US six G global dominance strategy. This bipartisan bill would support our companies in North Texas and across the nation, strengthen our national security, and counter strategic competition from China and other adversaries in emerging technology standards. These technologies will define the future, and if we want to
Any other members seek recognition? Representative Biggs.
Thank you, Mister Chairman, this legislation ensures the United States leads global efforts to develop and deploy next generation telecommunications, as we approach key international conferences that will shape the future of At its core, the bill puts the ambassador-at-large for cyberspace and digital policy in charge of coordinating US diplomatic strategy at the International Telecommunication Union's Plenipotentiary Conference and the World Radio Communication Conference. These are not just technical meetings. They are where the roles of the digital world are written. At the ITU, countries make decisions on global standards and spectrum that influence how networks are built. And at the twenty twenty seven World Radio Communication Conference, spectrum decisions will help determine who leads in six G and other emerging technologies including space-based communications. The Chinese Communist Party understands this, and is working aggressively to dominate these forums. They are funding research and development to shape standards, backing PRC companies and expanding their influence in standards organizations and the ITU. If we fail to lead, to lead, we risk surrendering global communications to Communist Party control, handing Beijing the power to surveil, censor and weaponize the world's networks against us. This bill fights back. It ensures America leads and stops the CCP from rigging the game as they work to dominate global telecommunications. The stakes could not be any more clear. Whoever controls six G and next generation satellite system controls the global economy and the future of national security. I urge my colleagues to support this legislation and I yield back.
General. It yields back. Any further discussion? Recognize myself. The race for global leadership in six G is here, and we have to ensure that the U. S. maintains technological leadership. To do so, the State Department has a critical role to play in all of that. The cyberspace and digital policy team will be responsible for building support for U. S. position on spectrum allocation at the International Telecommunications Union, known as the ITU, World Radio Communications Conference. This bill codifies the ambassador-at-large for space and digital policy's role in leading the diplomatic efforts at that conference. And it requires regular engagements with Congress to ensure that we have oversight over the department's preparations ahead of critical upcoming events with the ITU. Additionally, the bill would require a one-time report on China's efforts to shape standards throughout the ITU, so that the US remains ahead of the curve. It also requires that the State Department craft a strategy to promote the use of US six G technology around the globe. This is about putting American technology first,
Aye.
All those opposed, signify by saying no. Penny, the chair, the ayes have it.
Mister Chairman, request a roll call vote.
A roll call vote has been requested pursuant to the Jair's previous announcement. That vote will be postponed. Thank you. Pursuant to notice, I now call up H R six three two two, the Stop Stealing Our Chips Act. The bill was circulated in advance and the clerk shall designate the bill.
H R six three two two. To amend the Export Control Reform Act of two thousand eighteen, to establish a whistle-blower incentive program, and provide provide protections to whistleblowers.
Without objection, the first reading is dispensed with and the bill is considered read and open to amendment at any point and I now recognize myself uh for some discussion. The Trump administration has made it clear that AI chip smuggling and other export control violations are direct threats to US national security. As we saw in recent as in in recent two point five billion chip smuggling case of NVIDIA AI chips to China, adversaries like China, Russia, Iran, are working around the clock to gain access to our cutting edge technology. It is critical that we think creatively to step up our enforcement efforts and assist BIS in its critical mission. Let's be clear, China is stealing chips because China wants our chips. That's why they're stealing them. They cannot compete without American chips. Full stop. This is a great bill to boost enforcement of our export controls by building a whistleblower
Thank you, Thank you, Mister Chairman. I would like to speak in support of the Stop Stealing Our Chips Act. Chips are not just the kind that power our smartphones and home appliances. The most advanced chips are the cornerstone of America's technological leadership. My district is home to key innovators in the chip industry, ranging from Texas Instruments headquarters, one of the top semiconductor companies in the world, to Corvo, which produces critical components for key defense technologies. I have seen firsthand the talent that we have, and their desire. to maintain our edge in innovation. Our people benefit from these technologies every day. Our allies rely upon it, our adversaries covet it. As we see in the news over and over again, foreign adversaries like China, Russia and Iran constantly work to divert and smuggle our products. I am proud to be the Democratic co-lead on this bill, which is a common sense bipartisan step to protect our most sensitive supply chains and ensure that the innovations powering our economy and safety Establishing a whistle-blower incentive program at the Bureau of Industry and Security, or BISS, would strengthen export control enforcement and empower employees to report export control violations. Many thanks to Representative Kane for his leadership in advancing this bill. I look forward to working together on getting this bill passed into law. Looking forward, I urge this committee to consider additional measures like this one, including my bill with Representatives Moylan and Kane to rip adding the whistle-blower aiding National Security Act, which establishes a corresponding whistleblower incentive program for defense articles and services. A protected pathway within the State Department for whistleblowers to report their company's violations would deter violations, enhance compliance, and ensure that our most critical defense technologies don't fall into the wrong hands. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I yield back.
Any further discussion? Seeing none, does any member wish to offer an amendment?
Mr. Chairman. I have it.
Yes, Mr. Huizenga, you are recognized.
I have an amendment at the desk.
Clerk shall distribute the amendment. Clerk shall report the amendment.
Amendment number fifty six to H R six three two two, offered by Mr. Huizenga of Michigan.
Without objection for the reading of the amendment, it's dispensed with and representative is recognized.
Uh, thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'm offering this amendment on behalf of Mr. Cain of New Jersey. This amendment provides technical changes to the underlying bill, to
Do any other members seek recognition? There being no further discussion, the question now occurs on the amendment offered by Representative Huizenga. All those in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye.
Aye.
All those opposed, signify by saying no. If any of the chairs, the ayes have it, and the amendment is agreed to. Any further amendments? Seeing none. Being no further amendments, I move that the committee report H R six three two two, as amended, to the house with a favorable recommendation. All those in favor, signify by saying aye.
Aye.
Aye. All those opposed, signify by saying no. Opinion of the chair, the ayes have it and the motion is agreed to.
Mr. Chairman, request a roll call vote.
A roll call vote has been requested, pursuant to the chair's previous announcement. That vote will be postponed. Thank you. Pursuant to notice, I now call up H R eight two eight three, the deterring American AI model theft act of twenty twenty six. Bill was circulated in advance and the clerk shall designate that bill.
H R eight two eight three, to prevent foreign adversaries from threatening the national security of the United States by extracting key technical features of closed-source American-owned artificial intelligence models and for other purposes.
Without objection, the first reading is dispensed with and the bill is considered read and open to amendment at any point. Does any member wish to have
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Many thanks to Representative Huizinga for leading this bill, which starts to address the important new challenge regarding distillation attacks against US AI labs. This is a deeply concerning problem that first became widely known in February when Anthropic revealed that it found industrial scale distillation campaigns by three Chinese AI labs, DeepSeek, Moonshot and Minimax. This this attempt to mirror and steal the capabilities of American models is problematic. That said, given how new this problem set is, we must learn more about it. And I do not think this committee, nor the public, has grappled with the policy changes posed by distillation attacks. Ideally, we would have had hearings and briefings on this topic with the administration, to learn what the administration is doing to address this challenge. And it would have been helpful to give to give the administration and outside experts more time to adequately review
Recognize myself. Earlier this month, this month, the US AI lab, Anthropic, released its newest model, Mythos. It is likely the most
Mm.
capable cyber hacking ma hacking model ever. Capable of finding more zero day vulnerabilities in software than most any of our experts to date. Imagine if the Chinese Communist Party got its hands on this model. No American would be safe from China's aggressive hacking campaign. For years, China has tried to access, tried to get access to the essential computing capacity that they need in order to compete against us. Now they've turned to distillation. Through distillation, China can learn the key characteristics of our models and make them in a very inexpensive way. Distillation is no different than China getting its hands on thousands or even millions of our AI chips. Mister Huizenga's bill addresses this crisis. Entities that conduct these malicious attacks will be eligible to be added to the Commerce Department's entity list and even face sanctions. I urge my colleagues to support this measure. Is there any further discussion? Representative Huizenga.
Uh, thank you, Mary uh, Mr. Chairman. I appreciate uh you taking up eighty two, eighty three. Uh, and uh I'm proud to have been working on this. Um, the American frontier AI labs face routine distillation attacks, or as we're as we're calling them distillation attacks, but model extraction attacks to be more specific, from foreign adversaries. Many of the most advanced AI models owned by US companies are closed source models, meaning they're technical characteristics are not openly shared or published. Never nevertheless the primary PRCAI companies systematically extract key information such as model weights architectures and other technology characteristics from these proprietary US models but the model thief then uses that information to build competing models at a lower cost bypassing uh compute restrictions without having to invest in front-end R and D to train that model. If this sounds like a typical playbook for how China operates in the global market, bingo, you're right on. Distillation attacks are the latest frontier of Chinese economic coercion, export control evasion, and theft, outright theft of US intellectual property. These attacks pose a direct threat to the national security of the United States, and the economic competitiveness of US companies. American AI models are demonstrating transformative cyber capabilities, and the United States must prevent China from stealing these technological advancements. That's why I introduced by Bill HR eighty-two eighty-three the Deterring American AI Model Theft Act which identifies entities engaged in distillation attacks, and those that assist in such attacks, and cuts them off from foreign technology. This bill requires the commen- Commerce Department to study these illicit distillation networks and coordinate with the inter-agencies to best practices for detecting, preventing, and responding to model extraction attacks. Additionally, this bill establishes a publicly accessible AI model extraction attackers list to inform the public about these attacks and gives BIS the authority to add any AI model extraction attacker to the entity list. I want to thank house intel chairman Crawford, china select chairman Molinar, and subcommittee chairman Lawler for their support
Any further discussion? Seeing none,
Mm.
does any member Representative is recognized.
Mr. Mr. Chairman, I have an amendment at the desk.
Clerk shall distribute the amendment. Clerk shall report the amendment.
Amendment number eighty eight to H R eight two eight three, offered by Mister Huizinga of Michigan. On page four, line twenty three.
Not objection for the reading of the amendment is dispensed with. Representative is recognized.
Uh, thank you, Mr. Chairman. Uh, very briefly, this amendment is a technical edit, uh, clarifying that the Commerce Department has the sole authority to carry out
Any further discussion of the amendment? There being no further discussion,
Mm.
the question now occurs on the amendment offered by Representative Huizenga, all those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye.
Aye.
All those opposed signify by saying no. Opinion of the chair, the ayes have it, and the amendment is agreed to. Are there any further amendments? Seeing none. I move that the committee report H R eight two eight three as amended to the house with a favorable recommendation all those in favor signify by saying aye.
Aye.
Aye. All those opposed signify by saying no. Opinion of the chair the ayes have it and the motion is agreed to. Roll call vote has been requested pursuant to the jerry's previous announcement. That vote will be postponed. Thank you. Pursuant to notice, I now call up H R eight two eight four. The Bureau of Industry and Security License Administration Enhancement Act. The bill was circulated in advance and the clerk shall designate that bill.
H R eight two eight four, to enhance the administration of export control licenses under the Export Control Reform Act of two thousand eighteen, and for other purposes.
Without objection, the first reading is dispensed with and the bill is considered read and open to amendment at any point. I'm going to recognize myself for a couple moments. Export controls only work if they actually deny adversaries access to American technology. Right now, often they don't. This committee's Data shows the Biden administration's BIS approved sixty billion in licenses for Huawei, forty billion for SMIC in just six months. In the first quarter of twenty twenty-two alone, BIS approved more than twenty-three billion in licenses to entity-less companies and denied only eight percent of applications. A presumption of denial that denies almost nothing is not a presumption of denial, it's a rubber stamp. The BIS License Administration Enhancement Act fixes this issue, among many others. It requires the department to clarify what the presumption of denial standards entail. I want to thank my colleague, Mister McCall, for leading this important legislation, and I urge my colleagues to support it. You seek recognition?
I do.
Gentlelady is recognized.
Uh, thank you, Mister Chairman. Uh, I support this measure. In particular, it is critical that Congress codify the technical advisory committees that the Trump administration effectively brought to a halt without explanation. Why would the agency not want voluntary technical feedback and assist
gentle lady yields back is there any further discussion
uh yeah mr. chairman
chairman emeritus is recognized
yeah yeah i thank the chairman for that And I want to thank you, uh, first of all, for tackling this very important issue that, um, I think is probably the most important national security issue, uh, facing not only this committee but this Congress. Um, and it is within the jurisdiction of the committee. And I'm delighted to see you, uh, championing it and taking it to the, the extent that you have. Um, I want to thank my colleague, particularly, uh, Mr. Lawler and Ol Czefski. for cosponsoring this legislation. We're currently engaged in a defining global technology competition. To win that, the United States needs an export control system that is transparent, collaborative, and highly effective. Congress created the Bureau of Industry and and uh Security and the e- export controls we rely on today. And while some have viewed these controls through a trade lens, this committee's long recognized the true purpose, repeatedly making changes to address national security shortfalls as new threats emerge. At its core, this bill is a good governance bill. It does three critical things. First, it brings shadow regulations into daylight by forcing private, quote, is informed, unquote, letters to become public rules. Second, it modernizes our technical advisory committees we are getting advice from national security experts and not just commercial interest and third it requires the administration to report to congress on its most complex semiconductor regulations including the new foundry rule and the so-called white lists. Right now a company may receive a private notice from BIS called a quote is informed letter restricting their technology while their competitor operates freely without knowing the rules have in fact changed. That uneven playing field stifles the very businesses we need to out-innovate our adversaries. And furthermore, these letters result in national security decisions being made without a voice from the Department of War and State, the very agencies tasked with defending our nation and advancing our foreign policy. This bill fixes this problem by modernizing the system Congress built. It ensures our national security experts at the Pentagon, the State Department, and Department of Energy have permanent formal seats at the table for these critical decisions. This legislation also brings those private shadow regulations into daylight. Sunlight is the best disinfectant. It says that if a national security threat is real, extra Export controls must be made public. They must be clear, and they must apply to everyone evenly and fairly. This gives American businesses the certainty they need to compete on the global stage. The bill also ensures the government is getting the right advice from outside experts on these rapidly evolving technologies. For too long, our technical advisory boards have been made up solely of industry voices. This bill modernizes those boards, mandates a balance of industry specialists, academic researchers, and national security experts. It also ensures the technical advice driving our export controls is based on a clear-eyed view of the threat landscape. And finally and crucially, the bill restores Congress's vital oversight role. When it comes to the most sensitive technologies, like high-end chips driving the We cannot just hope our export controls are working. Congress must verify it. This legislation requires the Department of Commerce to review and report to Congress on their recent actions, including the new foundry rule and the so-called white list, as expanded controls on high-bandwidth memory chips to prove these critical restrictions are actually keeping us safer. In order to win
Gentleman yields back. Any further discussion?
It's Having an amendment in the nature of a substitute. I did that right.
Clerk shall distribute the amendment. Clerk shall report the amendment.
The amendment has been distributed by electronic device. Uh, amendment number forty three to H R eight two eight four, offered by Mister McCall of Texas.
Without objection, further reading of the amendment is dispensed with. This gentleman wished to be recognized on.
Uh, I believe I've addressed uh the amendment adequately at this point.
I think you did as well.
Thank you.
Do any other members seek recognition? There being no further discussion, question now occurs on the amendment offered by Representative McCall. All those in favor signify by saying aye.
Aye.
Aye. All those opposed signify by saying no. Opinion of the chair, the ayes have it, and the amendment is agreed to. Any further amendments? There being no further amendments, I move that the committee report H R eight two eight four as amended to the house with a favorable recommendation. All those in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. All those opposed, signify by saying no. Opinion of the chair, the ayes have it, and the motion is agreed to.
Uh, I guess for a roll call vote.
Roll call vote has been requested pursuant to the chair's previous announcement. That vote will also be postponed. Thank you. Pursuant to notice, I now call up H R eight two eight seven, the Semi-Duc Semiconductors Controls Effectiveness Act of twenty twenty six. The bill was circulated in advance and the clerk shall designate the bill.
H R eight two eight seven to require the Assistant Secretary of State for Intelligence and Research
Without objection, the first reading is dispensed with and the bill is considered read and open to amendment at any point anybody wish to be recognized.
Yes.
Representative Johnson.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I support this measure by Representative Stanton. In October of twenty uh two thousand twenty-two, the Biden administration imposed extensive new controls on advanced chips and semiconductor manufacturing equipment to China. The administration then updated those controls in the fall of twenty twenty-three, and then again at the end of twenty twenty-four. However, when we asked BIS to share with us the impact assessments, data and analysis analysis used to update those controls and to ensure that the controls were effective, BIS had nothing tangible to share. Now we know that generally speaking, our controls are working, but we shouldn't govern by our gut, but rather by the facts. And given this committee's oversight role in the fact that the Export Control Reform Act calls on this to use export controls only after full consideration of the impact on the economy of the United States, and only to the extent necessary, it is deeply troubling that nearly four years since the initial controls, BIS has yet to share any concrete data, evidence or assessments on the control's impact with this committee. Representative Stanton's bill solves that problem by asking the INR Bureau and the State Department to conduct a comprehensive study on the impact of America's semi-country controls and report to Congress on those findings. This is a common sense measure that will help us in the administration refine controls to make them more effective, and it will raise industry and public
Jenny Le- gentle lady yields back. Do any other members seek recognition? Representative Stan.
Thank you very much, uh, Mr. Chairman. United States must win the economic and security battle with China. Protecting America's semiconductor advantage is at the center of this increa- this important battle. US and allied con- and allied export controls on advanced semiconductor technologies imposed beginning in twenty twenty two were designed to contra- constrain China's a ai and high-end chip development. However, since twenty twenty two, Beijing's long-standing drive for semiconductor self-reliance has accelerated threatening domestic and allied companies and our national security. The Semiconductor Controls Effectiveness Act, which I introduced with Congressman Issa, requires comprehensive review of the impact and effectiveness of our semi-contr semiconductor con export controls on the PRC. This legislation aims to strengthen export controls on advanced ai chips, and improve congressional oversight to prevent the flow of US technology to competitors. We need to understand the impact of our current export control regime on the PRC military, intelligence and surveillance capabilities, the PRC's ability to develop, manufacture, and acquire advanced integrated circuits, and the PRC's indigenous semiconductor industry, its revenue, and global market share. We know the facts. Chinese semiconductor companies are rapidly growing. So, now is the time to conduct a serious assessment of our export control. to determine whether our current policies are having their intended effect. No such assessment can be made without the input of the semiconductor industry itself. Given the complex and deeply interconnected nature of the semiconductor supply chain, a proposal aimed at one part of the industry can have a disproportionate impacts across the technology stack. The feedback from the industry itself is critical to accomplish our mission of maintaining the United States' technological edge and closing Notably, the bill also requires the assessment to include recommendations from State, Commerce, Director of National Intelligence as to how Congress can refine our existing export control regime bolster enforcement efforts and close diversion loopholes. Although this committee is taking action to prevent the the PRC from bypassing U S export controls, it is critical that our national security agencies, in partnership with the semiconductor industry, provide Congress with recommendations as to what policy changes truly work and achieve the desired effect, constraining AI's China's AI and high-end chip development. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for bringing this important bill up for a vote today. The window to secure America's semiconductor advantage is narrowing. Left unchecked, China could render US and allied export controls irrelevant. Now is the time for Congress to work together in a bipartisan manner to assess and strengthen our export
Gentlemen yields back. I recognize myself. This committee has worked week in, week out for the last year and a half to learn about every level of the AI stack, from chips to models, chip making tools, lithography, more. One lesson we've learned is how important export controls have been to ensure that America maintains its lead in amassing the compute needed for AI. Without export controls implemented on a bipartisan basis since the first Trump administration, China might even be beating the United States in AI today. We all know these basic facts, but there are still some out there that argue that US export controls have failed, that there's no chip smuggling, that China would be our good faith partner if we just gave them crown jewel technology. Rep Stanton's bill would help show the importance of US export controls by having the State Department public
Uh, thank you, Mister Chairman. I have an amendment at the desk.
Clerk shall distribute the amendment and the clerk shall report the amendment.
The amendment has b- been distributed by electronic device. Um, amendment number seventy-four to H R eight two eight eight seven, offered by Mister Stanton of Arizona. Page three, line ten, strike semiconductors, and all that follows.
Without objection, further reading of the amendment is dispensed with. Representative Stanton, would you like to be recognized?
Thank you, Mister Chairman, this amendment makes small common sense updates to the underlying bill. Any assessment of the impact and effectiveness of our semiconductor export controls must also examine those export controls, concerning conductor materials and related consumable inputs, those items that are critical uh for wafer fabrication, assembly and testing processes, destined for the PRC. BIS has expanded end-use controls to cover development and production of semiconductor equipment and components. This includes strengthening of oversight of critical tools and materials used in semiconductor manufacturing. We need to understand whether our current export controls are effective, in preventing the PRC's advancement in all aspects of the semiconductor ecosystem. The accuracy of this assessment depends on robust engagement with stakeholders from all aspects of the semiconductor supply chain, the tool makers, chip manufacturers, and more all need to provide their review of the effectiveness of our current export controls. State also needs to engage with allied semiconductor stakeholders, like ASM, whose equipment is essential for manufacturing advanced chips. The Dutch and the Japanese are at the table as well. To ensure our export control regime is the most effective it can be, it is essential that we engage with allied stakeholders who are already engaged in the PRC. By making these two additional small changes, we will receive a more accurate assessment for Congress to act upon as we look to strengthen our export controls with the technology race with China. So I encourage all of my colleagues to support this amendment, and I yield back.
Recognize myself, simply to say I support the amendment. Do any other members seek There being no further discussion, the question now occurs on the amendment offered by Representative Stanton. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye.
Aye.
All those opposed signify by saying no. Depending on the chair the ayes have it and the amendment is agreed to. Any further amendments? Representative Stanton is recognized.
Thank you very much uh Mister uh Chairman, I do have a second amendment at the desk.
Clerk shall distribute the amendment and the clerk shall report that amendment.
The amendment has been distributed by Electronic Device. Um, amendment number seventy five, HRC.
Without objection further reading of the amendment is dispensed with, the representative is recognized.
Thank you very much, Mister Chairman. This amendment makes additional updates to the underlying bill. We have to address our reliance on China for other critical parts of the semiconductor supply chain. With historic investment made thanks to the chips and science act, the bipartisan act, we've solved part of the equation, but left the rest unfinished. Most critical minerals used in the semiconductors are still Ch- chips manufactured here are still sent to China for packaging. That means even our domestic manufacturing has choke points that an adversary controls. China also uses its control over the critical mineral supply chain to threaten us and our allies. China embargoed rare earth shipments to Japan over tensions in the Senkaku Islands and in response to comments it didn't like from Japan's Prime Minister. In twenty twenty four, China imposed stringent export. controls on gallium germanium antimony and other materials critical for semiconductors in retaliation for our expanded semiconductor semiconductor export restrictions on china although china's temporary rollback of such restrictions at the end of last year was positive who knows what the future holds as long as we remain reliant on china for these critical minerals we need to understand what impact our export controls have on the availability of critical minerals and how we can strengthen our control regime to prevent such a consequence in the future. This is why I've been fighting with the support of my Republican colleagues to diversify our critical mineral supply chain by bolstering the development of a regional semiconductor s- ecosystem in Latin America. Recent independent reporting from think tanks like CSIS and others explain that our export controls have accelerated Beijing's long-standing drive for semiconductor self-reliance. If we are to accurately understand why our our export controls have failed to constrain the PRC. Such an analysis must include the unintended effects that such policies have had on the development of the PRC's indigenous semiconductor industry. I understand the majority's opposition to this amendment. Adding this requirement to the assessment required by this bill does nothing to limit the need for strong export control regime. It only helps us to better understand how we can better tailor our policies to get it right and maintain our technological edge. I encourage all of my colleagues to support this amendment. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I yield back.
Gentleman yields back. I oppose this amendment. Do any other members seek recognition? Being no further discussion, the question now occur occurs on the amendment offered by Representative Stanton. All those in favor, signify by saying aye.
Aye.
All those opposed, signify by saying no. No. Opinion of the chair. The no's have it and the amendment is not agreed to.
May I ask for a recorded vote?
You may. A roll call vote has been requested pursuant to the chair's previous announcement. That vote will be postponed. Are there any further amendments? Thank you. Pursuant to notice, I now call up H R eight zero three six, the Inter-agency Coordination in Export Controls Act of twenty twenty six. The bill was circulated in advance and the clerk shall designate the bill.
H R eight zero three. to amend the Export Control Reform Act of two thousand eighteen, to permit the Secretary of State, defense or energy to submit proposed rules to the Export Administration Review Board to require the Secretary of State to evaluate
Without objection. Further reading is dispensed with and the bill is considered read and open to amendment at any point and without objection the Baird amendment, in the nature of a substitute, circulated to members in advance, shall be considered as read and will be treated as original text for purposes of the amendment. Does the author seek recognition?
Yes, Mr. Chairman.
Mr. Baird, you are recognized.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Bureau of Industry and Security, BIS, within the Department of Commerce is currently the principal body responsible for proposing, considering, investigating and implementing export control rules. These rules pertain to everything ranging from unmanned aerial systems, thermal imaging cameras, or more specifically to the focal point of this committee, semiconductor chips and AI bis determines export controls, although more organizations than the department of commerce are directly affected by these rules the department of war the department of energy both collaborate with partner nations to insure us technology is preferred tech for developing nations and allies but they are also work on non-proliferation and hindering our advers adversaries' ability to get their hands on us capabilities. The state engages frequently with allies and developing nations to incentivize the use and purchase of US technology. But again, there must be an emphasis on preventing the Communist Chinese Party from implementing US capabilities into their dual dual dual use apparatus. The Department of War, the Department of State, and the Department of Energy are all stakeholders, and they ought to have a seat at the table. Each department needs to input on how a specific control may affect our downstream defense industrial base, our energy cooperation with a partner nation, or ability to mutually benefit diplomatic relations to persist. The Bureau of Industry and Security is a great organization, with several hundred employees and at the intersection of commerce and national security. To tackle this rapidly growing issue, we must meet growth in AI, semiconductors, and dual technology, that ample staffing levels are met, and that the inter-agency has input. Allowing the Department of War, State Department, and the Department of Energy to propose export control rules instead of being at the behest of BIS will allow for each department to contribute both perspective and manpower to the export control rulemaking process. This bill doesn't push for any export control rule, rather reforming the rulemaking
Gentleman yields back. You seek recognition, Representative Johnson.
Thank you, Mr.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I oppose this measure which is designed to undermine commerce's role as the lead agency in our export controls. This committee deliberately placed BIS within commerce when it drafted and passed into law the Export Control Reform Act of twenty eighteen. I have not heard any compelling reasons as to why commerce should be removed from the lead role at BIS, except for the fact that the Trump administration has deliberately paused export controls on China. The departments of state, energy and defense already have the ability
Any other members seek recognition? Recognize myself. This bill addresses a critical, but or known export control issue. The export control agencies, State, War and Energy are bureaucratically restricted from utilizing their unique expertise in the export control policy-making process. These agencies all have specialized skills for ensuring that foreign adversaries like the CCP Russia and Iran cannot exploit US and allied technology to advance support for their militaries. Under current law, inter-agency coordination on these agencies' proposals is restricted by delays until Commerce formally submits their proposals for discussion. This undermines national security and adds bureaucracy that stifles timely policymaking. This bill's solution is simple. Drop the unnecessary barriers to coordinate and allow any of the export control agencies to directly submit proposals for inter-agency consideration. Other countries will know that when the State Department is asking them to adopt multilateral export controls, they are talking directly to an agency that can ensure timely delivery of license exemptions. incentives for adoption. This is good for national security and good for industry. I wanna thank Mister Baird for working hard on this common sense bill that would close loopholes in the export control process, and advance the Trump Administration's AI action plan. And I urge my colleagues to support. Do any other members seek recognition? There being no further discussion, I move that the committee report H R eight zero three six As amended to the House,
Okay.
with a favorable recommendation, all those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. All those opposed signify by saying no.
I'm okay.
Fini the chair, the ayes have it, and the motion is agreed to. Roll call vote has been requested pursuant to the chair's previous announcement. That vote will be postponed. Thank you. Pursuant to notice, I now call up H R one seven one and I now call it HR eight one seven zero the multilateral alignment of technology controls on hardware act. The bill was circulated in advance and the clerk shall designate that bill.
H R eight one seven zero to provide for export restrictions on certain semiconductor manufacturing equipment and components therefore, and for other purposes.
Without objection, the first reading is dispensed with and the bill is considered read and open to amendment at any point. Without objection, the Baumgartner amendment in the nature of a substitute
Well, big thanks, Mister Chairman.
Thank you.
The United States and our allies are leading the way when it comes to advanced chip production. Sophisticated tools, including the extreme ultraviolet, or EUV, and deep ultraviolet immersion, DUV, lithography systems produce cutting-edge chips at a scale not possible for any our potential challengers, including China. This equipment was not created by the US alone, but engineered after decades of allied collaboration. Yet China has made it abundantly clear that intends to dominate the technologies that underpin both our economy and our national defense. The PRC is investing heavily to replicate advanced semiconductor manufacturing often by exploiting gaps in export controls, shifting production across networks or affiliated firms, and pursuing alternative pathways where direct access is denied. The objective is not merely for them to catch up, but to l- build parallel systems that are less dependent on the technology and standards developed by free nations. Last year, I had the opportunity to become the first House Republican to visit China in six years. But one of my takeaways that while we need to find an accommodation coexistence with China, that we also need to avoid a war with China. And of course, the best way to do that, all of us remember the saying, if you want uh, well, peace, prepare for war. Well, right now, we are not prepared. And to do that, the United States and our democratic allies must protect our AI dominance that we already have. Uh, we are getting beat by China in other areas. We must absolutely protect our AI dominance. The US cannot afford to leave back doors opens that allow the Chinese Communist Party to acquire the tools it needs to catch up and leap ahead in semiconductor manufacturing. Right now, US export controls restrict American chip-making tool companies from selling to China. But our allied supplier companies have not matched our controls. For example, in twenty twenty four, ASML of the Netherlands derived thirty-six percent of its total revenue from China, up fourteen percent from just two years earlier. Meanwhile, US companies sit on the sidelines while their foreign competitors gain market share, and China still gets their important equipment. I introduced the Match Act to ensure that America and our allies move in lockstep to close these gaps, defend our technological edge, and safeguard the supply chain that powers everything from our weapons systems to our critical infrastructure. The Match Act gives allied supplier countries time to adopt controls And if they refuse, it requires BIS to exert US jurisdiction over allied chip making tools built with American technology, ending the crisis of allied companies backfilling export controls on China. It does not attempt to control AI innovation or pick winners among companies. Instead, it focuses on the conditions that makes innovation possible. Aligning controls on the specialized equipment, including checkpoint technol- uh, choke choke point technologies that require to produce advanced semiconductors, and do so in
So further discussion? Ranking member Bix.
I support this measure, which is designed to constrain advanced node chip makers in China by depriving them of US and allied semiconductor manufacturing equipment and other components. At the same time, I know that this bill has generated vigorous debate among national security experts, our diplomatic allies, and the US semiconductor industry. While there are clear short-term benefits to this bill, as it moves forward, I think it's important that the sponsors of this bill consider the long-term impacts of US, on America's alliances and partnerships and on US technology leadership across the semiconductor supply chain over recent weeks I've heard from some US companies that are supportive of the bill as well as US semiconductor industry members who have voiced concerns as illustrated by industry associations such as ITI and CIMI the sponsors of the bill have also not taken and predictable uh PRC retaliation into account, as we saw last fall when China imposed extensive rare earth controls. Mandating specific controls within limited time periods on allies and competitors alike will constrain the administration's ability to get this right and work cooperatively across the board to protect our national security. And ultimately, these sorts of complicated policy decisions should not be legislated by us. It should be made by BIS, which can draw deeply from the expertise of other federal agencies, technology specialists, and hard intelligence. I would hope that we can get BIS up to snuff so they can do just that. This should not be something that we just legislate. It should be something that goes through the experts. And with that, are you back, Michael?
Ranking member yields back. Any other members seek recognition?
Mr. Chairman.
Chairman Emeritus.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman, I want to thank uh Mr. Baumgartner for his leadership on this critical national security legislation. The United States is locked in a high stakes competition with the Chinese Communist Party over the future of artificial intelligence and military technology. We know they steal our technology, but we don't have to sell it to them. Protecting our technological edge is It has spanned multiple administrations because the threat is existential. During his first term, President Trump secured a signed agreement from the Dutch and Japanese governments to keep ASMLs and Tokyo Electronics most advanced lithography machines out of the CCP hands. I know this firsthand because I was a part of that agreement. I met with the ambassadors. We discussed it. The agreement was ironclad. The Biden administration attempted to build on that foundation by restricting exports of AI chips and other semiconductor equipment. But rather than securing a strict agreement from our allies, like the Trump administration did, the Biden administration naively acted on trust. American industry was asked to sacrifice for national security, and believing that our allies would follow suit. However, they did not. And that is the problem. And that is why we have this bill before us here today. Today, while American companies face strict export controls and real financial sacrifices, some of our closest allies are backfilling that market in China. Foreign companies are rushing in to make billions of dollars Chinese tech giants with the exact same tools American companies are banned from selling, often building those tools using American original software and components. This is not just a trade issue, it's a security failure. It's a diplomacy failure. We are shooting our own industry in the foot while China leaps ahead using choke point technology that they cannot That is why the Match Act is so important. As Representative Baumgartner stated, " we cannot have, we cannot have open back doors." This bill addresses the most dangerous gaps in our current system, and it gives the administration a clear mandate, a hundred and fifty day deadline, to re-engage our allies in diplomatic negotiations, to construct a signed agreement, not not one based on trust but a iron-clad signed agreement that they will match the controls we already have in place on our equipment. But our patience is not infinite. If ally countries refuse, this bill says that we will put export controls on US intellectual property inside these tools ensuring that they can never be sold to China. Not from us and not from our allies. If we stop the tools and the technicians, then we can stop the CCP's progress. We needed a united front against the CCP and a level playing field for American companies. We cannot allow our allies to profit from the risks we take to protect the free world while they in turn go around the back door and profit off this loophole the Biden administration created. So let's fix this problem. That's what
Gentleman yields back. Any other members seek recognition? Going to recognize myself. The importance of advanced chips in today's military operations in no way, shape or form could be overstated. The efficiency that chips and AI add to our military decision making, our calculations, how they aid in taking decisions that could take months or years down to weeks or days, it's not something that we can afford to lose in. This is recognized in the war between Ukraine and Russia. It's recognized in this conflict between the United States and Iran. And it's recognized on a host of other battlefields. I say that to give context. Each year China and their semiconductor industry hold a major to showcase its ambitions to overtake the US and its allies in critical technologies like chips and AI. Which are for the military in many circumstances. It's not just military video games. It's not just video games of war fighting. It's real casualties, real fighting, real decision making, real weapon systems, real war. Every year, one of the biggest exhibits at the expo is from Dutch firm ASML. Why are they there at that expo? They are there to sell their super advanced chip making tools that they are the best at. Nobody does it better than them. And absolutely incredible technology, but they are there to sell those advanced chip making tools, known as DUV immersion lithography machines to China. That's why they're there. This is the single most important tech that China needs to build AI chips in order to help their military and a host of other things that work against the United States of America. Whether they're trying to use distillation to go out there and hack and learn and and do everything they can against American companies like Anthropic or anything else. Without these tools, China cannot make their own chips. They're left in the dust. They can't do it with The math is that simple. And they likely won't be able to for many years to come. Mister Baumgartner's build would limit China's access to the most critical machines and the parts needed to ad- make advanced chips. And then work with our allies to agree to work on agreed shared restrictions for selling those tools to China. What will, what will not be sold? Who will work on them? Who will, who will provide technical support? This bill would address one of the gravest issues in front of our committee today, and I wanna thank Mister Baumgartner for leading this bill, and I urge my colleagues to support it. Any further discussion? Being no further discussion, we'll move to consideration of amendments. I'm sorry, Mister Huizenga, you're seeking recognition.
Yep. Sorry about that.
You are recognized.
Sorry about that, Mister Chairman. I I I wanna thank you and I wanna thank the uh gentleman from Washington, Mister Baumgartner, for his uh work on this very important uh legislation moving forward and I've I've been I've been telling some of my uh colleagues and some of my um staff who have been wondering where I've been so much lately, I've actually spent more time in a skiff in the last eight months looking at these issues than I have in my entire eight terms of being in Congress. And uh it is that important, that critical a time, and as chairman of the subcommittee with jurisdiction over export controls, Uh, last November I hosted a hearing, uh, titled " Export Control Loopholes, Chip-making Tools and Their Sub-Components". And the idea was to shed light on the very issue that the match act addresses. The takeaway was clear. Our allies have weaker export controls than the United States does, and foreign companies continue to pad their wallets at the expense of our shared national security goals. In a not so shocking statement, US firms real restrictions against selling to uh China's memory chip making champion, CXMT. Nevertheless, Japanese and Dutch companies have a much easier time backfilling this hole in the market and make billions frankly in the process. If the United States and our allies are going to get serious about the AI arms race, this practice has to end. The Match Act does just that, ensuring that US allies raise their controls to match ours, thereby preventing the CCP from exploiting our critical technology for its own gain. Moreover, this bill bans China's access to the single most important tool for growing its indigenous production of advanced chips, the DUV immersion machine. Without this tool, America and its allies can widen their lead over China in both semiconductors and AI. I know some in the industry have said, " That toothpaste is out of the out of the uh, the tube already. Uh, that might have been the first mistake. Let's not make a second mistake, which would be then to allow these allies to go in and, uh, and send additional equipment to extend that. So, moreover, uh, uh, I know there's been a lot of conversation about the servicing requirements of these DUV machines currently in China. The ANS for this bill significantly scaled back required allies' companies to obtain a license from BIS to continue servicing those tools. This is the same pro- same protocol that American companies must follow when servicing their tools. So it's not impossible, but there has to be a review in that, uh, in that process. Uh, the days of weak diplomacy and giving our allies free pass to undercut our shared, what they would call our shared, uh, security are over. So I've seen how China is exploiting access to America's and uh and our allies' chip-making equipment to modernize its military and pursu pursue global AI dominance. The bipartisan match act advances the security, the economic prosperity, and the technological leadership of the United States and our allies by protecting critical chip-making equipment from the Chinese Communist Party. So I do urge my colleagues to support this bill. I think this is common sense. Uh, I say, Mister Chairman, you've heard me say this in in some other arenas, a sanction is only as good as your willingness to enforce it. And sadly we've had far too long this notion that if we just sort of pronounce these sanctions or pronounce these restrictions that uh, that's good enough. And Mister Chairman, we have discovered it's not good enough, and it's not, it's time to put an end to it. So I urge my colleagues to support this bill
Any further discussion? Being no further discussion, does any member wish to offer an amendment? Representative Perry.
Thanks, Mister Chairman, I have an amendment at the desk.
Clerk shall distribute and report the amendment. Thank you.
Amendment to the amendment in the nature of a substitute to H R eight one seven zero, offered by Mister Perry of Pennsylvania.
Without objection,
H ten.
further reading of the amendment.
Thank you, Mister Chairman, I want to begin by thanking you for the mark-up and the maker of the bill for his work and effort on this subject, long overdue. I also want to address my good friend, the ranking member, regarding his comments with BIS, and while the legislature moves slowly and oftentimes too slowly for fast-moving issues like this one, I'll remind everybody why we're at this moment and how we got here. The last administration essentially let the trust of this critical technology know-how uh and its capability with the with our allies who aren't always with us on every occasion and certainly have different interests than we do, but primarily unfortunately with the trust of the Communist Party of China, which is why offer this amendment to the match act which is well-intended legislation but it can be made stronger with some additional provisions it is true that the match act would increase visibility and parity with foreign companies who manufacture in china these new regulations at bas must come with enforcing mechanism not just signatures but actual consequences this amendment would do three things one expands the number of this bill would apply to. As of now, the companies that are listed include those that manufacture manufacture CXMT and YMTC memory makers, SIMIC logic chips. Any and all companies in the chip industry supply chain in the CCP must be included to ensure comprehensive impact. Two, if companies who currently operate in China fail to comply with the license newly mandated through the match act, they will be required to remove their tools and machinery from Chinese soil. And number three, the same companies who refuse to comply with the new requirements enumerated in this bill will have to transit, will have transit of current tools and machinery to China halted. China is a nation, is not a nation of originality. They are thieves, imitators, and copycats, and they do so at the cost of American greatness and innovation at a minimum, not to mention national security and international security. Parity and visibility sound great and diplomatic, but without an enforcing mechanism they are and will be fruitless. It is time we put our money where our mouth is and hold our allies to the same standards that we require our company.
Gentlemen Yields, any other members seek recognition? Recognize myself. Thieves, imitators, and copycats. Couldn't agree more. Uh, fundamentally, your amendment raises very important questions, which we've been working on, will continue to work on. Uh, as Representative Huizenga pointed out, we've been spending endless amounts of time in the skiff and behind closed doors with round tables, with everybody from industry, we will continue to do so. Um, I will simply say, uh, you've raised important issues, and I agree with many of them, and, uh, whether this amendment does or does not pass, you have my commitment that I will work on them one way or another, uh, because I think they are serious concerns, uh, and will be to work on them one way or another starting tomorrow. So that much I can tell you. But I do not recommend a yes on this amendment. Any other members seek recognition? Representative Huizenga.
Uh, thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'd I'd love to, uh, to to hear a little more from the, uh, sponsor of the amendment. What what you feel are the inadequacies of the bill in its current form that uh because you you're unconvinced of bis's authority or willingness to uh to to sanction or treasury's unwillingness to sanction what just help me understand the point that
uh i don't wanna look we left it to an administration and look elections have consequences i get it but i think the legislature needs to um to to make sure that any administration the American people understand that we stand with um the American people, with the national sovereignty of our country, with the national security of our country, and in cases where there might be a question of political influence, that we take that question off the table. We intend to not have the Chinese Communist Party come anywhere close to parity with the United States of America when it comes to chip manufacturing, AI, or anything related in this in this race that we find ourselves in with our adversary.
Reclaiming my time, I I I have I don't disagree, and much like the chairman, I don't disagree with uh anything that you are saying or positing of what we need to do. I guess what I'm trying to trying to understand is the motivation behind the amendment. Um, it certainly, I mean, this would be extremely uh tough. Uh, we uh, I think a number of us have heard uh late, by the way, very late in the process, we've heard from some of those uh, who, uh, who have concerns. Um, and I thank the chairman and Mr. Baumgardner, uh, and certainly any of the ancillary conversations that I've been a part of, have been in good faith trying to find a way that we can move forward on a bipartisan basis. I had a bill earlier that would have included state department in a, in a process, I believe it was the, uh, minority's request that it solely be Department of Commerce, uh, that, uh, that do that, uh, that review. Um, so I'm I'm just, just help me understand as I'm trying to figure out whether I can or or uh support this uh amendment as it's written, as it's getting inserted now, or whether I uh much like the chairman say I I agree with the concept and the uh certainly the motivations behind but I'm not able to uh to to to vote yes on the amendment based on on the product that we're trying to move forward.
Yeah,
So so you'll you'll be
and I and I understand and and of course I too seek a bipartisan product because because we want this as it's been said around here to be a law-making exercise, and we too have heard from um from concerned parties regarding this legislation that Mister Baumgartner has worked on so well and it's been revised because we want a bipartisan solution. But I also have to acknowledge that the um that the interests that are reaching out to us essentially have sold us out for profit. And I want them to be sure. to be absolutely sure that we mean business, that if they don't like the current legislation that Mister Baumgardner has offered that's been amended, that the chairman recommends, that it can get actually, it it can actually get tougher, and it will get tougher. We mean business.
So it's, uh, reclaiming my time, so it's not necessarily a doubt about Treasury's commitment or BIS.
Well, we wanna direct them.
But we're wanting to, okay, you're wanting to to make sure that, uh, that you enumerate what the teeth might be and what the penalties might be.
Correct.
So that's correct. OK. Uh, I think I have a good understanding of that, uh, Mister Chairman, and with that I yield back.
Very good. Gentleman yields back. Any further discussion? Representative Baumgartner.
Thank you, Mister Chairman. I just wanted to, uh, thank, uh, Congressman Perry, uh, for his, uh, strong stance and and interest, uh, on the issue. Y- you know, the underlying bill, the premise here is that we need to take steps to make sure the us maintains a significant advantage uh in this space and because of uh essentially the the reason it's called the match act is to match uh our foreign uh partners' rules uh with america's and if we don't get a bill across the finish line then uh we'll have missed an opportunity here and so while i'd i uh certainly respect the uh the effort and you have my commitment uh to to work together uh on this issue i'm i'm i'm respectfully ask for a a no vote on the amendment as well too just as we try to get a bipartisan product across the finish line given the the stakes of of where this uh thing is at and with that uh mister chair yield back rick
remember meeks
yeah i do have to oppose this measure um i'm voting yes on the bomb Ghana bill because i do understand the significance and the importance for our american companies and businesses to have a level playing field and as i indicated i think that there's some things that i have to look at for the long term uh but i think it's important that the message that we wanna make sure that our american business and our national security which is ultimately uh the most important thing to me uh is prepared and uh and so i think we do have a vital bipartisan bill, the way it is. Um, I think that if this measure was to pass, then I might have to rethink how I vote on this bill, um, because of some of the concerns that I have. But I thank Mister Baumgartner because we've been able to work and talk, uh, in this regard, so, uh, to, uh, to - to make this bipartisan so that if it could move and melt away, we don't get everything that you want one way or the other. So, uh, I - I - I have to oppose this measure, uh, and
Gentleman yields back. Any further discussion? Seeing no further discussion. Recog- uh, Mr. Perry, Representative Perry.
Mr. Chairman, in light of the conversation with the the conversation kind of centered around where we wanna go, one way or the other, let me say that, one way or the other, in the interest of bipartisanship and getting something done as opposed to not having anything, but also with the specter of executive action if we fail here. And when I say we, not just the House of Representatives, not just this committee, but the ability to get this to the president for a signature, someone like me will be rep- recommending executive action. But with that, I withdraw the amendment respectfully.
Gentleman withdraws, and like I said I'll look forward to working
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have amendment number one at the desk.
Clerk shall distribute the amendment and the clerk shall report the amendment.
Amendment to the amendment in the nature of a substitute, number one, to H R eight one seven zero, offered by Mister Baumgartner of Washington.
Without objection, further reading of the amendment is dispensed with. The representative is recognized.
Uh, thank you, Mister Chair. Uh, this amendment makes some small technical changes to the bill and incorporates bipartisan feedback to ensure that our allies understand our motivations and reports to Congress remain confidential for national security purposes. I particularly want to thank Congressman Castro and all those who provided thoughtful feedback for this bill including uh the ranking member. And with that, I urge my colleagues to vote in favor uh of this amendment and I yield back.
Any further discussion? There being no further discussion, the question now occurs on the amendment offered by Representative Baumgartner. All those in favor, and I recommend a yes. All those in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye.
Aye.
All those opposed, signify by saying no. Opinion of the chair, the ayes have it, and the amendment is agreed to. Any further amendments? Seeing none. I move that the committee report H R eight one seven zero as amended to the house with a favorable recommendation. All those in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. All those opposed, signify by saying no. Opinion of the chair, the ayes have it.
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'd like to request a roll call vote.
A roll call vote has been requested. Pursuant to the chair's previous announcement, that vote will be postponed. It's the last one.
Yes.
Last one. Huh? I'm not. Call recess.
There's no
All right. Pursuant to the Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Under the Trump administration, export license reviews are facing extensive and excusable inexcusable delays in an industry survey conducted in twenty twenty six by the center for strategic and international studies fifty eight percent of respondents reported license review times averaging over one hundred and eighty days thirty one percent reported waits of over three hundred days and seventy eight percent reported significant increases in license processing times over the preceding twelve months These days are costing United States businesses billions of dollars in revenue, costing the American people jobs, and harming America's technology leadership and critical sectors. The delays are inconsistent with the Export Control Reform Act of twenty eighteen, which suggests that most applications should be reviewed within thirty days. Moreover, BIS's own regulations stipulate that license applications should be adjudicated. no longer than ninety calendar days from the date of application submission. My bill, the BIS Licensing Efficiency Act of twenty twenty six amends the ECRA by stipulating that licensing decisions should be made within ninety days. If a licensing decision is still not made after one hundred and twenty days, the secretary must contact the applicant, and offer a reason why. It also amends ECRA to create a quarterly reporting requirement that will force BIS to inform Congress about license timelines and processes so that we can ensure that this does not happen again. I wanna again thank Representative Issa, uh, who I've worked with on several bills on this, uh, Mark.
Ranking member yields back. Any other members seek recognition? Recognize myself?
Mm.
The BIS License Efficiency Act will provide useful visibility into the licensing process at BIS. As Chairman, I've benefited greatly by my ability to request licensing information from BIS as a part of ECRA. And this bill is in the same spirit. It requires a quarterly report on the status of applications within the BIS licensing process, giving Congress more insight. I want to thank Mister Meeks for his work on this. This bill has been refined through input from the majority and it benefits from having Representative Issa as its co-lead. I urge all of my colleagues,
Aye.
Ask for a roll call.
Roll call. The chair's previous announcement, that final vote will be postponed and the And the committee will now recess.
What time do you think we call for votes? Truthfully, i.
you're unnecessarily quiet
nothing's gonna happen
that's right
there you go
there you go
Yeah, yeah, that's great.
You were good.
this would give us some of those tendons out there huh
a great deal of elderly parents and uh mmm
Thank you everybody for your attendance. Committee will come to order. Uh, I am going to recognize ranking member Meeks for a moment.
Thank you, colleagues. Um, as many of you may know, earlier this morning, we we lost one of our colleagues uh david scott who had who passed uh and david who has served in this house uh for over twenty five years uh he is uh he was the ultimate businessman graduating from the walton business school in pennsylvania he was the first african-american to ever chair the ag agricultural committee uh he also served uh right beside uh me on the uh financial services committee. He was a dear friend. We would often talk about baseball. You know, he knew everybody, especially uh back uh in uh uh with the Brooklyn Dodgers because of the fact that he was also the brother-in-law of the all-time great Henry " Hank" Aaron. Uh, and we would have stories about him and talk about him all the time. So I just would ask um, and I thank the chairman for giving me this time a brief moment of silence uh uh, to memorize the life and the times of our colleague, um, David Scott. Thank you.
Thank you.
Committee co- postpone further proceedings on reporting H R eight two zero two to amend the Export Control Act of two thousand eighteen provide for a ten year statute of limitations for export control violations favorably to the house, on which It's what a
Mm-hmm.
Yeah. Fair enough. Mr. Chairman? What are we doing? Mr. Chairman? Where were we?
Yes.
Um Some of us have better eyesight than others. Uh how can we determine
Okay.
if in fact our vote has been recorded? No.
It hasn't it hasn't it hasn't opened, it hasn't opened.
Uh no, but it was up there for a moment.
No no, it wasn't.
No. They were just trying to find a thing. Hmm? Yeah. It's terrible. Yep, and moving down. Okay. Mm. Okay.
Mr. Chairman.
Mr. Burchette.
I could, this reminds me a little bit when I was in the state legislature in Tennessee,
You're
and we switched to computers.
Can you share with us the story?
I will.
Fantastic.
As as we say in East Tennessee, thank you for axing. Um,
You're recognized.
thank you, Mr. Chairman. I remember the chairman, who was a dear friend of mine, after we uh switched over to computers,
What was his name?
Democrat. He was a very rural, rural uh West Tennessee Democrat. He was very good man, unlike some of my friends across the aisle, and like some up and up. Hey, mix, it's a mixed match. I'm pointing at you, Jackson. Um, but he said Yeah, I remember w- before we had these computers, we could all vote by hand, and we knew what the vote was gonna be. And now we switched over the computers, and he said, and we'll know w- and we'll come back next week and we'll find out what our vote was. And I feel like we're in that
You have kin in computer sales?
No, my kin, no. My kin is, look. There's two groups of Burchetts in Tennessee. Whiskey. There's one group of Burchetts who went to school, that was mine, and there's ones that went to work. The ones that went to work made all the dadgum money.
Uh-huh.
So.
Got it.
Thank you, Mister Chairman, for this moment of reflection.
Mister Chairman, Mister Chairman, Mister Chairman. Uh uh yes, Mister Keating. Uh, I'm asking unanimous consent that uh representative Burchard's uh comments be part of the permanent record. Does, does anybody second that motion?
Hey, Mister Chairman,
Object.
I I I cannot hear out of my left ear,
Object. Object.
my wife says it's selected, the doctor says otherwise, what was that?
Mm-hmm.
What was that?
Wants that to be a part of the record? Uh, nobody has seconded that yet.
Yes. I see.
Okay. Mister Mills has seconded it. All right.
I'll second it, I'm all right with it.
I'd just like to know what school he went to. Yeah.
University of Tennessee is the best six years of my life undergraduate.
Texas is grateful for volunteers.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah. Texas? Did you say Texas?
I I said Texas is grateful for volunteers.
Yeah, well, Texas is.
You killed the last one that went there.
If If it wasn't for us, there wouldn't be a Texas. Davy Crockett, you know what he said?
I knew I could stir this up.
Thank you. Davy Crockett said, " You can all go to hell. As for me, I'm going to Texas." And he went to Texas.
How's that working out?
Well, and he ends up getting killed at the Alamo, but he got a Disney special outta the deal, so it kinda evened out.
You wear a raccoon hat unlike um what the secretary of food services wear. Doesn't raccoons.
Are we ready to vote? Unless Mister Burchett, would you prefer to go back to recorded uh a roll call vote?
I don't care. I just wanna get out.
Fair enough.
They they promised me there's gonna be refreshments and we got the majority and there's no pizza. I'm I'm looking at the ranking member down there and he's always he's telling me how to dress and he always offers me refreshments so I'm my my vote is wavering,
We had breakfast this morning.
Mister Chairman.
Fair enough. I'll invite you for breakfast next time. All right, let's vote. Clerk, can you open the vote? Recommend a yes.
ok
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mr. chairman i'm i'm concerned uh my i'm supposed to be in red according to my
hello i'm uh i'm sorry
party designation is there something wrong here i'm in blue
you maybe uh age and uh and eyesight mr. reissa i'm not sure
where is that where
There's a West Tennessee Democrat when you need him, Mister Chairman, that's all.
Now we lost a vote.
We don't know who's who's right.
Now we lost.
They're. They're color coordinating it.
Uh-huh.
Hey. Of all members voted, does any member wish to change their vote? Clerk will close the vote and report the tally.
On this.
On this vote, the ayes have it, the motion is agreed to. Committee postpone further proceedings on reporting HR seven nine six two, the Export-Dispute Resolution Act favorably to the House on which the ayes prevailed by voice vote. Question now occurs on reporting the measure to the House with a favorable recommendation. Members will vote using the electronic voting system. The clerk will open the vote. Have all members voted? Does any member wish to change their vote? Clerk will close the vote and report the tally.
On this vote, the a's are forty four, the no's, zero.
The ayes have it and the motion is agreed to. Without objection, the motion to reconsider is laid on the table. Staff is authorized to make any technical and conforming changes. Committee postponed further proceedings on reporting H R eight one six nine, the Export Control Enforcement Enhancement Act, as amended favorably to the House, on which the ayes prevailed by voice vote. Question now occurs on reporting the measure to the House
On this vote, the A's are forty four, the No's zero.
The ayes have it and the motion is agreed to without objection. The motion to reconsider is laid on the table and staff is authorized to make any technical and conforming changes. The committee postponed further proceedings on reporting H.
On this vote, the ayes are forty one, the noes three.
The ayes have it. Without objection, the motion to reconsider is laid on the table. Staff is authorized to make any technical and conforming changes. Committee postponed further proceedings on reporting HR seven zero zero th three, the BIS strength act favorably to the house, on which the ayes prevailed by voice vote. The question now occurs on reporting the measure to the house. With a favorable recommendation, members will vote utilizing the electronic voting system. The clerk will open the vote. Have all members voted? Does any member wish to change their vote? Clerk will close the vote and report the tally.
On this vote the ayes are forty-two, the noes two.
The ayes have it, the motion is agreed to without objection, the motion to reconsider is laid on the table, staff is authorized to make any technical and conforming changes. Committee postponed further proceedings on reporting H R five eight five three, to amend the Export Control Reform Act of two thousand eighteen, to increase the civil penalties that may be imposed under such act favorably to the House, on which the ayes prevailed by voice vote. The question now occurs on the reporting the measure to the House with a favorable recommendation.
On this vote, the ayes are forty four, noes zero.
The ayes have it. Without objection, the motion to reconsider is laid on the table and staff is authorized to make any technical and conforming changes. The committee postponed further proceedings on reporting H R eight two eight eight, the strengthening export controls compliance act. Favorable.
On this vote, the ayes are thirty nine, noes five.
The ayes have it. The motion is agreed to. Motion to reconsider is laid on the table. Staff is authorized to make any technical and conforming changes. The committee postponed further proceedings on reporting H R six three three one, the adversaries act as amended favorably to the house on which the ayes were billed by voice vote. The question now occurs on reporting the measure to the house with a favorable recommendation. Members will vote utilizing the electronic voting system. The clerk will open the vote. Have all members voted? Does any member wish to change their vote? Clerk will close the vote and report the tally.
On this vote, the ayes are forty four and noes, zero.
The ayes have it. Without objection, the motion to reconsider is laid on the table. Staff is authorized to make any technical and conforming changes. The committee postponed further proceedings on reporting H R eight two eight five, the Protecting American Competition Act of twenty twenty six favorably to the House, on which the ayes prevailed by voice vote. The question now occurs on reporting the measure to the House with a favorable recommendation. Members will vote.
On this vote the ayes are forty four, noes zero.
The ayes have it and the motion is agreed to. Without objection, the motion to reconsider is laid on the table. Staff is authorized to make any technical and conforming changes. The committee postponed further proceedings on reporting H R four nine two zero the BIS IT modernization act as amended.
On this vote the ayes are thirty nine, noes five.
The ayes have it and the motion is agreed to without objection. The motion to reconsider is laid on the table. Staff is authorized to make any technical and conforming changes. The committee postponed further proceedings on reporting HR six six two four. The Biological Intellectual Property Protection Act of twenty twenty five is amended favorably to the house, on which the ayes prevailed by voice vote. The question now occurs on reporting the measure to the house with a favorable recommendation. Members will vote. Utilizing the electronic voting system, the clerk will open the vote. Have all members voted? Does any member wish to change their vote? Clerk will close the vote and report the tally.
On this vote the ayes are thirty two, the noes twelve.
The ayes have it, the motion is agreed to.
Oh, excuse me, hold on. Or no, or twenty two, oh, so I thought that was a close one. It is closed.
You good? just have to recognize each other and check if all of those
he would like to
yeah he's quite realistic yeah
that change is by voice
he was asking us unanimous consent to change our vote to yes
yeah i just ask unanimous consent to change my vote from yes to no
without objection
mr. chairman
thank you
i can have a consent to change my vote from yes to no
mister costa without objection anybody else
Clerk will close the vote and report the tally.
Thank you.
On this vote, the yeas are thirty, the noes are fourteen.
The ayes have it, and the motion is agreed to without objection. The motion to reconsider is laid on the table. Here's the vote. Staff is authorized to make any technical and conforming changes. Committee postponed further proceedings on reporting HR six nine nine six, the full AI stack export promotion act, as amended favorably to the house on which the ayes prevailed by voice vote. Question now occurs on reporting the measure to the house with a favorable recommendation. Members will vote. utilizing the electronic voting system. Clerk will open the vote.
No, I know what you have to do.
Have all members voted? Does any member wish to change their vote? Clerk will close the vote and report the tally.
On this vote the ayes are thirty seven, the noes seven.
The ayes have it. Motion is agreed to without objection. Motion to reconsider is laid on the table. Staff is authorized to make any technical and conforming changes. Committee postponed further proceedings on reporting H R five five four three, the Baltic Security Assessment Act of twenty twenty five favorably to the House, on which the ayes prevailed by voice vote. The question now occurs on reporting the measure to the House with a favorable recommendation members will vote utilizing the electronic voting system. The clerk will open the vote. Of all members voted, does any member wish to change their vote? Clerk will close the vote and report the tally.
On this vote, the ayes are four.
The ayes have it. Without objection, the motion to reconsider is laid on the table and staff is authorized to make any technical and conforming changes. Committee postponed further proceedings on reporting H R six zero five eight, the stride act as amended favorably to the house, on which the ayes prevailed by voice vote. The question now occurs on reporting the measure to the house with a favorable recommendation. Members will vote utilizing the electronic voting system and the clerk will open the vote.
On this vote the ayes are forty four, the noes zero.
The ayes have it. Without objection, the motion to reconsider is laid on the table. Staff is authorized to make any technical and conforming changes. Committee postponed further proceedings on reporting H R eight three two zero, the USA six G global leadership act favorably to the house, on which the ayes prevailed by voice vote. The question now occurs on reporting the measure to the house with a favorable recommend recommendation. Recommendation. Members will vote. Mm.
On this vote, the ayes are forty one, the noes two.
The ayes have it, the motion is agreed to without objection.
Morning. Thanks folks. Uh, during the um,
Fourth of July.
Fourth of July, Saturday's speech.
Does any member wish to change their vote?
Should be.
Clerk will close the vote and report the tally.
On this vote the ayes are forty three, the noes one.
I think we can
The ayes have it, without objection, the motion to reconsider is laid on the table, staff is authorized to make any technical and conforming changes. We do a second vote. Committee postponed further proceedings on reporting H R eight two eight three, the Deterring American AI Model Theft Act of twenty twenty six, as amended favorably to the House, on which the ayes prevailed by voice vote. The question now occurs on reporting the measure to the House with a favorable recommendation. Members will vote utilizing the electronic voting system. The clerk will open the vote. Have all members voted? Just a rea Does any member wish to change their vote? Trades are trying to bring the Clerk will close the vote and report the tally. Um,
On this vote the ayes are forty three, the noes zero.
I would The ayes have it, without objection, the motion to reconsider is laid on the table. Staff is authorized to make any technical and conforming changes. The committee postponed further proceedings on reporting H R eight two eight four, the Bureau of Industry and Security License Administration Enhancement Act, as amended favorably.
On this vote, the ayes are forty three, the noes one.
The ayes have it. A motion to Without objection, the motion to reconsider is laid on the table and staff is authorized to make any technical and conforming changes. Committee postponed further proceedings on the roll call vote on amendment number seventy-five offered by Representative Stanton to H R eight two eight seven, on which the no's had prevailed by voice vote. A question now occurs on agreeing to the amendment. Members will vote utilizing the electronic voting system. Clerk will open the vote. I recommend a no vote. Have all members voted? Does any member wish to change their vote? Clerk will close the vote and report the tally.
On this vote the ayes are nineteen, the noes twenty five.
The noes have it and the amendment is not agreed to. I move that the committee report H R eight two eight seven as amended to the House with a favorable recommendation all those in favor signify by saying aye, aye. All those opposed signify by saying no. Pending to the chair, the ayes have it, the motion is agreed to.
Chairman asks for a roll call.
Roll call vote.
A roll call vote has been requested. Uh.
I'm calling roll call.
Clerk will open the vote. Clerk will Close the vote and report the tally.
On this vote the ayes are forty three, the noes zero.
The ayes have it, the motion is agreed to without objection. The motion to reconsider is laid on the table and staff is authorized to make any technical and conforming changes. Committee postponed further proceedings on reporting HR eight zero three six, the Inter-agency Coordination and Export Controls Act of twenty twenty six, as amended favorably to the house, on which the ayes prevailed by voice vote. Question now occurs on reporting the measure to the house. I had some. I had some. I'm good.
On this vote, the
The ayes have it, the motion is agreed to. Without objection, the motion to reconsider is laid on the table and staff is authorized to make any technical and conforming changes. Committee postponed further proceedings on reporting H R eight one seven zero, the multilateral alignment of technology controls on hardware act as amended favorably to the house, on which the ayes prevailed by voice vote. The question now occurs on reporting the measure to the house with a favorable recommendation.
Thank you.
Members will vote utilizing the electronic voting system. The clerk will open the vote. Have all members voted? Does any member wish to change their vote? Clerk will close the vote and report the tally.
On this vote the ayes are thirty six, the noes eight.
The ayes have it, the motion is agreed to. Without objection, the motion to reconsider is laid on the table and staff is authorized to make any technical and conforming changes. The committee postponed further proceedings on reporting H R eight two eight nine the BIS licensing
On this vote the ayes are forty four, the noes zero.
The ayes have it. The motion is agreed to. Without objection, the motion to reconsider is laid on the table. Staff is authorized to make any technical and conforming changes.
I'm all for the
This concludes consideration of the measures noticed by the committee for today. I think it's a good idea. Thank you all members for participating. I think it's a good idea. Being no further business to transact, I think it's a good idea. committee stands adjourned. I think it works. It works. Yeah, it's a good idea.
I think it's time to go vote.
Give me a motion.
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