Summary
- The committee marked up H.R. 8210 to reauthorize WIOA, with Tim Walberg offering a substitute amendment and postponing recorded votes on Democratic amendments.
- No outside witnesses testified, but members highlighted provisions expanding short-term training, employer partnerships, apprenticeship degrees, and new AI-driven credential marketplaces.
- Robert Scott pressed Tim Walberg on transferring Title II adult education to Labor, citing loss of literacy expertise, while Walberg defended state flexibility and federalism.
- Republicans and Democrats agreed WIOA needs modernization but split over moving adult education to Labor, expanding block grants to ten states, and cutting authorization four percent.
- The partisan substitute faces doubtful Senate prospects, leaving workforce reauthorization stalled while postponed roll-call votes and further negotiations will determine next steps.
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Transcript
The committee will please come to order. A quorum is present, the uh committee meets today pursuant to notice to consider one bill. The chair announces that requests for recorded votes may be postponed pursuant clause two of rule eleven of the rules of the House of Representatives and committee rule fourteen B. Without objection, the chair may recess the committee at any point. Before we move any further, I would like to welcome back Representative Kevin Kiley to the committee. Without objection, his assignments once again as chair and member of the subcommittee on early childhood elementary and secondary education and as a member of the subcommittee on higher education and workforce development shall be approved.
Mr. Chairman, I'd just like to point out that we missed him. Good to have you. Mister Chair, Mister Ranking Member, uh, very much appreciated. Look forward to continuing our mission of assuring every child in this country access to an excellent education.
Well, thank you. That's our purposes as well here. He has served in these roles with distinction, and we look forward to his contributions to the committee's work. Today we're considering a stronger Workforce for America Act of twenty twenty six. Legislation to reauthorize the Workforce Innovation and Opportunity Act, or WIOA, the primary federal law governing our nation's workforce development system. Each year this system serves millions of Americans, helping connect workers to jobs and employers to the talent they need. But the system is not working as well as it should. Too often, it's fragmented, overly bureaucratic, and disconnected from the needs of today's economy. Employers struggle to find skilled workers, while too many individuals remain stuck in programs that do not lead to real job opportunities. That's why this reauthorization effort is so important. This bill takes a practical, targeted approach to modernizing our workforce system, focused on improving outcomes for workers, strengthening our economy, and ensuring accountability for taxpayer dollars. At its core, the bill gives states more flexibility to innovate, and respond to the needs of their workers and employers, while holding them accountable for the results. It expands access to high-quality, short-term training that is directly connected to in-demand jobs, so more individuals can gain skills that lead directly to employment. It also strengthens employer engagement by supporting partnerships, working work-based learning, and upskilling efforts that are tied to real job opportunities. not theoretical ones. At the same time, the bill begins to modernize how the workforce system operates by improving data to and tools so uh uh so workers can better understand the value of credentials and connect more effectively to available jobs. And as our economy evolves, this bill supports engagement with emerging technologies, including artificial intelligence, to ensure workers are prepared for the jobs of the future and find themselves in places to be used. Just as importantly, it places a stronger focus on outcomes. It measures success by whether individuals are getting jobs,
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keeping jobs, and increasing their earnings. This bill also takes an important step to better align our workforce and educational systems. It formalizes the inter-agency agreement by moving responsibility for adult education under title uh two to the department of labor. This builds on work that is already underway and helps reduce fragmentation by bringing adult education closer to workforce programs to make it easier for individuals to move from basic s- skills to training to employment, with a more coordinated system. Well, I'm disappointed that our Democrat colleagues chose not to continue bipartisan process uh from last Congress or engage on any of the other reforms in the bill, the need to prepare workers and learners for the future is too urgent to do nothing. We choose uh uh chose to keep what works from the prior reauthorization effort, move forward, and deliver results. At the end of the day, the choice before us is simple. We can defend our outdated status quo. or we can take meaningful steps to modernize our workforce system and improve outcomes for workers and employers. We choose to act. I urge my colleagues to support the bill. With that, I yield to the ranking member, the gentleman from Virginia, Mister Scott, for his opening statement.
Thank you, Mister Chairman. Uh, Mister Chairman, you just mentioned the bipartisan bicameral agreement from last year. Last Congress former chair of Virginia Fox and I worked very hard to find common ground and negotiate a bipartisan reauthorization of the Workforce Innovation and Opportunity Act. That bill was reported from this committee by on a vote of forty-one, excuse me, forty-four to one and passed the House on a vote of three hundred and seventy-eight to twenty-six. We then worked with our Senate counterparts and reached a bipartisan bicameral agreement that was on the verge of becoming law, the end of twenty twenty four but at the last minute the agreement was pulled from the end of the year spending package after it was publicly misrepresented by uh elon musk despite that disappointment it was my hope that we could come back together and take that uh bipartisan foundation and pass this important bill for the american people. instead here we are considering hr eighty two ten the a stronger workforce for Act of twenty twenty six, a bill that shares the name of that bipartisan effort, but not its substance. It's disappointing that the bipartisan framework that was negotiated by Doctor Fox was not replicated in this bill. Instead of building on that framework, you've chosen to take the name of the bipartisan bill and poison it with a version of a bill that lacks consensus, and ensures that it will not advance in the Senate or ever become law in its current form. And c- under current law, for example, the Adult Education and Family Literacy Act, title two of WIOA, is administered by the Department of Education. That is intentional. These programs help adults build foundational skills where you can get a job skill, but you also learn reading, writing, math, English proficiency and earn a GED. These are not job skills, they are life skills. So if you're particularly job skill becomes obsolete and you have to seek a new job, your resume contains GED, demonstrating that you have mastered basic education. When you move this to uh the in the current we um we owe a reauthorization bill would move the adult education and family literacy programs to the Department of Labor, uh where you are likely to join a l- learn a job skill only. And that is a fundamental shift because adult Education is not just preparing someone for the next job, it's about equipping them for a lifetime of learning and full participation in our democracy. At the Department of Education, the focus is on building that foundation. At the Department of Labor, the focus is necessarily on just the next job. Both missions matter, but they're not interchangeable, and this is where the broader consensus becomes clear. A further H R eighty-two ten helps advance the idea of dismantling the Department of Education and by doing so reveals itself is needlessly partisan. Congress should be able to take should not be taking the next step to codify the administration's illegal actions to dismantle the department. It is also quite revealing that the administration's own twenty twenty seven budget proposal does not provide any funding for adult education and family literacy programs. Not at the Department
To respond briefly, it's just uh it it it again clarifies the issue that we believe in federalism.
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that we are giving the opportunity for our local school districts, our states, to pick up what they ought have be doing, what they should be doing, and what some states are doing aggressively for literacy and all of the other issues that go in alongside of job training. This is the federal uh access for job training. So it i- it is different, but it comes with a philosophy that we believe that better education takes place at the local level and at the state level than at the federal.
Well, I'll interpret that to say that the idea that there would not be any fund, any federal funding for adult education and family literacy was not an oversight, it was intentional. So I'm disappointed that HR twenty ten seeks to double the number of also seeks to double the number of states that can participate in a pilot program to block grant wheels funding and also reduce authorization by four percent. HR twenty ten redirects funds from employment services. which connects people to uh receiving unemployment insurance to job openings by providing them with career services and moves these funds to an untested credential program. The new untested program would provide funding to states to develop a new so-called talent marketplace, in which states could create a skills profile generator and credential repository that match a job seeker's skills to desired skills of an employer's job opening using artificial intelligence. Similar program in Alabama has not been fully evaluated, so its impact is not yet known. Further, the use of AI to match skills between a job seeker and employer has the potential of discriminating against some populations such as older workers. Mr. Chairman, the bill before us today represents a missed opportunity to engage in meaningful lawmaking effort a meaningful lawmaking effort, I understand that our staff has spoken to you about ways to bring this bill to fu- fruition, but efforts stalled due to disagreements about how to meet the demands of the Trump administration. I'm frustrated because this process did not have to result in partisan reauthorization. Last y- last Congress, the original, the Stronger Workforce for America Act had statements of support from more than one hundred and fifteen organizations across the ideological spectrum and workforce community. It is telling that we cannot say the same for this bill. At the same time when prices and unemployment arising, this committee had a real opportunity to advance a bipartisan bill that would strengthen our workforce system and deliver real results for workers and employers instead we're marking up legislation that walks away from that progress with no path for pa- passage in the Senate and for these reasons I cannot support uh H. R. eighty-two ten in its present form and urge my colleagues to oppose and rework this
I thank the gentlemen.
Mm.
Without objection, all other members who wish to insert written opening statements into the record may do so by submitting them to the committee clerk electronically by the end of the day today. Pursuant to House rules, a copy of the text to be marked up was made available to members and the public at least twenty-four hours in advance. The bill being marked up today shall be open to amendment at any point and the Chair will allow members to offer amendments in a manner not prohibited by the House or committee rules. Without objection, members who have more than one amendment to the bill and wish to offer their amendments unblock may do so. The committee will now proceed to consideration of Bill HR eighty-two ten for amendment. The bill was circulated in advance and printed copies are available. The clerk shall designate the bill.
H R eighty-two ten, a bill to reauthorize the Workforce Innovation and Opportunity Act.
Without objection, the first reading of the bill is dispensed with. Without objection, the bill will be considered as read and open for amendment at any point, and any amendment offered shall be considered as read. I have an amendment at the desk. The clerk shall designate the amendment in the nature of a substitute.
Amendment in the nature of a substitute to H R eighty-two ten, offered by Mister Wahlberg of Michigan,
Without objection, the amendment shall be considered original text for purposes of further amendment. The amendment and the nature of the substitute has already been distributed. I now recognize myself for five minutes to explain the amendment and the nature of a substitute. I'm proud to offer the amendment and the nature of a substitute to H. R. eighty-two ten, a stronger workforce for America Act of twenty twenty-six. A bill that will mother modernize our nation's workforce system and better align training with the needs of today's economy. My amendment makes technical edits to improve clarity and consistency in the bill text. This includes correcting formatting issues in section one nineteen, to properly structure the eligible training provider performance report, as well as fixing minor punctuation errors to ensure the legislation is clear. In addition to these technical changes, my amendment also target improvements to ensure that the high quality, earn and learn apprenticeship degree model is recognized within the WE OAO system. I would also like to take a moment to thank our members who introduced their workforce bills. Representative Allum, Baumgartner, Fox, McKenzie, Messmer, Owens, Stephanec, and Thompson. Many of the reforms and ideas in those bills are included in H R eighty-two ten. Today our workforce system is outed outdated, and too often fails to connect individuals with opportunities. While the Workforce Innovation and Opportunity Act delivers measurable results, fewer than half of participants receive training services, even though training is what derives what drives higher earnings and long-term employment success. At the same time, too much funding is directed away from skills development and toward administrative and tangent uh tendential uh functions, limiting the system's impact for both workers and employers. We know that when individuals gain in-demand skills, especially through work-based learning and employer partnerships, they are more likely to remain connected to the labor force, advance in their careers, and contribute to a stronger economy. But our current system does not consistently prioritize those outcomes. H. R. eighty-two ten addresses these challenges by focusing the workforce system on what works. The bill increases resources available for training, expands employer-led pathways, removes silos, and better aligns programs with labor market demand. If the choice is between partisan talking points and fixing a system that isn't working, we choose to fix the system. This is a common sense,
This is Jim.
Uh, Uh, This is the gentle uh lady from North Carolina. Miss Adams wished to be recognized.
Yes, Mister, Mister Chairman, I'm gonna strike the last word.
You're recognized for five minutes.
Thank you, thank you, thank you, Mister Chairman. As everyone here knows, uh, we had a bipartisan deal on WIOA. We had a bipartisan deal on the reauthorization last Congress that was derailed by a tweet from Elon Musk. And as everyone here knows, this partisan reauthorization doesn't have a snowball's hell of chance of being signed into law as as I'm skeptical that it would even pass on the floor of the House, let alone the Senate. But my primary problem with this bill is that it that it moves title two from the Department of Education to the Department of Labor. Uh and I'll have plenty of time to talk about my issues with with title two later, uh but I do want to take a few minutes to talk about some other changes. Uh I've um I'm I'm having a hard time understanding why my colleagues decided to to cut discretionary spending on workforce development by four percent compared to our bipartisan deal last Congress. And as everyone in this room knows, we already spend far too little on ensuring that that workers have the skills that they need to succeed. Federal investment in workforce development has fallen by two thirds in the last forty years. So why do my colleagues want to cut it even further? Well, maybe because they think The economy is already strong. Uh, monthly growth, uh, job growth is slow. Inflation is high. And the labor force participation rate is decreasing. Wage growth is slow, and unemployment duration is increasing. But there's one hopeful statistic for my colleagues on the other side of the aisle. Uh, the employment rate, the unemployment rate. It's currently only four point three percent. But it doesn't show the full picture. Because I think we need to to take a closer look at that number to see why a strong bipartisan WIOA reauthorization is critical for the current moment. What we in this committee should really be focusing on is not raw unemployment figures but the quality of jobs and let's say I've been laid off from my full-time job which by the way included health uh benefits retirement con contributions and a regular paid To pay my bills, I I pick up a a low-paid part-time job and I drive for Uber or DoorDash, uh, to further supplement my income. Of course, I'm worse off than I was before. My hourly pay is lower. I work just about as many hours as I did before being laid off, and I have no real benefits to speak of. But the unemployment rate still stays the same. This is strikingly co- uh co- common situation. According to a report from Goldman Sachs, around twenty percent of people who lost their jobs loo- took a pay cut or had their hours reduced on gig work and at the same time a report from Jobs for the Future shows that that sixty percent of workers lack quality jobs so the unemployment rate may be low but so is the quality of jobs there's a job quality crisis in this country. And we cannot afford to reduce spending on workforce development. We owe our programs give countless Americans opportunities to learn the skills that they need, not only find a job, but a good job, a job with benefits, with with paid time off, with a retirement program. This crisis demands both solutions and this bill's funding levels fail to meet the moment. The author of this reintroduction also seems more concerned with removing words that might be viewed as by the president than by than creating a a workable reauthorization. But this bill removes any mention of historically black colleges, minority serving institutions, tribal colleges, and universities as potential participants in workforce boards. It also gets rid of the term opportunity youth and returns to the older term out of school youth. Individuals experiencing homelessness are are now homeless individuals and justice involved individuals are now ex-offensives. And I swear if the majority had spent as much time negotiating with us as they spent purging this bill of words uh that they think are woke, we might have a bipartisan deal by now. It really is a shame that the majority abandoned bipartisan compromise. The twenty twenty four ISWA was a good bill, a bill that I was proud to support and almost all of you on the other side supported it as well. So instead of sticking with our deal, Republicans took a bi- a partisan approach that is doomed to fail.
I thank the gentlelady. Does the Gentlemen from Florida, Mister Allen, seek to be recognized.
George.
Uh, George, excuse me.
George, yes. I'm close to Florida.
It's it's warm down there.
Yeah, um, hour and a half from Florida.
You're you're recognized for five minutes.
Thank you. Uh, you know, Mister Chairman, I listen, uh, to this and, uh, you know, we have thrown billions of dollars at this issue. And the reason we're here today is because it's not a spending issue, it's an accountability issue. I mean, um, it we're not holding the people ac- accountable. And uh so all these programs have uh, you know, uh like I said, uh we just had a a a rendition of what the the failures, uh particularly of the previous administration, uh and all the money that's thrown at this issue uh with no results. I mean we spend more in this nation on education than any other nation in the world. Yet, uh you know everywhere I go in my district, we're looking for qualified workers. And that's why I have uh uh introduced uh a Stronger Workforce for America Act of twenty twenty six. It's very common sense. It seeks to s- seeks to strengthen and increase connections to work for our nation's most vulnerable. And I'm proud that provisions from my bill that validate validate prior learning to accelerate employment act, are included in this package as well as language around entrepreneurial skills development which has great potential in this country. My bills are built on simple but important beliefs. I'm listening to my constituents. Learning doesn't only happen in the classroom. And our workforce system should recognize the full range of skills individuals already have. Too often qualified workers are overlooked because they are they lack a formal degree, even when they have years of relevant experience from work, military service, or other training. The best superintendent I had in my construction business had a sixth grade education, but the guy could fix anything. These provisions help fix that by improving how the workforce system identifies and validates prior learning and existing skills. They strengthen collaboration between workforce uh boards, employers, and education providers to ensure assessments reflect the skills that are in demand in today's economy. The bill also integrates these assessments into local workforce services, so job seekers can receive credit or credentials for the skills they already possess. This allows workers to move more quickly, quickly into employment or advance in their careers without having to start from scratch. At the same time, it supports employers by making it easier to identify qualified candidates and move towards skill-based hiring rather than relying solely on degree requirements. These reforms help reduce barriers to employment, expand opportunity, and better align our workforce system with how people actually learn and work. You know, i- i- you know, when we're talking about, uh, uh, the tweet by Let me tell you something. There was so much fraud, waste, and abuse in the dollars that this government was spending, particularly in workforce development, and that's exactly why he said, hold the phone. We're throwing this money away. We're not getting results. There is no accountability. There are checks going out without characterization. They don't know who approved them. And they don't know why the people were receiving them, because they weren't doing anything. Kinda like the daycare centers in Minnesota. My goodness folks, it is time to deal with this problem. I'm happy to see my bill language reflected in this reauthorization effort, and I urge my colleagues to support and I yield back.
I thank the gentlemen, now I recognize the gentlelady from Georgia, who does big math.
Thank you, Mister Chair. Thank you so much. Um, I wish to speak on the amendment and the nature of substitute.
You're recognized for five minutes.
Thank you. Well, I am excited at the prospect of Congress' doing more to support every American's ability to get a good job and to keep it, we have been down this road before. The original stronger Workforce for America Act should have been signed into law over a year ago in December of twenty twenty four. There is nothing efficient about delaying bipartisan legislation that the House and the Senate have spent the better half of a decade negotiating, only to kick the can to next year or next Congress. It happens over and over again here on the Hill, and it's exactly why the American people have become convinced that nothing to make their lives better ever gets done here in Washington. It's an excuse that Congress affords itself because the members taking these votes can afford to wait. But the mom or the dad that is working two jobs just can't survive the wait any longer. The people across our who will never have the chance to go to college, still need a way to provide a decent life for themselves and for their families. It has become too expensive, difficult, and time-consuming for Americans to get the skills that they need to get a good job and to keep it. But instead of doing anything about it, we are back here debating the third or fourth version of this bill to be taken up by this over the seven plus years that I have been here in Congress. And for what? As written, this version of the ne- of the text will not pass the Senate, as it has been expressed. It may not even make it past the House floor, given the numbers. House Republicans are taking a bill that passed three hundred and seventy-eight to twenty-six under their previous majority and attaching things to it, that will make it impossible now for it to be signed. It's truly a missed opportunity because this bill has a lot of great things in it. It is remarkably close to the bill that most of the members of this committee voted for last Congress. It includes my legislation, the Train Act, to improve and codify the strengthening community colleges' training grant that provides tens of millions of dollars to technical schools around the country to connect graduates with jobs in sectors like AI, and health. It would define key terms like learning and employment records and credential registries for the first time and help state workforce agencies communicate and collaborate more effectively. These are huge priorities for the members of this committee from both parties, but would also permanently dismantle the Department of Education. Dismantling the Department of Education is not something that elect elected Democrats or the American people support. Families in Georgia, where I represent, have seen what this really means for them. It means less money and fewer resources for their kids at school. It means teachers pulled out of special education classrooms in the middle of the year with no one willing to meet with the families or their students to explain why these things are happening. Tying those overwhelmingly support to try to sneak through something deeply unpopular and controversial is the definition of a poison pill. It's why most, if not every Democrat here today plans to vote against this version of the bill. American workers and employers need a system that is easy to navigate and works for them. I know that it is possible from the conversations with my staff and I that we continue to have with Republicans on this committee. I remain committed to to work and to find a bill that both sides will support by trying to but uh trying to uh attach something as deeply controversial as dismantling the Department of Education to what is supposed to be a bipartisan negotiation is movement in the wrong direction. This will be catastrophic. This majority is giving up on a bill that they support to try to chase their dream of getting rid of the Department of Education, and they risk and they risk getting neither. I yield.
I thank the gentlelady and I recognize the gentleman from Florida, Mister Fine. Do you wish to be recognized? Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for five minutes.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Um, I I was want to express my support of the ANS to a stronger workforce for America Act of twenty twenty six. And I'm gonna largely keep my comments to responding to a letter from the ranking member which he largely stuck to in his opening comments that urged opposition to the bill I I start though by saying that as a member of the Florida legislature that was responsible for education I dealt with a lot of workforce development stuff. Where we would get these federal funds, they would fund these kind of buildings and staffs and all of these things. But when it actually came to my constituents making use of the resources, they rarely could do so. It was a bureaucracy built, established, and created to what we actually heard described as the workforce industry. Well, the workforce industry ought to be focused on helping people get jobs, not creating buildings and that supposedly provide a wide variety of services. I would guess in my eight years that I served in the Florida House, less than a dozen people who came to our office asking for help were actually helped via the federal workforce programs despite the fact that the giant office that did that was less than two miles away from my office. This bill is intended to begin to fix some of that problem, yet what we hear is what I would consider naked political opposition. This, Our workforce system hasn't been meaningfully updated since twenty fourteen. It's outdated, it's fragmented, and in many cases it simply doesn't work. People are focused on systems, not outcomes. This bill aligns training with job demand, it strengthens employer partnerships, it expands apprenticeships, and it focuses on what matters, getting people skills that lead to work. It's not focused on where you get those, it's uh it's that you do. The overwhelming majority of the bill's provisions were championed by both parties. Last Congress passed through this committee But they're really opposed because of which agency funds ten percent of the bill. See, the Democrats are focused on org charts, not outcomes. They're focused on processes, not the people who are supposed to be affected. The fact of the matter is who cares what department does the work, as long as the work is done well and it is done effectively. They claim the bill's about dismantling education. It's not true. But the purpose of adult education education is not to have a K-twelve experience. The purpose of an adult education is to say that you failed to get the experience you were entitled to when you were offered K-twelve education, and now as a m- as a remedial exercise, we're going to fund for a second time your education so that you can now try to get a job. That's why these things should be moved. See, too many Americans are forced to navigate disconnected systems for literacy and pathways to work. This bill replaces fragmentation with a coordinated pathway. Connecting education to employment strengthens outcomes. It doesn't weaken them. Democrats raised concerns about flexibility for states, but this bill includes a limited accountable pilot, not a blank check. It maintains strong performance requirements tied to employment and earnings. Democrats voted for this concept last Congress. We've also heard complaints about a four percent spending cut. But what you don't hear about the fact is that Democrats agreed to this in the bipartisan FY twenty-six appropriations which were directed on putting more resources towards training and outcomes. Similarly, there's claims this bill redirects funds from employment services to a quote " untested credential program" and quote, it's misleading. The bill modernizes how we connect workers to jobs by supporting tools like learning and employment records in talent marketplaces approaches already being used by workers This is the choice before us. We can defend the status quo, be obsessed with systems and and organizations and bureaucracies, or we can focus on what will deliver results, which is helping people become productive members of our workforce. A vote against this bill is a bill is a vote against modernizing our workforce system, removing silos, and improving the outcomes for the very workers These programs are intended to serve. I'm here to help people, not here to help departments. I'm here to help people, not help bureaucracies. That's what all of us should be focused on doing, and that's why I will support the bill today. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
I thank the gentlemen. I recognize the gentlelady from Oregon, Miss Bonamici, for five minutes.
Uh, thank you m- very much, Mr. Chairman. I move to strike the last word and speak in opposition to the a- uh amendment in the nature of the substitute.
Your Reckonance.
Uh, thank you, Mr. Chairman. I've been working on the Workforce Innovation Opportunity Act, WIOA, for more than a decade. In fact, the first bill signing I attended as a member of Congress was the WIOA uh reauthorization in two thousand and fourteen. And I just went back and looked uh at the bipartisan support for that bill, which was widely considered to be Representative Fox's bill. It passed the House four hundred and fifteen to six. But today I'm deeply disappointed with the majority for abandoning the bipartisan agreement, we worked on and passed in the House last Congress with overwhelming bipartisan support. I'm grateful that several of my provisions, the Partners Act, the Builds Act, the Access Act, are included in this dra- in this uh amendment, but with even without changing the name of the bill, now the majority has made a major partisan change to the legislation. Now they are trying to push it through on what appears to be a party-line vote, and that's deeply disappointing. It undermines months of work, it erodes this committee's credibility, and importantly it disappoints our constituents who want us to work together, as we have in the past, as we did last Congress, as we did in twenty fourteen, and get things done on a bipartisan basis. And I'll start with this, and it is a serious concern, moving the Adult Education and Family Literacy Act programs to the Department of Labor is a profound mistake. And this would be true even absent the current dysfunction chaos and low morale at that agency. Does the Department of Labor have the expertise in teaching adult learners how to read? I doubt it. Does it have staff who know the best practices for basic numeracy or English language instruction? I doubt that, too. And despite the common misconception, education is not just job training. Education prepares students for independence, for citizenship, for critical thinking, for social interaction and personal growth. Moving these important programs to the department of Labor represents a fundamental misunderstanding of the broader goals of education, and it will have negative consequences in the short term and the long term. With this change, the bill represents a legislative step in the administration's goal of dismantling to the the Department of Education. That is why I will not support this bill, because I vehemently oppose the dismantling of the Department of Education. I work closely with many of you on this committee. On both sides of the aisle, I understand how deeply you care about education and the millions of students across the country, ninety percent of whom attend public schools. And I haven't spoken with anyone on either side of the aisle who denies that there are challenges and acknowledges that we need to do better for students. But I also know that the administration and many Republicans point to declining test scores and then claim that the Department of Education is the problem. It is not. Declining test scores aren't caused by a federal agency, they are caused as a As a result of a multitude of factors, chronic underfunding, I'll remind you that we have never fully funded IDEA, poverty, which makes title one funding even more important, and the growing and often harmful influence of social media, technology, and artificial intelligence. In fact, as the Cognitive Neuroscientist and Educator, Doctor Jared Cooney-Horvath said earlier this year in a US Senate hearing, the more digital technol- digital technology is implemented in schools, cognitive development declines. He testified that if you look at the NAEP scores in any state, when they developed one-to-one technology widely is when their NAEP scores started to decline. So, Mister Chairman, instead of discussing these re- real challenges and working how to solve them, this administration, added now by the majority and this bill, is trying to dismantle the very agency that should be doing the research and providing the funding to craft and implement solutions. They say that they are giving education back to the states. Of course, states and local school boards will continue to set curriculum, something about which we appear to agree. But many of us on this committee served in state legislators and know that states have neither the capacity nor the resources to do the scope of work and provide the size of investment we need. This does not bode well for the future, colleagues. We should be working together to strengthen public education, support students and teachers, and give every student the opportunity to succeed. Again, test scores didn't get worse because of the existence of the Department of Education. That's now how, not how cause and effect work. The Trump administration's illegal dismantling of the Department of Education is reprehensible, furthered by this bill, and I will note, not only harmful but unpopular. Polling consistently shows that about two thirds of American voters oppose eliminating the department. Our constituents do not want us to undermine the American commitment to public education
I thank the gentlelady. I r- recognize the gentlelady from North Carolina. the Chairman Emeritus on this committee, Miss Fox.
Thank you very much, Mister Chairman, uh and I thank you for um bringing this bill. I wanna uh to also um recognize the comments made by Mister Fein and Mister Allen about the focus in this bill on outcomes and skills and not on systems or bureaucracies. A stronger Workforce for America Act of twenty twenty six seeks to modernize and improve the country's outdated and inefficient workforce development system. And I'm proud that provisions from my bill, the Workforce Investments Accountability Act are included in this broader package. My bill focused on a simple idea. If we're investing billions of taxpayer dollars in workforce programs, we know whether they're actually helping people get jobs, increase their earnings and stay employed. The inclusion of these two provisions strengthens the larger package by ensuring the workforce system is held accountable for real outcomes, not just participation. It improves how we measure success by using employment, retention and earnings data, and by ensuring we're capturing whether individuals who receive skills education connected to real work opportunities. It also increases transparency by standardizing reporting and making performance data more accessible to workers employers and policy makers. These reforms help ensure that decisions are driven by data, not assumptions, and that programs are continuously improving based on what works. Importantly, a stronger workforce for America Act twenty twenty. also directs more funding towards skill development, requiring a greater share of resources to be invested in programming that leads directly to employment. Together these changes help modernize the workforce system and make it more responsive to both workers and employers. I'm happy to see this work reflected in the final package, and I urge my colleagues to support a stronger Workforce for America Act, of twenty twenty six. We desperately need to focus people on gaining the skills for the unfilled jobs in this country. I yield back.
I thank the channel lady. I now recognize the gentleman from Connecticut, Mister Courtney, for his five minutes.
Great. Thank you, um, uh, Mister Chairman, and, um, again, I wanna just sort of preface my remarks about the fact that, you know, roughly, um, I don't know, seventeen months ago, sixteen months ago, um we were on the cusp of enacting a a reauthorization as part of the uh uh budget uh agreement that was negotiated uh in december of twenty twenty four into january twenty twenty five and again i wanna um congratulate uh chair former chair uh fox uh and uh mister scott in terms of their efforts and staff and their senate counterparts in terms of um hammering out the language which uh i think you know there's universal agreement about how important it is to help people skill up um in terms of you know just the job openings that still exist uh in this economy um you know it was uh unfortunately um side tracked and and you know destroyed by the transition team that came in uh with the trump administration led by elon musk who uh basically you know infamously posted a picture of the package that was uh hammered out uh again between both parties and both chambers uh and called it a big slice of pork. And so as a result um you know rather than being at a place today where these measures would be in in operation and actually uh part of the federal statutes um we're at a place where we're having to start all over again, uh because the uh the incoming administration tanked um the the WIOA language, which again people put a lot of work in in the last congress uh to to get to the um, you know, compromise and balance that existed in in the in the bill. I, you know, personally I as a from a district that is a high WIOA user, uh with a shipyard that, um, you know, used the WIOA law starting in twenty sixteen to train up metal trades. We they just had their five s- thousandth graduate, uh for an uh a WIB program that, again, did it exactly the way we all wanna see, where the employer helped design a curriculum for um young adult education, ten weeks for a welder, eight weeks for an electrician, outside machinist, and again it has been just, you know, remarkably successful and we, again, should try and uh size up that sort of model and strengthen that model for all the reasons which uh um uh Mrs. Fox uh articulated and I'm sure other colleagues uh this morning have laid out but instead of just taking that clean bill which had support on both sides of the aisle what we're we're getting is uh WIOA with uh some brand new appendages uh which again it's just uh I'm sorry, you know they are those uh provisions are toxic measures which are gonna be part of this administration's crusade to dismantle the Department of Education in terms of shifting key programs like adult education out of uh the Department of Education along with others. And the chances of that ever passing in the US Senate are zero. I mean, let's be This is a this is a version of this law which completely mangles the hard work that was put in to negotiate a good we uh we owe a bill, which we were on the verge of passing if it wasn't for Elon Musk, uh and the the folks in the administration who um in my opinion just didn't even understand uh what they were looking at when um they came in to to the White House, now belatedly are starting to realize that is exactly what the employer community is looking for uh ins instead of just you know taking advantage of all the hard work that was done to get to the cusp of of passage of this legislation um as I said we're we're just sort of just kicking it away by loading up the bill with provisions which um everybody knows has zero chance of ever clearing in the senate so let's let's really you know get serious here and recognize the work that was done on a bipartisan basis in this committee and the hundred and eighteenth congress, and do what really is so important to our economy and listen to the customers of WIOA, which is the employer community who really want to see us, you know, in a very focused way address this issue so that, as I said, we can we can really, um, help them with their labor market needs, but also help individuals who will benefit from, um, the opportunity to skill up. and really create careers for themselves, not just sort of uh transitory jobs. Uh again, I will oppose this amendment in the nature of a substitute, um you know, really with great sadness in terms of the fact that we're we're really missing an opportunity to finish the job that we started uh last Congress. I yield back.
I thank the gentlemen. Now I recognize the gentleman from Utah, the uh Chairman of the Subcommittee on Higher Education and Workforce Training, Mister Owens.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I speak today in support of a stronger workforce for America. It's time we reauthorize rural water legislation that is critical to strengthening our economy and providing workforce opportunities for Americans. In addition to re- re-authoriz- re-or- re- re-or- re-authorizing s- much needed programs in rural water this legislation contains two of my bills that will help remove silos and get job seekers into the workforce faster. The first bill included in this package is H. R. eighty-one eighty-three, the Match Act, which defines terms such as talent marketplace and learning and employment records. It also permits way overfunding under the workforce data quality initiative to be used to create talent market marketplaces. The growth and adoption of interoperable talent marketplaces will revolutionize the the search for jobs and employees by making it easier for skilled workers to find work and opportunities they are seeking. The second bill is H. R. twenty-six fifty-one, which will create Make America Skilled Again grants, give states greater flexibility to tailor their workforce systems to local needs. Participating states are granted flexibility to restructure their workforce systems to meet the needs of the workers' and employers' while remai- while remaining accountable to performance outcomes. This means that workers will get the training they need for the in-demand occupations in their state and region. Ultimately, the re-organization of WIOR represents a promise to the American people for a brighter future and for more for more opportunities to find good work,
I thank the gentlemen. I now recognize the gentlelady from Connecticut, um, Miss Hayes, for five minutes.
Thank you, Mister Chair, I'm able to strike the last word.
You're recognized.
Today Republicans are offering a partisan bill that starts this process by codifying the Trump Administration's inter-agency agreements that transfer higher The Leaderless Department of Labor. This committee should be focused on expanding workforce opportunities rather than dismantling the Department of Education. The job market remains volatile since President Trump took office. While the Biden administration oversaw a record sixteen point one million jobs added during his first year in office, the current administration is overseeing the lowest rate of job creation in a non-recessionary year in over two decades. The Department of Bureau Statistics revised its figures in February to reflect that the Trump administration added a total of one hundred eighty-one thousand jobs last year representing just forty-nine thousand jobs added per month on average at the same time the job market is disproportionately impacting certain groups particularly young people. Data shows that an estimated four point two million youth or nearly one in seven meaning they are not engaged in school, training, or work. In Connecticut, the most recent data shows that nearly one in five fourteen to twenty-six year olds are either at risk or disconnected. Many of these youth have disabilities, are experiencing homelessness, or are involved in the ju- juvenile justice or child welfare systems. Further, only forty percent of these disconnected youth were employed by age twenty-two. Those were - those with jobs had medium wages of just about fourteen thousand dollars per year well below the level needed for economic independence in Connecticut, or any state for that matter. These young people are at risk of financial insecurity, homelessness, and incarceration. The youth programs in WIOA are key to reconnecting youth to education and employment and helping them realize a better future. But this bill today is not the version that we worked on together. Republicans have introduced a partisan version of the A Stronger Workforce for for America Act and that's what we're marking up here. This legislation does however include provisions from my bill, the Youth Build for the Future Act. The Youth Build for the Future Act makes several important updates to modernize and reauthorize the Youth Build program, one of the best programs in our country to equip young people with education, employment and leadership skills. The Youth Build program serves more than five thousand participants each year across more than forty states, helping them earn their high school diploma or equivalent while learning skills in high needed trades like construction, health care, information technology, and logistics. An estimated eighty-four percent of Youth Build participants nationwide obtained a high school diploma or equivalency. Forty-five percent went on to post-secondary education or jobs, with an average wage of over sixteen dollars per The Youth Youth Build for the Future Act would make several important updates to the program to allow youth build programs across the country, to serve greater numbers of opportunity youth. These youth build programs now have greater access to state wage data systems, making it easier to meet their reporting requirements and lessening the burden on program directors and participants to collect this information so that they can focus their attention on youth in need. Critically, Youth Bill programs will now be able to use their funds to pay for participant meals, providing uh nutrition security so participants can focus on education and career opportunities. I add this because not everything in this bill is bad. But the fact that it continues the process of dismantling the Department of Education is just something that I cannot overlook. All of these things are connected. And for that reason, I'll be voting no. And with that, I
I thank the gentlelady. Now I recognize the gentleman from Guam, Mister Moylan, for your five minutes.
Thank you, Mister Chairman. So, the bill updates WIOA uh to show our growing need that American workforce uh needs further education in digital and AI literacy. We gotta move into the twenty-first century, and H. R. eighty-two ten uh puts that up there. It upskills upskilling and preparing our nation's youth uh for, in the demand sectors and expanding our workforce-based opportunities. So the digital and AI literacy skills this bill supports is critical for developing workforce ready to face the twenty-first century. And Americans in the territories know all too well that we often are have to play catch up with these new and emerging emerging sectors. The bill before us today helps overcome these hurdles by including the territories in programs and ensuring we are part of the innovative, not the afterthought. So the bill supports rural and underserved areas. And recognizing the unique needs of rural and geographically isolated communities such as the territories, it's critical in a step to ensuring Americans have the opportunity to succeed. And Republicans are delivering on that promise through this bill. The bill also, uh, before us, fixes a long-standing issue. That's something really close to me, which is for Guam and along with the CNMI, American Samoa, American Samoa, and US Virgin Islands. We're uneligible or ineligible to receive funding for integrated English literacy and civic education programs under the current law. But section two three three for uh ensures the territories
I thank the gentleman. I recognize the gentleman from Virginia, the ranking member, Mister Scott, for five minutes.
Thank you, Mister Chairman. Mister Chairman, I'm in opposition to the amendment in each of the substitute. This makes the notice one noticeable change from the introduced version of the bill uh dividing defining the term apprenticeship degree I'm just certain concerned that the labor market has not yet figured out the exact utility of it quote apprenticeship degree and we should let apprenticeship intermediaries and institutions of higher education continue to innovate in this space before we actually intervene but actually the main issue in this uh ans isn't the one noticeable change from the it's what's remained the same, the unnecessary transfer of adult education programs from ed uh from the Department of Education to the Department of Labor. Department of Education has administered adult education programs for decades because they have the expertise required to implement these vital programs. To properly administer adult education programs you need subject matter experts implementing the required technical assistance for instructional delivery. and professional development for instructors as well as the requisite monitoring activities and the provision of guidance. These activities have been done by and are best suited for the Department of Education. Now, this just in my opinion the National Association of State Directors of Adult Education wrote a letter in opposition to this bill in its present form. These are the very people who are running the programs in our states. and we should take their word for it when they say things like, and I quote, "it is not clear that a transfer to the Department of Labor would provide the expertise and instructional practices or personal information protections that could continue uh the documented success of the currently administered federal adult education program. The current system reflects decades of experience in adult education, including specialized instructional methods, integration, and effective advising of s- effective advising systems tailored to adult learners." Close quote. And that's before, Mister Chairman, that you confessed that the elimination of any federal funding for adult education, uh neither in the Department of Education where it is, nor in the Department of Labor where they're trying to move it, you confessed that that was not an oversight, that it was intentional. So when the gentleman from Florida asks who cares which agency does the work, well the answer from those who do the work is that it does matter. Uh, I ask you now just consent that the letter be entered into the record.
Without objection and hearing none, it'll be entered.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Further, this uh amendment in nature of substitute would double the number of block granted states and remove any sensible restrictions that we were inclu included in
The gentleman yields. I now recognize the gentleman from Wisconsin, Mister Grothman, for the
Yeah, first of all, a couple of comments. Um, one of the reasons why we may have less jobs out there is our president inherited a situation in which we had about eight to ten million people in this country illegally. And as uh they are removed, which should happen as we try to enforce our law, there inevitably will be less jobs. Uh, secondly, it's been talked about some of the problems we have in the country, and it's never mentioned that a lot of these problems, including homelessness and what are tied to the complete breakdown of the family in which we penalize married couples about twenty five thousand dollars a year uh if you if you go from a a single parent um as the head of household to married parents as the head of household. And I don't think we can say we seriously care about the next generation, unless we do something about that. As far as this being a partisan bill, there's a provision I wanted in this bill that's not in the bill, because we want to make the Democrats happy, and I'd like in the future the Democrats to change their mind about that. I'm talking about what used to be called sheltered workshops, as we have uh handicapped people, maybe they have Down syndrome, uh something like that, and they traditionally have had places to work in which maybe uh less than minimum wage is paid but it gives these people a happiness and satisfaction that comes from work. I think the reason the Democrat Party, like to take this option away from people is because they don't know how enjoyable these jobs are for people like that and I would hope when we next have a BOA bill, maybe a year from now or two years from now or if this doesn't pass, even next year, that we have a little bit more sympathy for people who are working uh and have different abilities but they want the freedom to work where they want. They don't like that freedom taken away. We weren't able to move a bill like that this time around because we were told we wanted to get the Democrats on board but I I would like to ask the next time we have a WIOA bill up that there'll be a little bit more freedom of choice for those of us who have different abilities and um that we remember them that we don't just shove them out like they did a hundred years ago and say just because you have different abilities you can't have a job so I beg my Democrat colleagues to take some time and visit some of these sheltered workshops in Wisconsin. Think of RCS, lakeside packaging, Ascend, Northwoods, all these wonderful places where people with different different abilities work. And apparently the Democrat Party does not like to give these people options. Thank you.
I thank the gentlemen. I recognize the gentleman from Washington, Mister Baumgartner, for five minutes.
Well, thank you, Mister Chair. This is a, uh, very uh important effort to get people back to work and I appreciate the opportunity to say a few words about it uh as we seek to reauthorize the Workforce Innovation and Opportunity Act, otherwise known as WIOA. As we all know, the Workforce Innovation Opportunity Act is the federal government's primary assistance for unemployed and underemployed workers to get them connected with employment opportunities. Many people in our communities have been impacted by WIOA through interacting with their local job score programs and workforce councils. All told, about six billion dollars is allocated annually to these programs to get people back to work upskill workers and connect individuals to opportunity. The last time the Workforce Innovation Opportunity Act was updated was in twenty fourteen so this is an effort that is long overdue. It's about time that we come together as Congress in a bipartisan fashion hopefully, and pass this reauthorization bill to provide needed clarification and simplification of these programs what we have in front of us today would provide resources in a more targeted way to get our unemployed and disallocated workers the training and connections they need to re-enter the workforce and continue progressing with the skills they need to succeed. Uh, coupled with my bill, the Workforce Data Quality Initiative Act, we will have a more targeted, more efficient, and more informed employment training system. I'd appreciate the committee, uh, moving this forward. Uh, we gotta get more people off the couch, uh, less people sitting there watching TV and eating Cheetos, and more people back to work, and I think this bill does that. Thank you, Mr. Pr- Mr. Chair.
I thank the gentlemen. I recognize the gentleman from Indiana, Mister Messmer, for five minutes.
Uh, thank you, Chairman. Uh, too often workforce investments are spread too thinly or are not sufficiently aligned with areas facing the greatest workforce shortages. The Stronger Workforce for America Act establishes a critical industry skills fund to direct resources toward high demand industries and sectors critical to regional and national economic growth. This fund creates a targeted mechanism to support training strategies tied directly to labor market demand and needs of key industries. This provision strengthens the Workforce Innovation Opportunity Act, but encourage stronger uh stronger employment employer engagement, deeper sector partnerships, and more strategic investment in training that leads to in-demand jobs. It will help states and local workforce systems prioritize key sectors and build talent pipelines where workforce shortages are most acute. The fund also supports more core coordinated workforce planning, by aligning training resources with regional economic conditions, industry needs, and long-term growth opportunities. States and local areas will have the flexibility in how they design and implement these strategies, while ensuring a stronger for- focus on industry demand and employer-led solutions. In a workforce system designed by designed to prepare workers for real jobs, in the real economy, we must better target resources where they are needed most. I urge my colleague colleagues to support this bill and I yield back.
I thank the gentlemen. Are there any other members who wish to be recognized for further discussion on the amendment in the nature of a substitute? There being no further discussion on the amendment in the nature of a substitute the committee will move to consideration of amendments. Are there any members who would like to offer amendments?
That's right.
I am tempted to move on. Uh, I recognize the gentleman, the ranking member from Virginia, Mister Scott, uh, for what purposes do you seek to be recognized?
Mister Chairman, I Mister Chairman, I have an amendment at his desk. Scott underscore SAMD underscore O one.
The clerk will report the amendment.
Amendment to the amendment in the nature of a substitute
Does the gentleman from Utah wish to reserve a point of order?
Yes, I'd like to re- reserve a point of order.
A point of order is reserved. I now recognize the gentleman for Virginia, uh the ranking member, Mister Scott, for five minutes in support of his amendment.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, this substitute amendment would strike the underlying bill and replace it with the original bill that the House passed with an overwhelming bipartisan two years ago. So if it looks familiar, that's why it looks familiar, because people have already voted for it. This bipartisan bill, the original a stronger workforce for America Act was introduced by then Chair uh Fox and me. It was the product of months of bipartisan work. It was reported out of this committee on a vote of forty four to one. And on the floor it passed three hundred and seventy eight to twenty six. Um, ne- so nearly every member on the committee who was serving at that time has already voted in favor of it. So during the floor debate one member said quote, "The bill we are considering today strengthens the law to further fuel innovation for a skills-based economy. A stronger Workforce for America Act makes reforms to WIOA that will increase the amount of skills development provided under the law, strengthen connections between employers and workforce systems, and streamline bureaucracy. The bill also also gives governors a new tool to address economic priorities of their states, allowing them to set aside additional funds for a critical industry skills fund to help employers upskill hire and retain workers in priority industries. These critical reforms will equip America's workforce with the skills to succeed in a modern economy and I urge my colleagues to support this bipartisan legislation to build a stronger America. workforce." Close quote. That very eloquent statement may sound familiar, Mister Chairman, because it was an excerpt from a floor statement in support of the original bill that you made.
It's eloquent.
Eloquent. The bipartisan bill made many critical common sense updates that would modernize our workforce system like codification of the re-entry opportunity grants, increased funding for individual training accounts in summer and year-round employment for opportunity youth and gaining employment requirements for the state's eligible training provider list among others. Just as importantly many of the updates in that legislation and in this amendment are key Republican priorities including a new minimum training requirement, an update on how we designate workforce boards, and increased accountability through tightened performance requirements. And Unlike the underlying bill, my substitute amendment does not include two poison pills, one, the transfer of adult education programs to the Department of Labor, and the increase of block granted states. Now is our chance to do what we should have been done, should have done at the beginning of this Congress, and truly help employers and job seekers. Remember, Mister Chairman, what you said in April of twenty twenty four, let's approve this substitute amendment, And vote yes, and I yield back.
I thank the gentleman. Uh, does the gentleman from Utah insist on a point of order?
I withdraw my point of order.
The reservation is withdrawn. I now recognize recognize myself for five minutes. Um, I oppose this amendment. Even though my eloquent statement that was made in support of the bill in the last term of office I would still stand by in that term of office. As you know, and I think everybody on this committee knows, times change. Situations afford themselves that we didn't have before. Uh, almost everything that was stated that has been good, especially as we've talked about this ANS, the Democrat members have pointed out to all the good things that are in this particular bill. Why? Because it's what we put from their ideas in the last bill. And that's why this bill continues to be a an excellent bill that ought to be supported bipartisan again, but for the fact that we do have that policy change, that we are prioritizing workforce training by moving into the Department of Labor where it belongs, and where frankly it was done before the US Department of Education was put in order to spend three trillion dollars and produce inferior education from what was before. So I oppose this amendment. This amendment would take us backward by replacing a modernized forward-looking bill with a prior version that does not reflect today's workforce challenges, or the need for stronger program alignment. H. R. eighty-two ten builds on the twenty twenty-four effort, but makes targeted improvements to strengthen accountability, increase investment in training, and better connect workers to employment. Those improvements would be lost under this amendment. HRA eighty-two ten reflects updated priorities, including better use of data, stronger outcomes, and a system that is responsive to a rapidly changing economy shaped by new technologies and evolving workforce needs. Importantly, the bill also takes steps to better align education and workforce programs by formalizing coordination already exists in practice rather than maintaining a fragmented status quo. The majority made a good faith effort to negotiate and build on the bipartisan twenty twenty four framework, and I think you see that in the in the language of the bill. But negotiations ultimately broke down over a single provision that moves a program from one agency to another. This bill reflects that work and moves it forward. Simply reverting to a prior version, ignore both the progress made and the opportunity to meaningfully modernize the system. Uh, for these reasons, I urge opposition to the amendment and support for the underlying bill, and I yield back. Does anyone else seek recognition on the amendment? Seeing uh no others seeking recognition on the amendment, the question is, on the amendment,
Aye. Aye.
All opposed no, no. In the opinion of the chair, the no's have it and the amendment is not agreed to.
This gentleman. Ask for a recorder vote.
A recorder vote is requested. Pursuant to the chair's previous announcement, this vote will be postponed.
We're here.
Are there any further amendments to the amendment in the nature of a substitute to H R eighty-two ten?
Mm.
I recognize the gentleman from Virginia, Mr. Scott.
I have an am- Mr. Chairman, I have an amendment at the at the desk re- designated Scott underscore RA underscore Grant underscore AMD.
The clerk will report the amendment.
Amendment to the amendment in the nature of a substitute to H R eighty-two ten, offered by Mr. Scott of Virginia, identified
This is a gentleman from Utah. We should reserve a point of order. A point of order is reserved. I now recognize the gentleman for Virginia, the ranking member, Mister Scott, for five minutes in support of his amendment.
Thank you, Mister Chairman, uh, Mister Chairman, this is simple and hopefully non-controversial. Each year Congress appropriates funds to the Secretary of Labor for the purpose of developing and growing registered apprenticeship programs. This amendment would simply require the Department of Labor to award such funds through a competitive process. That means a process that's open, transparent, fair and competitive. Just last year, without any advance notice or competitive process, the Trump administration provided thirty-five point eight million dollars to the state of Arkansas to award funds to eligible enti- entities across the United States for growing registered apprenticeship programs. How did the Department of Labor choose Arkansas? So far can't get an answer. In fact, the National Public Radio reported that Arkansas didn't even apply for the program. DOL reportedly went directly to the state. And I ask your unanimous consent to enter this uh NPR report in the record.
Without objection, it will be entered.
Thank you. Uh, Mr. Chairman, why didn't the Department of Labor choose uh Commonwealth of Virginia? Or Michigan? Or any other state? shouldn't all of our states have had a chance to compete for these funds? And this amendment should not be controversial. During we owe our negotiations last Congress, our colleagues across the aisle frequently spoke about the importance of accountability. This amendment is about accountability, ensures that every state, as uh as well as f- the federal taxpayer, can see when and how federal dollars are being awarded. This amendment is is also not
Go back, please. Thank you, gentlemen. Thank you. Does the gentleman from Utah insist on a point of order? Point of order is withdrawn. I now recognize myself to speak to the amendment. I oppose this amendment uh because it is unnecessary and because there could be broader implications that we haven't fully thought through. The large majority of grants awarded by the Department of Labor under the National Apprenticeship Act are already being awarded on a competitive basis. DOL does have limited authority to award grants for multi-state or national projects to certain grantees on the basis that those grantees possess particular expertise to There is nothing improper about this. At the same time, this amendment could have negative unintended consequences. The amendment is not limited to grants awarded under the National Apprenticeship Act. It says that any grant awarded to support apprenticeships registered under the law or that law must be awarded competitively. This could have far larger implications than just the grants DOL awards under the National Apprenticeship Act. For example, what is the implication of this for registered apprenticeships supported by adult and dislocated worker formula funds under WIOA? It's not clear. Given that this amendment is unnecessary and that it could have unintended consequences, I urge my colleagues to reject it and focus on more pressing issues within our workforce development system IEO back. Are there others who wish to speak on this amendment? Being there are there are no others who wish to speak, uh the question is on the amendment by the gentleman uh from Virginia, the ranking member. All in favor say aye.
Aye.
All opposed no. No. In the opinion of the chair, the noes have it and the amendment is not agreed to.
There is a
Uh a a roll call vote is uh requested. Pursuant to the chair's previous announcement, this vote will be postponed. Are there any further
Mister Chairman. Adams.
Uh, for what purposes did the gentlelady from North Carolina, Miss Adams, wish to be recognized?
Thank you, Mister Chairman. I have an amendment at the desk. Um, Adams, A D E D O one.
The clerk will report the amendment.
Amendment to the amendment in the nature of a substitute to H R eighty two ten, offered by Miss Adams of North Carolina,
Does the gentleman from Utah wish to reserve a point of order?
I'd like to res- reserve a point of order.
A point of order is reserved. I now recognize the gentlelady from North Carolina, Miss Adams, for five minutes in support of her amendment.
Th- thank you, Mr. Chairman. Uh, this amendment would strike all of title two in the amendment, in the nature of a substitute, which transfers the authority of the Secretary of Education's to administer adult education programs to the secretary of labor and it replaces it with the bipartisan version of title two of WIOA which was passed on a bipartisan basis both in this committee and on the house floor. As we all know the changes made to title two are unworkable and sacrifice practically practicality for partnership partner partnership. Uh there's no uh world uh world in which a a WIOA reauthorization that moves title two to the Department of Labor, will pass in the Senate. I know it, the chairman knows it, and and just about everybody involved in the workforce development system, uh they know it as well. The inclusion of this language uh does not represent a a a thoughtful attempt at re- reauthorization, but rather another front in President Trump's war against the Department of Education. The section would codify an illegal inter-agency before the courts have time to catch up. As written, title two not only makes this bill impossible to pass, but it also reduces the quality of adult education programs. Adult education is not a job training program. It is an education program that is fundamentally about helping adults learn a foundational level of reading, writing, and math. The Department of Education fills a critical void in nation's workforce system by providing much needed expertise in adult literacy instructional delivery. This is not expertise the Department of Labor possesses, nor should it. There are fantastic civil servants at the Department of Labor who do excellent work, implementing the programs that match individuals with with with barriers to employment with employers in need of a skilled workforce. These programs on job related skills required by employers, not basic education like reading and writing, moving adult education to the Department of Labor with rich states, providers of adult literacy courses, and most importantly, adults themselves of the expertise education provides through technical assistance monitoring and guidance. I was really hopeful that the majority would stick to the bipartisan package negotiated last Congress and then I saw I also saw title two of this bill. I had to tell my workforce board, uh the North Carolina work f- in uh my workforce board, the North Carolina workforce system and and training providers that we owe a reauthorization will not pass in the one hundred and nineteen Congress. So if my colleagues on the other side of the aisle support this amendment, they might just make a liar out of me and I encourage them to do so. I I do hope that my colleagues on the other side will will reason, practicality, and compromise over blind hatred for the Department of Education, I urge all members to to vote for this amendment and Mr. Chairman I yield back.
I hear the reservations was was drawn. Um. Does anyone seek recognition for an amendment? With the purpose, yeah. Miss Miss Harris? What purpose does a gentleman from North Carolina uh seek recognition?
I'd speak
The gentleman is recognized for five minutes.
Yes, sir. Uh, thank you, Mr. Chairman. I oppose this amendment. Uh, right now adult education and workforce programs are split across agencies, creating unnecessary silos that make coordination more difficult and frankly outcomes weaker. This bill, uh, before us addresses that problem by moving adult education to the Department of Labor, really better aligning basic skills, job training, and employment outcomes. Just simply maintaining the status quo means continuing a system where education and jobs are disconnected. Furthermore, I would add that claims that the Title II alignment will be disruptive are overstated. The federal government already relies on inter-agency agreements to coordinate these efforts and the implementation to date frankly has has been smooth, uh demonstrating that better alignment can can really be achieved without disruption. This change simply formalizes what is already working. This is about creating a more integrated, effective system that better serves learners and workers. Furthermore, the bill before us made additional improvements to incorporate AI literacy into adult education and align it to work already being done at the Department of Labor. Our bill also ensures outlying areas are included in integrated English literacy and civics education.
Thank you. The question is on amendment.
No.
Oh, sorry, go ahead. We're still still in the race.
Yes. Does anyone else
Does anyone uh else seek recognition on this amendment? OK. You wanna speak?
Uh, I have an amendment under this, but I know we're still doing the appeal. Yeah. We have to.
Yes, would you mind? Uh, for what purpose does the General Lady like to
I'd
I'm not interested.
Oh, to ask for Scott?
like to speak, I'd like to speak to the amendment.
OK. Alright. Mm-hmm. Uh, it's recognized for five minutes.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Uh, Mr. Chairman, um, I'm in support of this amendment and would like to undo the misguided policy of moving the department, uh, the adult education from the Department of Education to the Department of Labor by striking all of the provisions and and H R eighty two ten that transfer those authorities from ed to labor. Adult education is not just a job training program, its fundamental purpose is to educate adults who need help in reading, writing and math. Having the ability to read and write allows a citizenry to consume information, critically think and participate both in community and family life. For many adult for many adult education is last opportunity to become literate, earn a GED, and learn the important skills needed to continue to educate oneself during adulthood. As millions of Americans struggle with rising costs in unemployment, Republicans have decided to co-opt a bipartisan training bill just to achieve just to achieve a policy of turning a vital education program into another short-term employment program, which we already have plenty of. A short-term programs work well for the next job. But if that job becomes obsolete, the - the uh worker must then find a new job, and the - has a resume that doesn't even include a GED. Uh we have um uh why would we do that to people? We have a program now that works well and we ought to continue it, not uh convert it into a short-term solution that uh doesn't serve the people well, need to find another job. Now this uh story is made worse by the fact that the Trump administration doesn't even wanna fund the program to begin with. In both fiscal year twenty twenty six and twenty twenty seven budgets, the administration proposed zeroing out funding for all programs authorized under the Adult Education and Family Literacy uh uh Literacy Act, and the ch- Mr. Chairman, you have indicated that that was not an oversight But it was intentional. The Trump administration had its way. Department of Labor would then be on the hook for carrying out adult education without the hundred uh seven hundred and fifteen million dollars that is typically appropriated. And I g- I don't know who's gonna do it or if it gets done at all. I guess the states uh would need to do it. I d- I d- I don't know, but it's obviously not a priority. I urge my colleagues across the aisle to vote for this amendment, or vote for this
Gentlemen and ladies, I now recognize the gentlelady from Georgia, Miss McMath, to speak on this amendment.
Thank you.
Uh, Chairman, I wish to speak on the amendment to the amendment and then to your substitute.
You're recognized.
Thank you. For the past few years, I've had the privilege of hosting organizations like the Coalition on Adult Basic Education and the National Coalition for Literacy for their annual fly-ins. Adult educators from around the country, they come to Washington every year to share their priorities and to talk about what they need from Congress in order to do their jobs effectively. and ensure that every adult in this country has the basic skills that they need to lead a fulfilling life. They talk about the things like funding and a lack of resources, about how they do this work unpaid because they believe in it, because they truly believe that the work that they're doing is going to help someone provide for themselves and also provide for their families. They tell me about how they have to turn away adults who were left behind once already because they don't have the room or the time to take on any more students. In the many years that I have worked with adult educators, I have heard them ask for many things, but not once have they told me that they think that their jobs would be easier or better if Congress shut down the Department of Edu- Education. If anything, they told me just the opposite. They tell me that this will make only their jobs more difficult. That moving the Office of Career, Technical and Adult Education to the Department of Labor will only cause confusion for educators and for their students. It would be one thing if this change were being considered because it was going to help students learn or make it easier for teachers to do their jobs, but this isn't about that at all. This is about seeing their political dreams of dismantling the Department of Education, come true. Not about helping adults that are left behind by our education system, helping them to get the foundational skills that they need to be productive members of society. There's absolutely no reason that we should be moving these programs from the Department of Education to the Department of Labor when Congress can improve them right where they are right now. My Republican colleagues have a very clear choice. They can choose between passing a bipartisan bill to help people back home get their good jobs and to keep them or they can try to jam through a doomed effort to destroy the Department of Education, an effort that will not pass the Senate, and will do absolutely nothing to improve the lives of the American people. So I urge my colleagues to support this amendment From the good Congressman from Virginia, I encourage all of my Republican colleagues to choose the former and I yield.
I thank the General Lady for yielding. Are there any others who wish to speak on the amendment offered by the General Lady from North Carolina, Miss Adams? Hearing none and seeing none, um, the question now is on the amendment by the General Lady from North Carolina. Aye.
Aye.
All opposed, no. No. In the opinion of the chair, the no's have it.
See, I make a recorded vote.
Recorded vote is requested. In the opinion uh uh a roll call vote is ordered pursuant to the chair's previous announcement. This vote will be postponed. Are there any further amendments to the amendment in nature of a substitute to H R eighty two ten?
What's next, Richard?
A gentlelady from Oregon wishes to be recognized for an amendment.
Yes, thank you, Mister Chairman. I have an amendment at the desk.
The clerk will report the amendment.
Amendment to the amendment in the nature of a substitute to HR eighty-two ten, offered by Miss Bonamici of Oregon, identifier Bonamici underscore IAA underscore zero one.
Does a gentleman from Indiana wish to reserve a point of order?
Mister Chairman, I reserve a point of order.
A point of order is reserved. I now recognize uh, the General Lady from Oregon, Miss Bonabici, for five minutes in support of her amendment.
Uh, thank you, Mr. Chairman. Since last September, Secretary McMahon has been citing authority from the Economy Act and inter-agency agreements to offload the work of the Department of Education onto other agencies as part of this administration's mission to close the Department of Education, something the administration cannot do without congressional action. So far, the department has entered into at least ten new inter-agency agreements with the departments of health and human services, interior, labor, state, and treasury, sending multiple programs, not back to the states, but instead to other federal agencies and departments. One of the reasons Congress created the Department of Education was to coordinate and centralize education matters into one department, instead of forcing people to navigate a bureaucratic maze of departments, all over Washington DC. So, guarantee that the Department of Education is in fact doing its job as Congress intended and established in federal statute, my amendment would prohibit the secretary from using inter-agency agreements, including the inter-agency agreement moving adult education programs to the Department of Labor that is in this bill. This is especially important, uh, Mr. Chairman and colleagues, because, uh, the Department of Labor is a scandal-ridden, leaderless, uh, chaotic, and according to one analyst, uh, morale is in And further, my amendment prohibits the secretary from using authority from the Economy Act to place orders with other departments to complete the work of a stronger workforce for America Act. This committee should not sit idly by while democrat that while department officials offload the work elsewhere and assume that Congress will eventually sign off. The administration's plan is clear. Weaken the Department of Education to the point that it no longer functions effectively, and then try to use manufactured incapacity to justify its elimination. I vehemently oppose the uh the dismantling of the Department of Education, and so do most Americans. They do not want the Department of Education to close. So this amendment will nullify the existing inter-agency agreements the Department of Education has illegally and unconstitutionally brokered without the consent of Congress it will also prevent Secretary McMahon from further handing off her responsibilities through inter-agency agreements. We've seen many examples lately of Congress abdicating its responsibilities. Let's not add this to the list. I urge adoption of the amendment and I yield back.
The gentlelady yields, and I recognize the gentleman from North Carolina, Mister Harris, to speak uh on the amendment.
Thank you, Mister Chairman. Uh, I oppose this amendment because frankly it continues to cement silos and would prohibit collaboration between agencies to improve program delivery. Interagency agreements under the Economy Act have been used by many prior administrations, both Democrat and Republican, to deliver better results for program recipients and taxpayers. To eliminate this option for agency collaboration would only protect the outdated systems that frankly do not work. I just urge my colleagues to oppose this amendment and support the underlying bill. And with that, I yield back.
Yeah, I yield. Gentleman Yields, uh there's a gentleman from Indiana, uh withdraw his point of order.
Yes, Mister Chairman, I withdraw my point of order.
Point of order is withdrawn. Are there any others who wish to speak on the amendment by the gentlelady from Oregon, Miss Bonamici? I recognize the gentleman, the ranking member from Virginia, Mister Scott, to speak on the amendment.
Thank you, Mister Chairman. Mister Chairman, so far the administration has signed about ten inter-agency agreements to offload the work of the Department of Education into other agencies. The administration knows full well that they need Congress to consent to officially close the Department of Education but their actions make it clear that they're disregarding Congress's Article one authority and dismantling the department one office at a time. They're under the table transfer, directly threatens students, teachers and families who depend on a fully functioning department. And the gentleman from North Carolina just said that this these kinds of agency agreements improve uh uh improve performance but most recently the administration announced a partnership to transfer a portion of the student loan portfolio those borrowers who have defaulted on their loans over to the Department of Treasury. The fact is these borrowers actually need the most support and now they'll be limited to Department of Treasury officials rather than the subject matter experts at the Department of Education. The fact is that many of these borrowers are actually eligible for total discharge of their loans through the public service loan forgiveness program that they might not have known about or various anti-fraud provisions or they may be entitled to a lower payment plan um under the income-based uh programs. But officials at the Department of Treasury have no expertise in this area. Their their expertise is in collecting money but not in helping students navigate the student loan program. Um, this, as a matter of fact, the ones in default are the ones that probably need more help than everybody else, and yet these are the ones you're taking out of the Department of Education where people know what they're doing, and putting them to deal with the people in the Department of Treasury who have no expertise on this subject. So as the cost of living continues to rise, Americans are already juggling student loan payments on the top of groceries, gas, child care, health care, housing, all going up because of policies of the Trump administration. And this is the last thing that student borrowers need. And this is why we need to stop illegally dismantling the Department of Education through these inter-agency agreements. So I urge adoption of this amendment. And I yield back the balance of my time.
The gentleman yields. Are there any others who wish to speak on this amendment? Uh, the question is now on the amendment by the gentlelady from Oregon, Miss Bonamici. All in favor say aye.
Aye.
All opposed no. No. In the opinion of the chair, the no's have it.
Uh, we'll we'll pass with a vote.
A roll call vote is ordered pursuant to the chair's previous announcement. This vote will be postponed. Are there any further amendments to the amendment in the nature of a substitute to H R eighty-two ten? Does the gentleman from uh New York, Mister Mannion, wish to be recognized?
Mister Chair, I have amendment at the desk.
The clerk will report the amendment.
Amendment to the amendment in the nature of a substitute to H R eighty-two ten, offered by Mister Mannion of New York, identifier Mannion underscore M A N N I O underscore zero two five.
Does the gentleman from Indiana wish to reserve a point of order?
Mister Chairman, I reserve a point of order.
Point of order is reserved and I'll recognize
Thank you, Mr. Chair. My amendment reduces the number of participating states under the proposed legislation. As currently written, the bill would allow up to ten states to consolidate their funding for different workforce development programs serving youth, adults, and dislocated workers as a single state block grant. And participating states would receive waivers of statutory and regulatory requirements. My amendment would reduce the number of states to five, which was agreed upon in the previous bipartisan version of the bill, and there are several good reasons for this change. First, we know that block granting programs and waiving regulations simply means that certain groups of people will be left behind, or their needs will be overlooked. For the sake of accountability, we should protect the funding streams and guardrails that exist, rather than just giving states complete discretion and hoping Second, I fear that this proposal will weaken labor representation in our workforce development system. Some of these ten states may choose not to maintain their local workforce boards or will at least reduce their role and their input. That would be a mistake in my opinion. Local expertise is critical when it comes to supporting key industries and in-demand jobs. Local unions already have less representation on local workforce boards, it's clear that they should have a much greater role in shaping training programs and industry partnerships. And finally, my amendment restores an earlier bipartisan agreement about this pilot program that the majority has chose to abandon. Although it happened just shortly before my time in Congress, this committee and our Senate counterparts negotiated a strong comprehensive reform bill that should have However, it was not and it wasn't only because Elon Musk and others decided that they didn't like it at the eleventh hour. For no good reason, part of that negotiated package was limiting this block grant provision to five states, along with specific eligibility criteria. Today, the majority has decided to move forward a bill that ignores that compromise, and has little chance of passing the Senate. I asked my colleagues to support this amendment. However, I want to add that I cannot support the underlying bill, which tries to further dismantle the Department of Education and needlessly injects partisanship into this package that not long ago, had been widespread throughout. Thank you, Mister Chair, and I yield back.
Thank you, gentlemen. Gentleman yields. Uh, does the gentleman from Indiana insist on a point of order?
Mister Chairman, I withdraw my point of order.
Reservation is withdrawn. Does anyone else seek recognition on the amendment?
Mr. Chairman. And
I rec- I recognize the gentleman from Utah, Mister Owens, to speak on the amendment.
Thank you, Mr. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I oppose this amendment. This bill established a limited pilot, not a nationwide block grant. Participation is capped at ten states and eight local workforce areas. Claims of this weekend's accountability misses the mark. We're raising the bar on results. The Make America America is skilled again, grant power to give states and local leaders the flexibility to streamline fragmented funding and invest in training that works for their specific circumstances, while rem- uh while maintaining strong accountability. This a- amendment will reduce the number of states that can participate in half which is misguided. The power in the underlying bill is already limited, but limiting participation further will hamper states and federal government abil- uh government's ability to - to experiment with innovative approaches to workforce
The gentleman yields, and I recognize the gentlelady from North Carolina, Miss Adams, to speak on the amendment.
Thank you, Mister Chairman, uh I move to strike your last word to speak on the amen- amendment. Uh, uh, the workforce development system works best in this country when local programs are tailored to local needs. Workforce boards uh connect state workforce systems with local businesses and and community colleges. Uh, their work has transformed the lives of thousands of my constituents. I know one of my colleagues believes that that no one really accesses wheel uh wheel or programs, but but I can tell you that the workforce served over thirty thousand people in Mecklenburg County. Uh people like like Karen, who was unemployed in in in twenty twenty four and by twenty twenty five, she had started a new career as a certified nursing assistant. She and thousands of others in my district not only received training, but were also connected to employers in need of talent. We cannot align workforce dollars with local needs without local influence. Uh the on the ground knowledge of local economies and relationships between workforce boards and job creators make them all an indispensable component of our workforce system. Not only does this provision take control away from cities uh and and counties, it also opens opportunities for political exploitation of federal workforce funding. Under this block grant framework, a state government could starve an area of workforce funds because of political disagreements. I think it's incredibly hypocritical that the m- that the majority, a a majority that seems so concerned with fraud and targeting targeting resources to specific needs supports a provision to block grant workforce dollars to one-fifth of the states in the country. One-fifth. This proposal opens the door for fraud. unjust distribution of resources and partisan influence over what should be a nonpartisan issue. So I think we all remember what happened when the temporary assistance for needy families block grant in in Mississippi. I encourage all of my colleagues to to stand against fraud, support a federalist approach to workforce development, and support this amendment. And, Mr. Chair, I yield back.
The General Lady yields. I now recognize the ranking member, the gentleman from Virginia, Mister Scott, to speak on the amendment.
Thank you, Mister Chairman. Mister Chairman, I'm in support of the gentleman's agreement as it would reduce the number of eligible states to be block granted from ten back to five, which aligns it with the number of states allowed to test out a block grant and a bipartisan version of the Stronger Workforce of America uh act from the last Congress. Now block granted states could, in the work of dozens of local workforce boards. The requirement of the state's use of WIOA funds is to establish local workforce boards in that state. However, the demonstration program would remove this requirement, among many others, and allow a state to use its alignment for funds for any workforce policy it wanted to pursue so long as it met its performance requirements. The whole idea of the block grant was a pilot program to see if it could improve the administration of WIOA funds. and that's why the number of states was limited to five and larger states were ex- specifically excluded expanding to ten and allowing larger states to participate, significantly expands the potential of this block grant to uh a lot more than the original idea. The wheel's central component is that it is locally controlled, which allows local boards to make decisions on how to spend its allotted funds. The federal and for that matter the states, are not as well situated as knowing the local workforce needs of a community like a local board would know. Additionally, my colleague from New York's highlights, uh potentially removing local boards also means removing local labor unions from playing a part in local decision making with local workforce funds. Local labor unions are an integral part of a community's labor market and understand the needs of workers
The gentleman yields. Are there any others who wish to seek recognition on this amendment?
Thank you.
Seeing none, then the question is on the amendment by the gentlelady from Oregon. Excuse me, the gentleman. The amendment by the gentleman from New York, Mister Mannion. All in favor say aye. All opposed, no. No. In the opinion of the chair, the no's haven't, an amendment is not agreed to.
Please request a recorded vote.
A roll call vote is ordered, pursuant to the chair's previous announcement, this vote will be postponed. Are there any further amendments to the amendment in the nature of a substitute H R eighty two ten? Seeing none, further action on H R eighty two ten is postponed. Pursuant to the previous order, the chair declares the committee in recess, subject to the call of the chair.
Well, Mr. Chairman, I'm sorry.
I I recognize the gentleman from Virginia.
Well, um, I was just wondering who we were gonna convene because we have one of our members that will be uh in another committee indefinitely starting at two o'clock and I'd hope we could
We expect we
begin our begin our work before then.
Well we expect to reconvene at two. Um
Right.
That's that's what's been decided.
Pardon?
We talked about it when two PM's done, that we may have some problem and we'll be there at two, but if we change it to one then we don't know what to expect of it.
Okay, never mind.
This point in time we expect to reconvene promptly at two. Um, I think the discussions have gone on to try to work out the situation. But at this time I'll leave it that we expect to recon reconvene promptly at two, unless you were here otherwise. Um, the committee now stands in recess. Uh, they discussed it, I guess.
um
There we go. We're good. Awesome. Yeah, that's good. The committee will reconvene and come to order following a recess. We'll proceed to postpone requests for recorded votes. But first of all, I would like uh to remind all members there will be a bipartisan committee member photo taken in this room immediately after the mark-up. So I'd ask for all members to stay in their seats uh at that point in time. And uh unless you have to change your wardrobe. And I hope that's not the case. But we would like to get the picture and this may be the best time to do it. We'll now be voting on
Five.
five amendments uh to the amendment in the nature of a substitute to H R eighty-two ten. The amendment offered by Mister Scott, the ranking member, titled Scott S under slash SAM. A recorded vote is requested. Members will record their votes using the electronic voting system. Please open the board.
Okay.
Have all members been recorded who wish to be recorded?
Mr. Chairman, can we on this first vote uh delay slightly, I think we have a member on the way.
Sure.
Is here? Is here. That's the that that's the best one.
That's your last one.
Is that?
Very huge. Have all members
Mister Chairman, on this vote there are fourteen nays and eighteen nays.
The amendment is not adopted. So, I'm gonna pass. Yeah. We now uh will be voting on the amendment offered by Mister Scott titled
Oh, I know.
Scott under slash RA under slash Grant under slash AMD.
No, I'm sorry. I
A recorded vote is requested. Members will record their votes using the electronic voting system. Please open the vote.
So,
Have all members been recorded who wish to be recorded? Do any members wish to change their vote? Hearing none, will the clerk please close the vote and announce the tally?
Mr. Chairman, on this vote there are fourteen nays and nineteen nays.
The amendment is not adopted.
So,
We now move to the amendment offered by the lady uh the gentlelady from North Carolina, Miss Adams, uh titled " Adams under slash eighty under slash eighty under slash zero one". A recorded vote is requested. Members will record their votes using the electronic voting system. Please open the vote.
Okay.
Have all members been recorded who wish to be recorded? Do any members wish to change their votes? Hearing none, will the clerk please close the vote and announce the tally.
Mr. Chairman, on this vote there are fourteen nays and nineteen nays.
The amendment is not adopted. We now move to the amendment offered by the gentlelady from Oregon, Miss Bonamici. Amendment, uh, uh, is um titled Bonamici under slash IAA under slash zero one. A recorded vote is requested. Members will record their votes using electronic voting system. Please open the vote. Have all members been recorded or wish to be recorded? Do any members wish to change their vote? Hearing none, will the clerk please close the vote and announce the tally.
Mister Chairman, on this vote there are fourteen nays and nineteen nays.
The amendment is not adopted. We now move to the amendment offered by a gentleman from New York, Mister Mannion, titled Mannion under slashed Manniot under slash zero two five. Recorded vote is requested. Members will record their votes using the electronic voting system. Please open the vote. Have all members been recorded who wish to be recorded? Do any members wish to change their vote? Hearing none, will the clerk please close the vote and announce the tally?
Mr. Chairman, on this vote there are fourteen yeas and nineteen nays.
The amendment is not adopted. The question now occurs on the amendment in the nature of a substitute to a
Aye. Aye.
All opposed, no.
No. No.
In the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it, and the amendment in the nature of a substitute is agreed to. I hereby move that the committee report the Bill HR eighty-two ten to the House of Representatives, with amendment, um, and with a recom- a recommendation that the amendment be agreed to, and the bill do pass. The question now occurs on the chair's motion. All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed, no.
No. No.
In the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it, and the motion is agreed to.
Yes, we can.
Record or vote is requested. Members will record their votes using electronic voting system. Please open the vote. Have all members been recorded who wish to be recorded? Do any members wish
Mr. Chairman, on this vote there are nineteen yeas and fourteen nays.
The ayes have it, and a motion is agreed to, to H R eighty-two ten as amended. And the accompanying materials shall be transmitted to the House of Representatives as the chair notes for the record, that a quorum is present. Please stay around as I do the finals here. Uh, I ask unanimous consent that the staff be authorized to make necessary technical and conforming changes to the Without objection, so ordered. Pursuant to House Rule eleven, clause two L, I give notice that all members have at the requisite number of days to file supplemental, minority, additional, or dissenting views. Without objection, so ordered. Without objection, any member members who wish to insert materials into the record may do so by submitting them to the committee clerk electronically by the end of the day today. If there's no further business before the committee, except a picture, The committee stands adjourned.
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