FY 2027 MilCon-VA and FSGG Bills, Interim Subcommittee Allocations

committee will come to order uh we'll resume our consideration of fy twenty seven financial services and general government bill uh before we do i've been asked just to remind you if you're having meetings outside there's rope lines that they try and direct you away from the doors just so

thank you mister chairman i ask unanimous consent to that the member that the amendment be considered as read

without objection the reading of the amendment is dispensed with the general lady is recognized for remarks on her amendment

mmm

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This is really an amendment that will determine whether any of us actually mean that we want to make America healthy again. My amendment strikes the long-standing rider preventing the Federal Trade Commission from finally releasing the inter-agency working group report on food marketed to children this working group first convened in two thousand nine to develop nutrition standard recommendations for food marketed to, marketed to children under seventeen. The mission was simple. Prevent unhealthy foods from being peddled to our children and instead encourage them to eat healthy and address the youth obesity crisis. Unfortunately, results from this report were buried because Republicans in Congress included a rider in the FY twenty twelve FSG G appropriations bill that prevented its release and that rider still stands to this day over a decade later, and these guidelines are needed now more than ever. In our country today, over twenty percent of our children live with obesity. Let that sink in. That's fourteen million kids. And we know children living with obesity are more likely to remain obese when they enter adulthood. It also greatly raises the risk for costly and sometimes deadly chronic conditions, like diabetes, cardiovascular disease, stroke, and even cancer. That not only places more stress on kids, but it puts more financial strain on families, costing our nation over thirteen billion dollars annually, in direct and indirect medical spending. Thanks to horrific health care budget cuts by the Republican majority, coverage is costlier and harder to get, which makes treating chronic diseases tied to tied to childhood obesity even more punitive. But we know prevention is the best medicine, and releasing the inter-agency working groups report is a common sense step to help ensure our children aren't bombarded with ads for fatty foods and sugary drinks by the processed food industry I'm a bit stunned that we have to make this ask. Isn't keeping processed foods out of our the Maha Mantra, especially for kids? The fact that this industry worked so hard for so long to hide these findings, should alarm everybody. But I'm hopeful that the renewed part is bipartisan interest on healthy eating and chronic disease prevention will unlock these recommendations. My amendment also modifies the committee report to ensure the working group's report includes information on foods marketed to children that contain microplastics toxic pesticides and other potentially hazardous substance substances. Scientists now find microplastics in our blood, our lungs, and even in the placenta of fetuses. The research is still emerging, but early evidence suggests exposure to microplastics can lead to cardiovascular issues metabolic disruption and inflammation. As a cancer survivor who dramatically changed my own eating habits after researching the impacts of heavily processed foods, and as a Jewish mother who still makes sure my three young adult children make the right choices and make i know every parent wants the same for their kids so let's do right by our kids and finally require the ftc to do something basic and non-controversial or or at least it should be and that is release the report that they've sat on for almost fifteen years we we've seen the consequences of other industries deadly industries that have hidden the true impact of their products and it is horrifying I can't think of a better way to help make America healthy again. I urge my colleagues to vote in favor of this amendment and I yield back the balance of my time.

Thank you, General Lady. Uh, the gentleman from Ohio, Mister Joyce, is recognized to respond to the amendment.

Thank you, Mister Chairman. I oppose this amendment. This amendment attempts to strip out a bipartisan legacy provision that has been enacted in there- in law every year since two thousand fourteen. The existing provision simply prohibits agencies from finalizing the Obama Inter- Administration's outdated nutritional guidance unless

Thank you, gentlemen.

Thank you. Thank you. Good morning.

The uh gentleman from Maryland, Miss Horris, recognized to respond to the amen-

This is another Amendment that seeks give the American public information on what its government is doing. Simple as that. Uh. The FTC, like every other regulatory committee in our jurisdiction has had no hearing before our committee. Zero. They have not been subjected to questioning about anything they do. Surely, surely the Appropriations Committee uh does not believe that's how we ought to operate. Surely the Appropriations Committee and each one of our sub-committees should feel a responsibility to uh question, learn, and act upon facts that they have at hearings. That's what hearings are for. Um, this is a pattern, of course, of objecting to disclosure of information. So I rise in support of this very important amendment. Parents are dealing with a lot of challenges, not the least of which are higher costs for necessities and gas as a result of President Trump's tariffs and war choice. And gasoline and tariffs have put them in a very tough position. Their government certainly ought to be telling parents, this is our best judgment on what food foods are healthy for you. In the Labor Health Committee, uh, the secretary was asked a number of questions about make America healthy again. And then he was asked about, uh, the administration's policies on making more, uh, toxic air as a result of undermining regulations of coal and other toxic substance. Ladies and gentlemen, this is a pattern. In The Washington Post this morning, as I was reading my phone, we have one CDC delays publishing report showing COVID vaccine benefits. Now you may disagree with that report, but that report was provided uh with taxpayer money, was done with taxpayer money. And the taxpayers ought to have that information available to them. The other story that I happened to read this morning, early this morning, Trump fought to keep the ballroom fundraising contract secret. Here's what's in it. Um.

Is it?

Apparently, what we do is we draft reports, uh, and then if we don't like the result, we say, nope, we're not gonna issue them. That's what the gentlelady from Florida is saying. There is a report. It is available, should be available. This language, uh, refers back to the, uh, I'm not sure, the, the chairman said ninety four, and it's been in the bill since ninety four. Is that accurate, Mr. Chairman? What were you, it was ninety four?

Twenty fourteen.

Pardon?

Two thousand fourteen.

OK, two thousand fourteen. That's why I was surprised. Uh, because of course we were in charge of Congress and uh that year. Uh, in twenty fourteen we weren't. Again, this language is to cover up. I hear so much talk about transparency and letting the public know what's going on, but here we have three instances where that's not the case. And very frankly, I was shocked when the secretary, I know that's not our subcommittee, uh in Health and Human Services said that he had a condition preceding to his being appointed secretary. What was it? That he would not deal with energy. No matter what the health consequences were. He would not deal with energy. And a member of our subcommittee, he's not here right now, uh asked that question and pressed him on that question. He said, " No, that's not my expertise, that's not my jurisdiction." So in that context, I would hope that we could have an amendment approved unanimously by this committee said, you got information that's important for parents um to have their children healthy, then we ought to let them peruse that and make their decision on whether or not they believe that information should be followed. I urge adoption of the amendment.

Thank you. Gentleman, the gentlelady from Connecticut. Mister Laura is recognized to address the amendment.

Mr. Chairman, I rise in support of this amendment. Uh, two years ago I led a bicameral letter urging the FTC to complete and release an updated version of its report titled Review of Food Marketing to Children and Adolescents. The FTC's last major report was published in two thousand twelve using data from two thousand nine meaning the most updated data we have on food marketing to children, is nearly twenty years old. We know that American children are not meeting the basic nutritional goals, and that companies aggressively market unhealthy food and sugary beverages to children. This aggressive marketing includes the food, beverage, and restaurant companies that spend nearly fourteen billion dollars per year on marketing in the United States, with more than eighty percent of the advertising promoting unhealthy food choices. On top of that, they get a tax for these advertising practices that hurt our children's health, earn them billions in revenue. So we face a dual obesity and diabetes epidemic. It is time we do our part to stop it. I will soon be reintroducing the Sob- Subsidizing Childhood Obesity Act, which would address the marketing of unhealthy foods by closing the tax loophole that companies use to advertise these products to children. I hope someone everyone in this room will join me as a co-lead. There is no reason why this legislation shouldn't be bipartisan. This amendment would provide even more information to policymakers,

Watch. Mm-hmm.

so that we can understand what other practices companies are using to pad their bottom lines at the expense of our children's health. That's great. Crucially, modern data would also include the impact of the rise of social media and influencer marketing which has supercharged the food advertising My colleagues on the other side of the aisle often claim they want to quote, make America healthy again, end quote. What better place to start than holding accountable the system that pushes unhealthy food on our kids in the most deceptive way. Congress must stop letting companies off the hook for negatively impacting children's nutritional health. I urge my colleagues to support this amendment and I yield back.

Thank you, General Leidy. Are there other members uh, wishing to address the amendment, gentleman from Maryland is recognized.

Thank you very much. Um, look I appreciate the comments. The fact of the matter is, is, you know, this committee knows for years I've been saying we have to stop the federal government subsidizing junk food. Now I went to add it through the SNAP program. But yes, these companies depend for the profits they get from those SNAP beverages, sweetened beverages that are sold and subsidized by the federal government. I'm not sure. But I'm glad we're talking about it. I'm glad we're talking about

Talking about.

getting our children healthy food and not sending any messages from the government that, contrary to that. And I think that's what we've been doing over the years. So I wanna, I wa- you know, I wanna thank the general manager for bringing the topic up. We have to talk about it. Is this, you know, this is titled junk food, but then it gets into a lot of other things. If it had been just about junk food, I might have bought into this.

And gentlemen, are there other members wishing to address the amendment? If there's no further debate, then I'd recognize the gentlelady for one minute to close.

I think all of them. Go for it.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This amendment is simple. Uh, we've gotta bring transparency to the food marketed to our children and, uh, respectfully. to chairman joyce uh this is not about obama era nutrition data it is about junk food being marketed to our children um it it also directs the ftc to to update their report and then publish it because our country's childhood obesity crisis continues to get worse and it has deteriorated since the riders first inclusion over a decade ago chairman harris and i have have discussed this issue over the years and

mmm

to working with you on this, you know, even beyond this amendment. Our children are not piggy banks for the processed food industry to exploit at the expense of their health and well-being. Parents deserve to know what's in the food their children are eating and that is being marketed to them. They also deserve to know if these foods are filled with harmful substances like microplastics and pesticides. If we truly want to make Amer- America healthy again and keep America healthy, it starts with our children. It starts with prevention and it starts with full unbridled transparency. The Federal Trade Commission must be allowed to release the update them, and release the findings of the inter-agency working group to protect the health and future of this country. I urge a yes vote. And, I wanna just underscore that it starts at the youngest stage of children's lives. If they start life obese,

They just don't.

it is a vexing, difficult challenge and obstacle that is in the way of that child for, likely the rest of their life. And we have an opportunity to take steps towards eliminating and reducing that unhealthy those unhealthy eating habits thank you so much i go back urge adoption

thank you general lady uh the question is now on the amendment offered by the general lady from florida all those in favor say aye

aye aye

paul is supposed to say no no painting to the chair that no's have it roll call has been requested sufficient number of hands have been raised the clerk will call the roll

roll call

and

mr. adderholt

no

mr. adderholt no mr. aguilar

aye

mr. aguilar aye mr. alfred mister alford no mister amadei

no

mister amadei no mrs. bice mister bishop

yes

mister bishop aye mister calvert mister calvert no mister carter

no no uh

mister case mr.

no

mister siskamani

no

mister siskamani no mister klein

no

mister klein no mister cloud

no no it's not

no it's right

mister kleiburn

yes

mister kleiburn aye mister klyde

no

mister clyde no mister cole

no

uh no

mister cole no mister quayar miss dean

aye

miss dean aye mister loro mister loro aye mister diaz-ballart

aye no mmm

mister diaz-ballart no mister edwards mister lz mister lz no miss eskabar mister espayat

yes

mister espayat aye mister fleischmann

no

no miss frankel

aye

miss frankel aye mr. franklin

no

mr. franklin no mr. guest mr. harder

aye

mr. harder aye dr. harris mrs. hinson mrs. hinson no mr. hoyer

aye

mr. hoyer aye mr. ivy

aye

mr. ivy aye mr. joyce

no

mr. joyce no miss captor

no

mr. lolota

no

mr. lolota no miss

aye

miss lee aye miss letlow

aye

mister levin

aye

mister levin aye miss molloi

no

miss molloi no miss mccollum

aye

miss mccollum aye miss ming

aye

miss ming aye mr. molinar mr. molinar no mr. moore

no no should we do mr. moore oh

mister morelli

aye

mister morelli aye mr. mervan

so this is for clinton

mister newhouse

or oh

mister newhouse no miss perez miss perez aye miss pinkley

aye

miss pingree aye mr. pokan mr. pokan aye mr. quigley

mmm aye

mr. rassenthaler mr. rogers

no

mr. rogers no mr. rutherford

no

mr. rutherford no mr. simpson

no

mr. simpson no mr. strong

no

mr. strong no mrs. torres mrs. torres aye miss underwood miss underwood aye mr. valadeo

uh

miss wasterman schultz miss Wasserman-schultz aye miss Watson- Coleman

aye

miss Watson- Coleman aye mr. Womack mr. Womack no mr. Zinke

oh come on

mr. Zinke no mr. Shreve mr. Shreve no

no no of course not

does any member wish to record their vote or change their vote gentlemen from west virginia

no i would record

i do not believe gentleman is recorded

no no

mr. Moore no

a gentleman from north carolina

i'd like to be recorded though no i i would record

mr. Edwards no

gentleman from texas

no

mister carter no

gentleman from hawaii

yes

mister case aye

gentleman from indiana

yes

mister murvan aye

gentleman from pennsylvania

mr. jerry if you can record me

mister russenthaler no

are there other members wishing to record or change their vote gentlelady from oklahoma

missus bias votes no

ok

are there any other members wishing to record a chance or vote seeing none the clerk will tally on this vote the ayes are twenty four the no's are thirty the amendment is not adopted mmm little lady from maine miss tingery is recognized for the purpose of an amendment

mmm i would like to And move to dispense with the reading.

Without objection, the reading of the amendment is dispensed with, and the gentlelady is recognized for remarks on her amendment.

Thank you very much, Mister Chair. My uh amendment also has to do with the release of a report. So I hope that we can come to an agreement on what is a very simple release of a report. And this amendment is about preserving our history, and I know there are many people in the room who care deeply about the history of this country. and particularly that history that is located here in washington many of us walk or drive past the william j cohen federal building every single day it's right below the hhs building here on independence and it is currently home to the voice of america i bet many of you don't realize that it is the home of some of the most significant public art in american history as part of the new deal several federal programs paid artists to create works reflecting American life. It was right after uh the end of the depression, and it was an important way to preserve our history and also to help put people back to work. The Cohen building is home to so many masterpieces that were funded by this program. It's often called the Sistine Chapel of the New Deal. Murals in there have been created by such influential painters as Ben Shon, Seymour Fogel, Philip Guston. But here's the problem. This administration has put the Cohen building on a These murals cannot be removed. They're painted directly on the walls integral to the structure of the building. And there are many, many people very concerned that a developer will come in with this prime real estate, tear it down two blocks from the capital, demolish that building, including the priceless art inside. But it doesn't have to be this way. Before the Cohen building went on sale, GSA did a feasibility study for what a renovation of the building could look like Once again, this study is taxpayer funded. It was done by federal employees, and it was completed in January of twenty twenty five. But since then, its release has been prohibited. No one has seen it, despite numerous requests, including from members of Congress. So my simple amendment just says to GSA, please release the study. Give us that opportunity to see how we can best preserve these murals. Everyone, including many outside parties, would benefit from seeing what experts at gsc think is possible to do with this building. i hope you will consider supporting this amendment and i hope as you do so you will also think about some of the things we've witnessed in the last year and a half. i won't make any comments about this administration because the administration and i may have slight differences on what we think is good taste or what should be done with historical buildings but just ask yourselves you don't have to answer this out loud but when you heard that the east wing of the white house had been torn down almost overnight before you'd even heard about it didn't you feel a little bit bad that no one consulted members of congress no one consulted any agencies about what should be preserved or what was in there didn't you feel a little bad that you wouldn't get to walk down those steps again like you had for so many christmas parties bringing your family in there looking at the decorations it suddenly it was just gone and that no one consulted you about the ballroom plans that will be built there next didn't you feel a little when you saw that the kennedy center suddenly had a name change and that we don't know exactly how that building will be renovated or the potential plans to paint the old executive office building white or build a massive arch in the entrance to washington d c these are big complicated projects that are being done or proposed without the consultation of congress and don't you feel like we should take a little more responsibility for the art in the history that is being changed without our say as co-equal So this is an opportunity to just ask the administration to release a study before yet one more historic site is transformed, one more set of beautiful art is lost to everyone, that piece of our history no longer is preserved. All you have to do is vote yes and say, just preserve, uh, just release this report. We may choose not to preserve this building. We may choose to put it back on the market. But at least we will know what, gee, a with taxpayer dollars thought was the best thing to do and how to best preserve these murals before they are gone to everyone forever so i urge a yes vote on this and i yield back my time

thank general lady the gentleman from ohio mister joyce recognized to address the amendment

thank you mr. chairman i appreciate the gentleman's uh amendment but i oppose it colon building is one of the buildings recommended by public building reform board pbr b for disposal building has approximate two hundred million dollars in deferred maintenance is estimated the cost to modernize the building would cost over five hundred and ninety million the pr pbr b estimates that disposing of the building will save eight hundred and forty three million we need to make tough decisions now about what we can maintain in a cost effective way and to start the disposal process for those buildings such as coen that'll cost the taxpayer more in the long run for these reasons i oppose the amendment

Thank you gentlemen, the gentleman from Maryland, Mr. Hoyer is recognized to address the amendment.

Again.

As uh the gentlelady from Maine observes, here's a report prepared at taxpayer expense uh on how something could be done. Voted upon um passed uh and and this year the report's availability was stifled. I don't know what's in the report. I don't know what it says. It may say what the chairman said, uh, that, look, this is too expensive and, and we've gotta get rid of this building. However, what is wrong with seeing the report? What are you afraid of that we have the American people and the Appropriations Committee? This is under our jurisdiction, Mr. Chairman. We haven't had a single hearing. GSA has not been up here. What are we afraid of, ladies and gentlemen? It's a report, it's prepared. This is not about spending more money for another report. It's done. And we continue, apparently, along the along the path of cover-up. Again, I don't know what's in the report. I don't have no idea. It may say The building ought to be torn down. We ought do it tomorrow. The one of the articles that I said that the information on uh the removing the West Wing of of the White House, excuse me, the East Wing of the White House West Wing might not be a bad idea, just temporarily.

Oh.

Uh The fact of the matter is that the President knew two before he tore down, he singly, solely, alone tore down a substantial portion of the White House without any consultation. Aren't we offended by that? It is not Mar-a-Lago North. It is the White House, the people's house. And yet we put our head in the sand and say, " Well, Trump wanted to do it and he's doing with a private sector money that is secret, not disclose who the donors are." Some have been disclosed apparently voluntarily. I just do not get it. Appropriations committee, if we wanna have any respect, not just this administration, the next administration, administrations after that. Then we will stop coddling this administration and the constituent agencies who refuse to give us information, refuse to testify, and uh uh we're in the dark. Is that what we wanna be as an appropriations committee? We lament, oh well they're not paying attention to us, of course they're not paying attention to us. They have no consequences of not paying attention to us this this lady's the general woman from maine offers an amendment which is again saying we have a report we'd like to have the information and we're saying oh no we don't want the information can there be any conclusion other than we don't want the public to have the information i urge support of this amendment

nice gentlemen the gentlelady from pennsylvania must deem it recognized to address the amendment

thank you

mr. chairman and i too rise in support of the pingree amendment uh again it is simply to release the paid-for by taxpayer study about this building uh i wonder in god's name why would you not want that to happen why do we authorize these studies taxpayers pay for these studies what are you hoping to cover up why don't you want to know what's in the report oh that's an interesting thought i commend to you take a look i went online to take a look at some of the artwork in this building i actually ask each of you to take a look it is extraordinary and i have to admit uh miss pingree i'll be going to the building soon if the if it's not shuttered uh because i wanna make sure i get my eyes on this historic, gorgeous artwork that tells of a time in our country, a time of extraordinary economic and political challenge. Why would we not wanna know what we could better do with this building? I'll end with this story, uh, in my district, uh, we had a horrific fire in a one hundred year old building. It was a really beat up building, to be very honest.

Hmm.

It was a building that for decades people worked uh, SPS technologies. They worked in this factory. Generations of people from my hometown worked in this factory. Uh, whether it was the World War Two war effort, uh, right through today, doing really important work. But the building was not something you would think much of. Horrific fire, fortunately no one was hurt. But do you know what the uh, manufacturer, the owner, in honor of this legacy of a hundred years of family after family after family having a career there they saved they tore the whole thing down because it was a total loss they saved signage that they could save and they saved bricks just out of respect for what had happened there for one hundred years and in the redesign of the rebuild which is magnificent they are reusing that old signage and that original brick. Unlike the East Wing, I don't know what was saved there. Can you imagine the history, what you could have done if you were going to repurpose, I remember the gorgeous floors, the gorgeous woodwork, so much there. Why not make sure we know what the report says about this building, and do everything in our power to make sure we do not lose the historic magnificent art i commend you go online take a look at the artwork it's amazing and it's american

well done

thank you gentlelady are there other members wishing to address the amendment seeing none the gentlelady uh from florida uh excuse me from maine is recognized for one minute to close

florida

everybody likes florida

it's a very big temperature difference We share an ocean. It's all good. Um. Thank you, Mister Chair.

Which is good.

And just one more time.

Wonderful.

I know I am in a room full of people who care deeply about history. We work in history every day. We have the incredible privilege to be in the Capitol building nearly every day of our working lives as we're members of Congress. And we know how important it is to preserve the murals, the structure. I I see many of you, uh, proponents of the things that come before our committee, the Interior and Environment subcommittee. the battlefield monuments, the Smithsonian Museum, museums and libraries around the country, your local historical society, I know all of you care deeply about history. So to just blithely write off this huge part of American history, because we won't look at the study. And I understand Mister Joyce's point. This could be a very expensive building. Of course we've got deferred maintenance. Of course we haven't taken care of it. We're the federal government. We're Congress. We don't spend money.

thank you general lady the question is now on the amendment offered by the general lady

thank you uh

for all those in favor say aye

aye aye

all those opposed say no

no problem oh i's have it no

i think we should have it mmm mmm

say aye i's have it

the i's uh do have it

i's does

anybody requesting a vote

say no vote vote that's insufficient number no no problem

yeah

no don't break your hand

vote has been requested

not sufficient number i'm not gonna vote not enough ok

you will

not enough

and if you add two i mean if you add two oh not sufficient number so the chair will recount then it's a three uh it's not a very yeah there i think there is now sufficient number so

uh

uh of course there is um the recorded vote's been requested uh i vote i the sufficient number of hands have been raised and uh clerk will call the roll

mister adderhold

mmm they have to win every time

mister aguilar

i

mister aguilar aye mister alfred mister alfred no mister amaday mister amaday no mister spice miss mr bishop aye mr bishop aye mr calvert no mr calvert no mr carter no no mr carter no mr case mr bishop mr syskemani ok yes mr klein no mr klein no mr cloud no mr cloud no mr kleibern

uh

mr kleibern aye mr kleid negative mr kleid no mr kohl

no

no mr kohl no mr quayar mr quayar aye miss dean miss dean aye miss delauro mr. laro aye mr. diaz-ballart

no

mr. diaz-ballart no mr. edwards ok

oh wow

mr. edwards no mr. lz no miss escobar no

no he could have went with the word for for all the names but it's the

mr. espayat

no i read it wrong

mr. espayat

no

mr. espayat aye mr. fleishman mr. fleishman no miss frankl i will give it a five

no it's no it's

uh frankl oh yeah but the i

it's frankl yes

miss miss frankl aye mr. franklin

no

mr. franklin no mr. guest mr. harter

aye

mr. harter aye dr. harris

talk about the

mrs. hinson

yeah

mrs. hinson no mr. hoyer

aye

mr. hoyer aye mr. ivy

aye

mr. ivy aye mr. joyce

oh yeah no

mr. joyce no miss captor

miss levin aye

miss captor aye mr. lolota

no

mr. lolota no miss lee miss lee aye miss letlow

malo

mr. levin

aye

mr. levin aye miss malloy miss malloy no no so i'm gonna go with i miss mccollum aye miss ming am

i'm sure

yeah miss ming aye mr. molinar no no mr. molinar no mr. moore no no no oh damn it oh mr. moore no mr. morelli no no aye mr. morelli aye mr. murvan no no

ok

aye mr. murvan aye mr. newhouse no mr. newhouse no miss perez aye i no miss perez aye miss pingree yeah you need an excuse no no miss pingree aye mr. pokan how would you feel if mr. pokan aye mr. quigley mr. quigley aye mr. reichenthaler mr. reichenthaler no mr. rogers uh i'm not sure if you want me to say my name mr. rogers no mr. rutherford mr. rutherford no mr. simpson

aye

mr. simpson you said mr. rogers we have more people than one aye mr. strong no no way i think mr. strong no mrs. torres ok

aye

good mrs. torres aye miss underwood

aye

miss underwood aye mr. valadao no no mr. valadao no miss wastermann schultz

aye

miss wastermann schultz aye mrs. watson coleman that's a good one

aye

mrs. watson coleman aye mr. womack we have more people than one

well done

mr. womack no mr. zinke so we have to have more people than one mr. zinke aye mr. schrie mr. schrieve sorry i'm sorry mr. schrieve no i'm sorry my federal responsibility

uh let's see sorry i was uh the meeting end is wishing to uh

need to recognize

record or change their vote uh gentleman from arizona he's lobbying for me as well

mr. syskemani votes no

gentleman from alabama that's really bad oh no

mr. adderhall no

gentleman from maryland gentleman from hawaii

aye

mister case aye

are there other members wishing to change or record their vote

gentlemen from the vice

missus bryan

uh general lady from oklahoma

missus bryan's vote's no

there are others seeing none

the clerk will tell us wait a minute

uh as gentlemen recorded i i ok yeah but but this i'm just saying that for can be only maybe one or two person

people are writing to you

that's what i want to do uh-huh that's true

let me chat with them

on this vote the ayes are twenty nine the no's are thirty one and the amendment is not adopted

second i'm just i'm just

a gentleman uh from wisconsin mister buchan is recognized for the purpose of an amendment

great thank you mr. chair i have an amendment at the desk and i ask that it be considered read

without objection the reading of the amendment is dispensed with and the gentleman is recognized for remarks on his amendment

thank you mr. chairman um this is actually a pretty straightforward amendment it's saying that until russ votes the director of omb comes before the full committee uh that we would withhold seventy percent of the funds um we did try to negotiate in the manager's amendment what we did in the mil con which was twenty five percent to have come before the committee that wasn't agreed to and and maybe it's better because in some ways we can have this full debate uh this is pretty unprecedented times where we have an executive branch and again this isn't team red team blue democrat versus republican we have an executive branch taking away the funds that congress has approved us both of us our institution uh has approved whether it's impounding and i kind of hate that term cause it's so insider washington stealing the funds canceling funds that we have through the process we have approved which is what makes the appropriations committee relevant right because we approve the bills and then congress approves the spending and if one branch of government that doesn't have that authority according to the constitution does that uh then we are uh at a disadvantage in fact this entire process is more about fantasy congress. than real congress. because we spent ninety three hours last year by the way in this room with each other. marking up bills and then if the executive branch just steals the funds. uh well that takes away our status as a co-equal branch of government. and it's reason i wanna have you for the full committee is because these are unprecedented times. it's not just fsgg where we have the problem him not coming in front and talking about budgets that come before us but literally it's every single one of our twelve bills there have been funds that have been canceled delayed uh or just outright stolen including think about the last budget bill we passed unanimously milcon they stole twenty billion dollars in funds throughout the va for sixteen thousand contracts for services go down each of our bills eggs many but one billion in local food purchasing assistance cjs impounded or delayed uh funding for NOAA for violence against women grants energy and water twenty four projects for three point seven billion for clean energy uh dhs uh homeland security uh previously impounded but again why why do they previously impound don't we have those questions we should be curious enough five billion for disaster recovery money cancelled in interior nea money epa money uh in labor health and human services uh liheb money and community service block grant money either delayed or impounded you could just go down the list of what's out here we also had uh headstart money nih samsa milcon i talked about uh national security state has six hundred million dollars for vaccines around the world polio vaccines literally uh taking two years worth of funding not being released by a different branch of government after we've approved it as congress and tihad uh some money around uh the ev charging grant clawbacks uh that were cancelled so what this is really about is whether we as congress not as democrats not as republicans but are willing to stand up for our powers otherwise why do we spend ninety three hours to i love you some of you um most of you but ninety three hours is a lot of time to spend together to then have another branch of government to steal impound cancel delay our funds um so all i'm saying is let's withhold funding until we have him come before all of us cause in a way i mean we have five minutes in fsgg i could ask five minutes just about fsgg but there's a lot of other things that they're doing that we need to figure out and i i just think this is one where it's pretty much down to whether or not we are gonna stand up for congress or not don't forget in the future president ocasio cortez could do things that you may not like but if they're stealing the funding that you approved and we approved together then we should stand up to that but if we set the precedent that this is the new way congress is gonna be treated then as an institutionalist what are we right we we merely suggest this is a suggestion committee that's not what the constitution says then we should change the constitution but rather than change the constitution we could just make sure that the appropriate person this is still happening you know year ago i had a record number of calls three hundred calls a day we got to five hundred calls a day when they were taking funds they're still taking the funds we just don't have elon musk