Summary
- Lawmakers examined bipartisan proposals including the Patients First Act to stabilize Medicare physician payments and prevent another year-end doc fix.
- Murad Alam (President, American Academy of Dermatology Association (AADA)) warned proposed 11% dermatology cuts threaten early skin cancer detection and independent practices.
- Rep. Joyce asked Alam whether consolidation harms personalized care, and Alam answered yes and urged passage of Patients First Act.
- Rep. Fletcher and Rep. Pallone blamed recent Medicaid cuts for closures while Rep. Guthrie and Rep. Griffith focused on advancing Medicare payment stabilization bills.
- Physicians face another Medicare payment cliff by year-end, making committee markup of Patients First Act critical to preserve patient access.
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Provider Reimbursement Stability Act is another bill that aims to update the underlying structure of the physician fee schedule to improve predictability for physician payments and it is being led by Representative Murphy of North Carolina and Representative Schneider of Illinois. MACRA tried to move away from the traditional fee-for-service payment structure which requires recurring legislative dock fixes to prevent scheduled payment cuts to doctor reimbursements. While MACRA perm permanently repealed the older sustainable growth rate formula that caused significant payment challenges, Congress still has to consider short-term legislative patches to stabilize fee-for-service payment rates. By the end of this year, we and Congress will again need to look at a potential doc fix, and these bills try to get at some of those challenges. Another bill before us is the ensuring community access to pharmacist services act. or E CAHPS led by Representative Smith of Nebraska and Representative Schneider of Illinois. This legislation would expand Medicare coverage for certain pharmacy, pharmacist services, such as pharmacists uh providing testing. Community pharmacists are often among the most accessible providers in rural areas, Mm-hmm. which makes this legislation important for communities such as my district, These are my favorite. where many patients consider the pharmacy a critical point of care. Additionally, the Alzheimer Screening and Prevention Act, or ASAP Act, is led by Representative Buchanan of Florida and Representative Tonko of New York, and it would create a pathway for Medicare to cover FDA-approved blood-based biomarker screening tests for early detection of Alzheimer's and other related dementias. Further, I look forward to continuing the work on the Rural Obstetrics Readiness Act, which aims to help prepare rural hospitals and practitioners for obstetric emergencies. It is led by Representative Kelly of Pennsylvania and Representative Kim of California. We often hear about the challenges women and families face in accessing maternal health care particularly in rural areas such as my district. Many communities face shortages of obstetric providers, limited access to local maternity services and growing maternity care deserts. And it is important that we continue to look for ways to address the maternal health care crisis that is facing our country. Two other bills before us today are the Kidney Care Access Protection Act and the Keeping Individuals with Dialysis Needs Equipped Through Through Year-Round Remote Monitoring Act which both aim to improve care access for individuals affected by kidney disease. Among several several other Medicare payment reform bills, we will also discuss bills related to therapeutic shoes for those with diabetes, as well as legislation to mo that modernizes and expands access to cyber resources to help combat com growing cyber security threats. I am looking forward to our conversation and thank you to the witnesses for being here today. I now recognize acting ranking member uh Representative Fletcher of Texas for a five minute opening statement.
Well, thank you so much uh Chairman Griffith and um I'm glad to be with you here today because many of the bills that we are discussing today are important pieces of legislation for my constituents and for communities across the country and this hearing provides us the opportunity to continue important conversations about reforming Medicare payments for providers and to discuss policies aimed at imp at improving the security of Americans' health data something that is critically critically important. Many of the other bills we're discussing today are also toward expanding access to care for people across the country. And while I hope that today we are able to discuss some thoughtful recommendations and ideas, I once again caution everyone that these are not normal times, and we cannot have a hearing on the legislation aimed at reforming our health care system without discussing the ways that this administration and this Congress are actively harming providers and patients with the policies that this Congress has enacted over the last two years. So I know how important it is to pass legislation that will address the cuts to Medicare physician payments and ensure that physicians are receiving adequate reimbursements that will allow them to keep their doors open and to continue treating Medicare patients. In fact, it's one of the top issues I hear about from uh providers that I represent and many, physicians live and work in my district. But at the same time I'm hearing about this issue, I've also spent all of this Congress hearing from so many providers about the devastating effects of the so-called " one big beautiful bill". And I can't get into all of it, but between the cuts to Medicaid and the expiration of the Affordable Care Act, enhanced premium tax credits, it's estimated that nearly fifteen million people will lose access to health care. And the loss of coverage estimates don't even include the additional number of people who are forced to shift their health care plans who get health care plans that are not as good because they can't afford the ones that they had as the costs get shifted throughout the system. And what we know is that that is leaving millions and millions of Americans underinsured, uninsured, and unable to access care. When more people are uninsured and underinsured, it drives up costs. It drives up the cost for uncompensated care. It drives up the that increases the costs for not just the providers, but every single participant in our health care system, especially patients. Our health care system works as an ecosystem. If costs increase in one part of the system, those costs are incurred in other parts of the system. Providers are forced to make cuts elsewhere in the health care system to make up for the increasing uncompensated care costs. And we've already seen providers across the country begin to lay off staff, reduce health care services, and even close their doors altogether. It's expected that these cuts to jobs and health care services will become even more drastic once more of the provisions in that, so-called one big beautiful bill, take effect. They all haven't all taken effect yet. But we know that since it was signed into law, the Trump administration has issued a series of rules to implement the provisions of the bill that go even further than the statutory requirements in the bill, further reducing access to care and placing even more strain on health care providers and our health care infrastructure overall. And with providers forced to cut services and staff, this means that it's not only those who are on Medicaid or who received the enhanced premium tax credits who will lose access to care or see their health care costs increase. It will be more difficult for all Americans to access the care that they need. This will likely result in many Americans delaying or forgoing care altogether. And when people delay or forgo care, that is harmful for their health and for the health of our communities. And physician after physician has told me this, public health expert after public health expert has told us this, it's time for us to respond to it. For an administration that claims it wants to make America healthy again, actions prove the opposite, that it is doing everything but that and not making us healthier, but making it more difficult and more expensive to access health care. So I welcome the discussion today on pieces of legislation that will protect and expand access to care for Americans all across the country, but we on this committee also need to address the ways that policies that have been recently enacted have cut off access to care and have driven up health care costs for millions of Americans and I hope that the committee We'll take the opportunity to do that in future hearings.
Channel E yields back. Now recognize the Chairman of the full committee, the gentleman from Kentucky, Mister Guthrie.
Thank you, thank you, Mister Chairman. Thank you for Chair Griffith for holding this hearing. I'll be brief, as the committee has already done extensive uh work examining the provider landscape and subsequent payment reform. Earlier this year we heard from witnesses as part of our affordability series, followed by a hearing this spring focused on Medicare position payment reforms. Today we will build on that work by considering a range of legislative proposals aimed at strengthening the ability of our nation's providers to deliver enhanced care for Americans. Additionally, we are considering two pieces of legislation to address cyber security threats in the public and private health sectors, and pose serious risks to patient safety and and privacy. H R nine nine zero eight, the Rural Hospital Cybersecurity Enhancement Act, led by my colleagues, Representative Halchen and Schreier. Representatives Halchen and Schreier would support rural hospitals' critical cyber security infrastructure by requiring HHS to establish a comprehensive workforce development strategy that addresses the need for cyber security professionals in rural hospitals. The bill also requires HHS to publicly publish materials for rural hospitals to train their staff. Similarly, the Healthcare Cybersecurity and Resiliency Act of twenty twenty-six would expand resources for preventing and responding to cyber security incidents across the health care system, require health care providers, and plans to include the number of individuals affected when notifying them of a breach. I thank all of our witnesses for being here today. I look forward to hearing from your testimony. I thank the Chairman and I will yield back.
The Chairman yields back. I now recognize the ranking member of the full committee, Representative Colon, for five minutes for an opening statement and a point of personal privilege over and above the five minutes. Mister Quon.
Well, thank you, it's uh good to see you today. I don't know, you've been chairman of two committees since I saw your last rules in here today. But this is our last health subcommittee hearing before House Republicans send us back to our districts until after the election. And it's important as we discuss these legislative proposals today, that we not forget the Republicans' big ugly bill cut American health care cut American health care by more than a trillion dollars, the largest cut in our nation's history. And these massive cuts will result in fifteen million Insurance premiums spiked for twenty million people in the beginning of the year because Republicans refused to extend the ACA tax credits. And while Republicans are holding a hearing to discuss the challenges that providers face in the Medicare physician uh fee schedule, hospitals and clinics are closing in record numbers across the nation because of Republicans' health care cuts. Approximately ten thousand health care workers have already been laid off, and another three hundred hospitals, clinics and home care providers are closing down altogether or reducing services. So that's the health care environment that we face today. It's a disaster in my opinion. But let me get to the bills that we're considering today. We'll discuss a number of bills that would reform and modernize the Medicare physician fee schedule. What con when Congress passed the Medicare access and chip reauthorization act, or MACRA, there was hope that it would stop that roller coaster of payment cuts and create a system for reliable Medicare fi- payments to health care providers based on the quality of care that patients receive. A fundamental portion of MACRA was the merit-based incentive payment system. That system was intended to provide better pay for health care providers who provide better care. In reality, this system has appeared to create additional administrative burdens for providers without producing significant improvements in patient care, in my opinion. I believe any reforms to the Medicare physician payment system needs to ensure that Medicare remains viable while ensuring that patients receive quality care and doctors receive fair compensation. Any changes to the payment system should also improve how we evaluate the quality of care seniors receive without imposing burdensome administrative requirements on physicians. At the end of the day, Congress must prioritize access to to high quality care for all Medicare beneficiaries when and where they need it, and we must ensure any changes that we are considering today do not result in increases in Medicare beneficiaries' premiums or out-of-pocket costs. We will also consider legislation that would require Medicare coverage of Alzheimer's disease early detection screening tests. These tests have the potential to offer a transformative approach to early Alzheimer's screening. Any further changes to this bill must ensure it does not hinder the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services' ability to collect data and real-world evidence real-world evidence in or to inform coverage determinations and must also treat all Medicare bef- beneficiaries equally. We're also considering two health care cyber security bills. They're intended to enhance health care privacy and better protect our health care infrastructure from cyber attacks and intrusions. And I continue to believe that we should address on-line, pos- hol- holistically, look at this holistically, of which health care privacy is an integral and essential aspect to these efforts. But I'm looking forward to the discussion today and I believe we must find bipartisan solutions on this issue. I also believe that Medicare beneficiaries should have access to routine services they need in the most accessible locations, including their local pharmacies, and I believe that H R three one six work can help us to do that. Now turning to public health, we'll consider a bill that would help prepare prepare rural providers to handle obstetrics emergencies, and another bill that would help develop a comprehensive strategy to prevent, diagnose, treat, and cure epilepsy, one of the most common neurological conditions that we have here in the United States. So, uh, I thank Mr. uh, Chairman Griffith. Let me just uh add, if I could, I know I'm going over time here, but I wanted to take a moment to to thank you Nalini for her more than eleven years here at the Energy and Commerce Committee, most of those years serving as Chief Counsel for the Health Subcommittee. She's played a critical role in every major health care bill that has been signed into law during that time. That includes the American Rescue Plan during the COVID pandemic and the bipartisan No Surprises Act, which ended the practice of surprise medical bills for patients. And has also led the health team during passage of the Inflation Reduction Act, which finally empowered Medicare to negotiate lower prescription drug prices for America's seniors. And this legislation is saving seniors billions of dollars on the drugs that have already been negotiated. And there'll be more negotiations this year and in years to come building on those savings. So, Junette has been a trusted advisor, she's going to be missed here at the committee, uh very seriously missed. And I wish her nothing but the best in her future endeavors. I wish she wasn't leaving, but I usually say that about anybody leaves who's good. But in her case it's even it's even more of that uh that uh I wish she wasn't leaving. But I wish her best on her future endeavors and congratulate her for her tremendous work of making health care more affordable and accessible for every American. So all the best, Junette, and thank you for everything you've done. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, I yield back.
Thank you and I I would be remiss if I didn't say that and I think most people who watch us know but without the team behind us uh we couldn't get anything done uh it's very helpful to have their input their knowledge and their advice so thank you. Alright we want the uh oops, skipped a paragraph. We now conclude with member opening statements. The chair would like to remind members that pursuant to committee rules, all members' opening statements will be made a part of the record. We wanna thank our witnesses for taking their time to be with us today, and to testify before this subcommittee. Although it is not the practice of this subcommittee to swear in witnesses, I will remind our witnesses that knowingly and willfully, making materially false statements to the legislative branch is against the law, under title eighteen, section one zero zero one of the United States Code, you will have an opportunity to give an opening statement, followed by questions from members. Our witnesses today are Mr. Greg Garcia, Executive Director for Cybersecurity, Health Care and Public Health Sector Coordinating Counsel, HSCC, Doctor Anthony Pudlow, uh, PharmD, MBA, MS, Chief Executive Officer of the Tennessee Pharmacists Association, TPA, and and are you keeping Ms. Harshbarger in line? I'm just saying.
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Yeah. Uh, Doctor uh uh Murat Alam, MD, MSCI, MBA, FAAD. President, American Academy of Dermatology Associates, AADA. Doctor Rebecca Andrews, MS, MD, MACP, immediate past chair, board of regents, uh American College of Physicians, ACP and Doctor Eileen Atwood, MD, MPH, immediate past chair of the Committee on Health Economics and Coding, American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, ACOG and Miss Gabby Koeniger. Thank you. Uh, M MPH, Co-founder and Executive Director decoding developmental epilepsies. Uh, per committee custom, each witness will have the opportunity for a five minute opening statement, followed by a round of questions from the members. The light on the timer in front of you will turn from green to yellow when you have one minute left. I now recognize Mister Greg Garcia for his five minutes to give an opening statement. Mister Garcia.
Thank you, Mister Chairman and members of the committee, thank you for inviting me to testify. Uh, today I will discuss cyber threats to the health care system and patient safety and what we can do about it. Uh, the Health Sector Cybersecurity Working Group is an industry-led advisory council of almost five hundred health care organizations and government agencies and we work together to identify and mitigate systemic threats and vulnerabilities that affect the delivery and support of health care. At the heart of this work is the guiding principle that cyber safety is patient safety. Twenty-five years ago last Friday, the United States suffered the worst attack on American soil in the nation's history. It resulted in the deaths of more than three thousand people on that day and in its aftermath. While I watched archival news coverage of that event last weekend, I pondered how many souls, how many more souls might have been lost had those terrorists added to their arsenal with simultaneous cyber attacks on the neighboring hospitals. This blended attack could have disabled clinical IT systems and medical devices, and providers' ability to care for the many people burned and injured on that day. you should harbor no doubts that this is a very real scenario. Five years after those September eleven attacks, twenty years ago this coming Friday, in fact, I was appointed as the nation's first DHS Assistant Secretary for Cybersecurity. This new role was created in part to counter the prospect of that kind of devastating blended attack. In reminding me last week about the linkage between those two September days, colleague made a trenchant observation. She told me, " You know, since your appointment, the same technology that has put a cardiologist beside a patient's heart hundreds of miles away has also handed a criminal on another continent a weapon to hold for ransom her life support." This is the challenge before us in the health sector and before this committee. For our part, the many cyber security professionals in our membership have since twenty nineteen produced almost forty healthcare cyber security best practices by the sector for the sector, and some jointly published with HHS. Um, I would commend to my clinical colleagues here, we also have produced a cyber security for the clinician video training series. Forty minutes of your time well spent. Um, and that's available free on our web site. Implementation of these tools will measurably improve the security and resiliency of the nation's healthcare system if we can get them to the stake stakeholders who need them, with the government's help, at scale. And this is especially important for the nation's rural and resource constrained health providers. They are the most vulnerable to evolving malicious cyber threats, and this calls for a concerted, multi-pronged combination of government programs, assistance, and funding, coupled with market-based mutual support, community defense, and a safe harbor when they take appropriate steps to protect themselves, but still get attacked. Today the committee has two cyber security bills pending before you, and while the HSC has not formally considered these bills, I can say that they represent a welcome indication of this committee's attention to this complex and evolving challenge. Together these bills direct cyber security coordination across HHS, CISA, and the healthcare sector, and provide specific targeted assistance to the nation's small rural and resource constrained health providers. clarifications and refinements are needed in certain provisions, we stand ready to work with the committee to consider appropriate recommendations. Some of our suggestions would include the need to, one, direct HHS and CISA to formally involve the council in cyber security deliberations, threat information sharing, and incident response advisories to the community. Two, clarify section four of the Cyber Resiliency Act to require that the HHS designee for internal and external cyber security coordination, be at the deputy assistant secretary level or above, with the appropriate authority to influence policy and programmatic decisions. Three, ensure that grant funding is available to the broadest community of resource constrained health providers, and allow use of those funds to replace legacy medical devices that are too old to secure. And finally, four, Avoid congressionally prescribed technical solutions such as multi-factor authentication and encryption. These might be correct today, but technology is constantly evolving in ways that will change the meaning, the implementation, and effectiveness of technical products and methods. Such technical guidance in our view is better left to evolving industry security frameworks that are widely recognized and referen and referenced in law and operations. Mr. Chairman, that concludes my remarks and I'll be happy to answer any questions.
Appreciate it. And the gentleman yields back. Now recognize Doctor Anthony Pudlow for his five minute opening statement.
Thank you, Chairman Griffith, Ranking Member Fletcher, uh Vice Chair Harshbarger and members of the subcommittee, thank you for the opportunity to testify today. I especially want to thank uh Vice Chair Harshbarger, a fellow Tennessean and pharmacist, for her leadership in expanding access to timely, affordable health care. My name is Anthony Pudlow and I serve as the Chief Executive Officer of the Tennessee Pharmacists Association. Today, I'm here because too many seniors are still being denied timely access to care that may be available just minutes from their homes. You have a bill before you to address this issue that has strong bipartisan support among among members of this committee with thirty-eight co-sponsors among its members including twenty Republicans and eighteen Democrats. Now, Picture a senior who wakes up on a Saturday morning, struggling with respiratory conditions. Her physician's office is closed. Obtaining a timely appointment may be difficult, whether she lives in a rural community or a busy urban area. And waiting could allow a manageable illness to become far more serious. But her trusted pharmacy is open. Her local pharmacist is nearby, trained, and authorized by state law to provide the care she needs. Yet, because she relies on Medicare, coverage for those services may not be available. That is the gap HR thirty-one sixty-four, the Insuring Community Access to Pharmacist Services Act, or ECAPS, would help close. Throughout my career I've viewed health care from many perspectives, as a practicing pharmacist caring directly for patient care, As a leader, developing innovative pharmacy practice models, and as an advocate, working with policymakers and other healthcare professionals. All those experiences reinforced a simple truth, pharmacists are among the most accessible healthcare professionals in a patient's life. For many seniors, the pharmacy is more than a place just to pick up a prescription. It is often the most accessible point of entry into the healthcare system. Patients trust their pharmacist because the relationships buil built over years and often decades of care. Now, consider the Medicare beneficiary in rural Strawberry Plains, Tennessee, who wakes up with those respiratory symptoms but cannot reach a physician office who might be miles away. Or consider the senior in an urban neighborhood of Memphis, Tennessee, who may live near medical facilities but still cannot obtain a timely appointment, or easily travel across the city for care, even though that trusted community pharmacist is nearby and available. Too often, these seniors are faced with a difficult choice, wait and hope that they get better, or seek care in a higher cost setting, such as an emergency department. In Tennessee, pharmacists are authorized under state law to order testing and uh provide treatment for common respiratory illnesses. Tennessee, along with twenty-seven other states, already authorized their Medicaid and commercial health plans to cover such services. Medicare beneficiaries, however, they are often the only patients unable to access coverage for the same pharmacist-provided services. Ecaps would address this disparity by covering pharmacist-provided services under Medicare Part B for common respiratory conditions, under state scope of practice, and as part of the patient's health care team. America's pharmacists are ready. On behalf of the seniors, families, and caregivers who should not have to wait until a manageable illness becomes a medical emergency, I respectfully urge this committee to swiftly advance the in ensuring community access to Pharmacist Services Act. And let us give seniors access to the care that is already close to home, and help them remain where they most want to be, healthy, independent, and with the people they love. Thank you for your leadership and for the opportunity to testify, and I welcome your questions.
Thank you very much. Now recognize uh Dr. Murad. Alam, for his five minutes of opening statement.
Thank you, Chairman Guthrie and Griffith. Ranking members, Poulon and Fletcher, members of the subcommittee. My name is Doctor Murad Alam and I'm president of the American Academy of Dermatology, which represents eighteen thousand physicians nationwide. I'm also the vice-chair and a professor in the department of dermatology at Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine in Chicago. In my practice, which focuses on skin care, skin cancer care, I treat patients who travel from far away, including rural areas and adjoining states, because they cannot find care closer to home. Many of these patients return again and again because they depend upon me to catch cancerous spots. Perhaps it is a new growth on their back that the patient cannot see, or a suspicious sore on their nose that the patient isn't quite sure was there before. Skin cancer is the most common cancer in the United States, with most skin cancer patients sixty-five or older. Dermatologists are expert at evaluating skin lesions, distinguishing benign from malignant disease, and treating skin cancer when it is localized and most treatable. Most of this care is in private practices rather than in hospitals. Prevention, early detection, and access to high-quality, dermatologic care is particularly important for Medicare beneficiaries given their elevated risk of skin cancer. When detected early, ninety-nine percent of skin cancers can be cured, commonly with a single in-office procedure. When detected later, skin cancers that have advanced or spread typically require treatment with expensive and toxic medications and only thirty-five percent A disheartening part of practicing medicine is discovering a lesion that had it been found earlier could have been treated more easily. We saw this repeatedly during the pandemic. I told my staff, I know you are scared, but we have to see patients. We cannot let time pass without them being checked. We stayed open and we prevented suffering and likely saved lives. Unfortunately, between Medicare physician payment cuts and mounting administrative burdens, physicians are facing death by a thousand cuts, a slow erosion that is driving burnout and threatening patient access to care. Every close practice, every delay in care, every unfilled position that further hampers care delivery, threatens the long-term utility of Medicare. While I continue to encourage my medical residents and fellows to start independent practices in underserved areas, it is increasingly difficult to make that case. Between payment cuts, consolidation, and administrative burdens, they fear they cannot survive on their own, even when the desire to serve these communities is there. Congress must act to reform Medicare physician payment by establishing positive annual inflation adjustment and increasing the budget neutrality threshold. In addition to the expiration of the two point five percent update Congress provided only for twenty twenty-six, CMS's proposed rule for the twenty twenty-seven Medicare physician fee schedule includes cuts of eleven percent for dermatology's medically necessary services cuts that cumulatively rise to at least sixteen percent when fully phased in. thereby further destabilizing private independent practices. These proposed reductions directly threaten skin cancer prevention and treatment. If these cuts become reality, physicians would be forced to reduce staffing and limit the number of Medicare beneficiaries they can serve. We extend our gratitude to Representatives John Joyce, Greg Murphy, and Kim Schrier for their leadership in introducing H.R. ninety-six ninety-three, the Patients First Act. While physicians have long advocated for inflation updates tied to the full Medicare Economic Index, the inflationary update policy in the Patients First Act would be a vital building block towards long-term sustainable and predictable annual adjustments. I thank you for holding this hearing and for your commitment to ensuring patient access to life-changing dermatologic care. We must stop draconian cuts to Medicare physician payment. The price of delaying critical legislation, like the Patients First Act, is lives. The Academy looks forward to working with the committee as it considers the challenges facing physician private practices. Thank you.
Thank the gentleman for his testimony and now recognize Doctor Rebecca Andrews for her five minute opening statement.
Good morning, Chairman Griffith and Ranking Member Fletcher, the distinguished members of the subcommittee, and thank you for the opportunity to testify today. Who will take care of me? That was a question that I never thought of ten years ago, but now I worry almost daily when I imagine my future health. I'm Doctor Rebecca Andrews, an Internal Medicine Physician, Primary Care, and the immediate past Chair of the Board of Regents for the American College of Physicians. We represent more than a hundred and sixty-three thousand physicians, nearly half of the nation's primary care physicians, along with those in hospital medicine and the internal medicine subspecialties. Primary care is the foundation of every high functioning health system. A primary care physician is your health guide over the course of your life, and the longitudinal relationships that we build produce the trust for better outcomes. Yet somehow, the US health outcomes still trail other nations. My testimony today is a tale of numbers. One third of our country, one hundred million people, do not have a primary care physician. In my home state, it takes a year to get a new primary care physician. Of my sixty graduating residents each year, Very few choose primary care. This year it was six. That was a good year. And while the average medical student debt, when they graduate, is two hundred and twenty-three thousand dollars, Medicare payments have declined by thirty-three percent since two thousand and one when you account for inflation. This has hit primary care the hardest, since we lack the procedural revenue that cushions other specialties from the same cuts. Medical students and residents must weigh their school debt against their significantly lower earning potential in primary care, compared to other many other subspecialties. In other words, they simply cannot afford to go into primary care. Two years into practice, I personally saw the tangible evidence of the power of primary care. A twenty-nine year old woman called me, concerned about a breast lump, so I made her patient number twenty-six that day. And I have now cared for her for twenty years, through her cancer treatment, its recurrence, and her second remission. It took me ten years to convince her to treat her depression, but that allowed her to go back to work. For the past five years, I've treated her diabetes. And just two weeks ago, with the help of my resident, after years of discussion, I finally convinced her to take a medicine that would protect her against heart disease. This is primary care. The comprehensive care that is undervalued and built over years that produces the health outcomes we all want.
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Adding ten primary care physicians to every hundred thousand patients adds an average of two years of life expectancy. And for all of you, adding ten primary care physicians means that your cons- constituents will double their life expectancy by adding them compared to any other type of physician. And yet, we're losing this practice area. Still, I'm buoyed by hope. The Patients' First Act of twenty twenty six is part of that hope, and I thank doctors Joyce, Murphy and Schreier for leading the effort. Our written testimony has more detail, but I wanna highlight the potential. A permanent inflationary update would ensure physician payment never again goes three decades without an increase. A five-year hybrid payment pilot would provide independent primary care practices, in addition to fee for service, a per-member fee, recognising that primary care happens on the phone, through care coordination, and certainly beyond the office visit. I use a similar model in my practice, and we are able to have integrated social work, behavioral health, and a pharmacy team. But this must not be offset by broad cuts. or cost sharing by patients. So who will care for me in the future? To get more medical students and residents into primary care, invest in primary care through a mechanism not beholden to budget neutrality, support coding policies that appropriately value and recognize the time to provide longitudinal comprehensive care, use quality measures that are evidence-based, such as the Quality Reform Task Force and the Patient First Act, And build safeguards against physicians so they're not penalized for their patient complexity and social risks. Friday my resident asked me about the future of medicine. He wants to go into primary care. The future doctors are watching what you decide. But with input from physicians and professional medical organizations, you have the power to build a system that puts the physician in front of the patient rather than behind mountains of paperwork. Thank you for the opportunity to testify. I look forward to your questions.
Thank you very much, and now I'll recognize Doctor Eileen Atwood for her five minute opening statement.
Chairman Griffith, Ranking Member Fletcher, and distinguished members of the subcommittee, thank you for inviting me to speak with you today on behalf of the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists. My name is Doctor Eileen Atwood. I'm a practicing OBGYN in Providence, Rhode Island, where I also serve as the Co-Medical Director of the Emergency Department at my primary hospital. as well as hold privileges and work clinically at two other low-obstetric volume hospitals in the state. I am also the immediate past chair of ACOG's committee on health economics and coding. ACOG, with more than sixty thousand members, is the leading physician organization dedicated to advancing women's health. Our mission is to support our members to improve the lives of our patients, their families, and communities. Key to realizing that mission is ensuring sustainability of physician practice and patient access to affordable, high quality, and safe health care. One in three US counties have no obstetric clinicians or birthing facilities. More than two point four million women of reproductive age live in these communities, and nearly one hundred and fifty rural hospitals have stopped or planned to stop providing obstetric services between twenty twenty and the end of this year. This rapid increase in closure has reached crisis levels. In rural areas, loss of hospital-based is associated with higher rates of outer h out of hospital and preterm births, as well as lower rates of prenatal care, with the maternal mortality rate in the United States remaining unacceptably high with notable disparities by both race and rurality. This is why ACOG is proud to support HR one two five four, the Rural Obstetrics Readiness Act. This bill would create an obstetric readiness training program for rural facilities without a dedicated labor and delivery unit. provide new federal grants for those facilities to purchase the necessary equipment, and create a pilot program to support a warm line, connecting OBGYNs with clinicians in rural facilities in need of urgent teleconsultation. And this work is not just theoretical. We have done it informally in Rhode Island and with significant positive effect. Whether working in the emergency department or as serving as the hospital's Paranatal Safety Officer I am frequently on the receiving end of obstetric emergency transfers. including those from facilities without a dedicated labor and delivery unit. For example, I recently took a call from a regional hospital that had a patient in her second trimester present to their emergency department with dangerously high blood pressure. Through our t phone consultation, I was able to recommend the appropriate medications to minimize her risk of stroke or seizure and help determine if they could safely transport the patient to our facility, nearly an hour away, where we have the necessary resources for this patient and her baby. Additionally, we have grown our emergency department training programs with other specialties, including emergency and family medicine. We work alongside non-OBGYN residents and faculty to become more comfortable with obstetric emergencies that may present to their local and rural hospitals, to become more agile in safely managing these patients locally and best practices when transferring to a higher level of care. With this in mind, we urge Congress to pass the Rural Obstetrics Readiness Act this year. I also want to express my support for efforts to fix the flawed Medicare physician payment system. More than eighty percent of OBGYNs accept Medicare, affirming the role we play in caring for patients across the lifespan. Medicare patient payment policies reach beyond the Medicare program, with Medicaid, TriCare, and private insurers often following Medicare's lead on physician payment rates. The current system is not sustainable and has contributed to the consolidation of physit physician practice. As you just heard, adjusted for inflation, Medicare physician payment has declined nearly thirty-three percent over the last twenty-five years. The lack of inflationary update, the outdated budget neutrality threshold, and the recent misguided efficiency adjustment policy threatens not only the future of private practice, but access to care writ large. We need a payment system that recognizes the value and complexity of surgical care, as well as primary care, and adjusts for inflation to ensure that payment reflects the cost of providing that care. that updates the budget neutrality cap, and that allows for adjustments based on actual utilization. We are urging Congress to pass both the Provider Reimbursement Sustainability Act and the Patients First Act. Together these bills will add much needed stability to the Medicare program and preserve the low volume threshold necessary to enable OBGYNs like me to remain in the program while maintaining the shared priority of advancing access to high quality care. We are nearing the end of this Congress, but there is still time to pass.
Thank you very much, and and now recognize Ms. Gawby Hynekker for her five minute opening statement.
Thank you so much, Chairman Guthrie and Ranking Member Fletcher and members of the Uh my name is Gaby Koeniger and I'm the Co-founder and Executive Director of the Epilepsy uh excuse me Decoding Developmental Epilepsies and serve as a founding member of the Epilepsies Action Network but most importantly I am Elliot's mother, a child with a rare and catastrophic epilepsy who joins me today along with his sister Vega and my mother Jayetta epilepsy is always a family matter. I am here today to ask you to pass the National Plan for Epilep Epilepsy Act, H R eleven eighty nine, which has generated significant bipartisan support with ninety-seven representatives and twenty-eight senators who have cosponsored the National Plan for Epilepsy Act and the Senate recently unanimously passed a modified version. Nearly three point four million Americans live with epilepsy, rough and roughly half a million of those are children. We have made extraordinary scientific progress, but our system has not kept pace. We need a national plan to translate that progress into better care and outcomes for those living with epilepsy. My son Elliot began having seizures within days of being born. They were dismissed for months, and we were delayed in accessing a neurologist. What followed was a year and a half diagnostic odyssey with more than a dozen doctors, spinal taps, skin biopsies, MRIs, EEG_s, hundreds and hundreds of seizures. and many, many hospitalizations. In twenty fourteen, genetic testing revealed that my son has an SCNA-related disorder, a rare genetic condition that wreaks havoc on every system in his body. I speak on his behalf and for the countless others who cannot. Elliot is thirteen and he is my pride, my joy. But he suffers immensely. Elliot cannot hold up his hand in head independently, grasp a toy, eat by mouth, tell me what he's why he's hurting. or what he likes. Every day I live in fear that that day could be our last. And despite everything we know now, after about a d decade uh since the discovery of the disorder, he has tried and failed nearly every anti-seizure medication uh and excuse me, he has failed nearly every seizure medication that he has tried, and his treatment is still largely trial and error. Elliot's story is one of a catastrophic rare but there are so many others who live with profound uh effects of epilepsy. The veterans who have suffered TBIs, elder onset epilepsy, those with epilepsy that cannot get pregnant or live in deep depression. For far too many children I've seen pass away from drowning, respiratory distress, multi-system organ failure. In fact, one in every thousand people who live with epilepsy will pass away quietly in the night from SUDEP sudden unexpected death in epilepsy. The terrible reality is that one in twenty-six people will develop epilepsy in their lifetime. That equates to roughly one in one child in every classroom. Families across the country are navigating delayed diagnoses, disconnected care, inadequate data, and treatments that far too often remain guesswork. As you all likely know, more than a dozen federal agencies are currently working in epilepsy, NIH, CMS, CDC, FDA. Department of Education, Veterans Affairs. We have made incredible, incredible progress in epilepsy research, and there's incredible work happening in this country, yet too little of that knowledge is really translating into quickly available treatments and outcomes for patients. At least one third of adults who live with epilepsy do not gain seizure control. About a quarter of children, and for with a disorder like SCNA that my son has, more than sixty percent of those children never gain seizure control. We do not systematically track enough patients, their care, and outcomes to meaningfully learn from each person. As we've heard repeatedly today, clinicians are under strain. They are managing complex, lifelong conditions amid workforce shortages, administrative burdens, and limited tools to predict what treatments will work and when. And as we know, precision medicines are on the horizon, but uncoordinated systems and delaying um are delaying the promise of these lifesaving opportunities. This fragmentation also has uh consequences for affordability. Uncontrolled epilepsy drives significant health air care costs, and it is estimated that the total health kill bur care burden for those living with epilepsy is at least fifty-four billion dollars. Better coordination can help us get patients to the right diagnosis and the treatments sooner improving outcomes reducing avoidable costs and giving care providers better information and tools to care for their patients. Families like mine should not have to build the infrastructure ourselves to find patients, collect data, develop c guidelines, and push science toward treatments. The good news is is that the epilepsy community has come together, a hundred and fifty organizations have endorsed the legislation, and we have already come together to develop consensus priorities for what could be conclude c can be included in a national plan for epilepsy, And when it is passed, we stand by ready to support uh Congress and the Secretary-Gerent advance this lifesaving work. In the world of epilepsy, I'm almost done, I promise, there is a saying which is that time is brain. The longer we wait, the more damage that is done. It may already be too late for my son, but we have the chance with the National Plan for Epilepsy Act, take a ha historic step toward ending decades of fragmentation and ensuring that scientific progress more rapidly reaches the people who are desperately needed. We need to act now. And on behalf of Elliott, my family, and the millions of Americans and their families who uh live with epilepsy on a daily basis I respectfully ask you to pass H R eleven eighty-nine this year, to give families like mine a future defined not by fear and lost potential,
Mm. Thank you.
but by progress and possibility.
Thank you for your thank you for your testimony today.
Thank you.
Uh we will now begin questioning. I'd ask that members not begin a new question to our witnesses as their five minutes is about to expire. and would encourage members to submit written questions for the recoc record. I now recognize myself for five minutes of questioning, first with uh I would ask for unanimous consent to present for the record a letter from Congresswoman Jen Kiggins a Nurse Practitioner who writes in support of HR sixteen sixteen the promoting access to diabetic shoes act. Without objection? So ordered. Alright, Doctor Atwood. In my district we have a limited number of O OBGYN specialists and many are considered uh many areas are considered maternal health care deserts. Outside of payment stability, what are some other ways we can look to build the maternal health workforce pipeline, especially in rural communities, where a lot of times it's not that the hospital's not willing, they just don't have providers.
Absolutely. Thank you for that question. I think this is actually one of the unique opportunities that I have in my current workplace, work very closely with various trainees and other specialties and other clinicians. We work with family medicine residents, emergency medicine residents, women's health nurse practitioners, certified nurse midwives, multiple people who work out in the community and are able to take the training that we do in our emergency department for obstetric emergencies and be able to take that back locally. I was actually just working with a resident this past Sunday on call who looks forward to returning to where she grew up in in Wyoming or potentially in West Virginia actually, we had this conversation, to be able to take the training that she has gotten out of our emergency department specifically for obstetric emergency care and take that back. She was so thankful that we have developed this program and that's really what we're looking to be able to do on a national level formally through the Rural Obstetrics Readiness Act.
Thank you very much. Uh, Doctor Andrews, from a provider perspective, how would a bill like the Alzheimer's Screening and Prevention Act change care for Medicare beneficiaries. Do you think that the bill would save costs for both patient and health care systems as a whole if individuals had access to these screenings with proper safeguards?
Thank you for that question. I think of Alzheimer's like any chronic condition. The sooner we can diagnose it, the more we can treat it up front and prevent some downstream um adverse effects of that condition. In particular, for something like Alzheimer's, It provides time for the family to plan. I have a family, there were three daughters and one wonderful mother who was my patient. They managed to keep her at home for her entire diagnosis because we did cognitive screening and it was prior to having ways to diagnose it. But we did cognitive screening, we knew it was coming, we got an aide in the house, we safeguarded her, and they did an amazing job as a family taking care of her. Um but those are the types of changes that early diagnosis can um help with. Additionally as a patient, um her being able to figure out her financial will and other conditions helped pay for those uh so that it didn't burden the system with costly unexpected admissions, um and other you know, downstream effects. So I think it would be great to diagnose all conditions as early as possible.
Thank you. Uh, Doctor Pudlow, in Virginia we have a statewide protocol that allows pharmacists to test and treat certain illnesses from your experience. In Tennessee, what impact have you seen these services have on senior patient health outco outcomes particularly in rural areas like the ones that both Representative Harshbarger and I represent?
Um, yeah, thank you for the question, Chairman. Um, you know, I think it's a really great question, uh, uh, you know, what what HR thirty one sixty-four is really focused about is is that access and I think amongst the states like Tennessee like Virginia that already have that authority it it continues to provide um not just the access to care like we've talked about, but I think it continues to show that we are triaging and helping getting patients into the healthcare system when there is limited access to care in in a rural area in in in both here also cases um but ultimately I I do think that that that access alone it it's not necessarily reducing disparities by any means Um we continue to try to build that trust and that's what I think um statewide protocols and other authorities that are granted at the state level do.
Thank you. Doctor Andrews, uh back to you. We heard a little bit uh on this in the openers, but the way the physicians are reimbursed by CMS is complex and confusing and it requires uh budget neutrality. Can you briefly explain how this works in reality and this and mainly, I know you touched on in your opening, but dumb it down for me and folks back home.
Uh, I think it's actually pretty simple. You can't run a business, even if that business is a social need, if you have no idea how you're going to get paid three months, twelve months later, and the instability makes it very difficult to plan, to recruit for the staffing and interdisciplinary team you need. In particular, if our country wants to move to making real change for health outcomes, we have to be able to innovate And to innovate you have to be creative, and it takes time to make sure it's working. And with unstable reimbursement, it's just it's just not possible. Um, thank you.
Thank you. And my time is up, so I will yield back and now recognize Miss Fletcher for her five minutes of questioning.
Well, thank you, Mister Chairman, and thank you to our witnesses for your time and your testimony here today. Picking up uh where Chairman Griffith left off, I represent a lot of physicians in my district in Houston who have for years faced declining Medicare payment reimbursement because the current reimbursement rates haven't kept pace with inflation or rising practice costs and since two thousand one, Medicare physician payment has fallen about thirty-three percent when it adjusted for inflation. The decreasing reimbursement rate is unsustainable and it really threatens access for all patients to get access to care. So that's been an important focus for me in Congress and I um while I'm glad that Congress has stepped in to provide some temporary and short-term solutions in the past it's really critical that Congress focuses on providing a long-term reform for Medicare physician payments. And so I'm grateful to my colleague, Representative Schreier, for introducing the the Patient First Act to provide this long-term reform to Medicare physician payments. And I was glad to cosponsor this important legislation, and I hope that we will consider it in a mark-up this Congress. One of the other bills that we're talking about in this hearing that I wanna highlight is the Rural Obstet- Obstetrics Readiness Act. Um, we have heard it before in this committee, but it really bears repeating that the United States of America has the highest maternal mortality rate of all developed countries. And it's important that we work to address the disparities in maternal health outcomes. And things are getting worse. Just last week, for example, a new report showed that the number of women who have died from ectopic pregnancies has nearly doubled in the last five years. So this bill is an important step in this work, but as I mentioned earlier, the provisions in the so-called One Big Beautiful Bill Act decreased Medicaid reimbursement rates for hospitals and that is also having a huge impact on access to obstetric care. And without getting into the details, I think everyone understands that it's created a financial strain on hospitals, and that when hospitals have constraints and they're looking for departments and and areas that they can cut funding, the maternity ward is often the first and easiest option for hospitals that need to cut costs and that's especially true in rural and underserved hospitals. It's just of the fact that even for this bill last year, hospitals were already struggling to keep their maternity wards open. Um from twenty ten to twenty twenty four, more than seven hundred hospitals closed their maternity wards, and since the passage of the bill last year, more than fifty maternity wards have closed or announced plans to close. Um experts are warning they're expecting even more of those, and so it's an issue that's particularly concerning to me. Um in Texas, almost half of the two hundred and fifty-four counties currently lack any access to maternity care. Texas already has the highest uninsured rate in the country, and it's expected to increase. And fifty percent of the births in Texas are covered by Medicaid. Fifty percent. And right now the Trump administration is currently withholding about nine point eight billion dollars, um, for Texas's fiscal year twenty twenty-seven Medicaid supplemental payments. Texas hospitals are losing twenty-seven million dollars a day in Medicaid funding. So between all of these factors, I am concerned that more hospitals across Texas and across the country will close their maternity wards. So, Doctor Atwood, with the time I have left, I just wanna ask you how maternity wards closing in hospitals will impact patient access to care and at the same time your views on what those closures will mean um for health outcomes for expectant mothers and the maternal mortality crisis.
Thank you very much. And, you know, as you noted, hospitals are closing at an alarming rate, and OBGYN or labor and delivery units in particular are closing even faster than that. And the more we see labor and delivery units close, the harder it is to access that really important high quality, safe labor and delivery or obstetrics care, which means our patients are driving further, driving through potentially difficult conditions, needing to get a place And just as we heard from our colleague, time is brain, time is really important for our patients. We need them to be able to see their OBGYN to get their safe care as quickly as possible. And so we do worry the more that these labor and delivery units close the harder that care is to access. But that is also why the Rural Obstetrics Readiness Act is so important, to also be able to mitigate some of those changes so that we have the tools and supplies for our colleagues in those rural hospitals, to be able to diagnose, evaluate, treat and safely transfer those patients in the process of getting them to where they can see an OBGYN like me.
Well, thank you. I'm at the end of my time, so I have additional questions for you that I will submit for the record, and with that I will yield back.
Thank you very much. I now recognize the gentlelady Vice Chair of this subcommittee from Tennessee, Miss Harshbarker.
Thank you, Mister Chairman, and thank you to the witnesses for being here today and um I'm I'm happy to see my fellow Tennessean here, um Anthony, and thank you for being here. We worked together for a lot of uh different legislation and I appreciate your hard work. You know, today's hearing covers several important bills, uh including uh one of my bills. It's H R five seven thirty seven. It's a radiology outpatient ordering transition act, and I won't say that only once. It's called the Root Act, and it's expected to save approximately two billion in reduced Medicare produced one point five billion in savings for Medicare beneficiary over ten years. Since twenty twenty three um the AUC program has been and definitely Paul's company see it became clear its requirements were not working as intended and the Root Act will make uh the necessary fixes to address these problems. So providers uh will have the clinical support tools at the point of care, strengthening appropriate imaging utilization and provide meaningful program evaluation future improvements. And Mr. Chairman, I'd like to ask unanimous consent to enter uh the statement of the American College of Radiology in today's hearing record.
Without objection.
Thank you, sir.
So ordered.
Now okay. Now I'm gonna focus on H R three one six four. That's the E CAHPS bill, the ensuring community access to pharmacists act. And we'll start with um Mr. Pedlow, Tennessee has taken significant steps to expand the role of pharmacists in patient care. And you know, I live in a rural district, uh our chairman lives in a rural district, it's just if when you have distress in at-risk counties, it's hard to access care sometimes. So, one point we don't discuss often enough is uh cost. So how can pharmacists provide a care reduced cost and uh to help reduce that avoidable health care spending for both Medicare and taxpayers when you do the testing treatment or other clinical services closer to home.
Uh thank you for the question, Congresswoman. Um and I and I think to continue to emphasize uh the points that not just in my verbal comments but written is that we continue to see pharmacists by providing such services for uh testing and treating for res respiratory illnesses, we're really helping that patient um uh b uh preventing them from having to go to a higher cost location. And I think even in my days as a practicing pharmacist I saw the same thing. We were able to help navigate the complexities of our health care system, and help that patient figure out where is the best source um for them to get access to treatment.
Actually, that's true. You know, I've been doing this for forty years, and uh there's a pharmacist, they come in and we triage them, we send them to where they need to go, whether it's physician or um or other outpatient facilities. So um let me turn my uh questioning to Doctor Andrews. Um you mentioned that only six of
When I have a third year resident asking me what I think about the twenty twenty seven Medicare proposed fee rule, yes,
Of course.
I th I think that the reimbursement plays a significant role, just listening to the amount of debt they have,
Yeah.
um, and trying to pay for that. I think stabilization, um, you know, catching up on the thirty years of inflation and then stabilization of payments, including, um, you know, the Patients First Act is going to stabilize APM, um, payments for another three years. People who are in the midst of trying to provide higher quality care, um, can then get reimbursed and rely on that. I think all of that is really important to quite savvy medical residents who are thinking about how to survive and open their own practice.
Yeah. Yeah. 'Cause that's an anomaly to have your own practice, isn't it? Um,
It is now.
h it is an anomaly, and um I see a lot of docs now going out of their practice to do cash-based practices because of some of these things. Uh, now I'll go back to Mr. Pudlow, based on your
Um thank you for the question. I I I I would say it means the world to pharmacists. There's so many pharmacists right now that are already providing such services, and they're seeing compensation, whether it's for a commercial health plan or or our TennCare program. Um but then the majority of patients that come to a pharmacy are Medicare beneficiaries.
Yeah.
Um and so it's really difficult for a pharmacy to completely transition their workflow and their practice model to do that, so to me it's it would be uh a very big benefit.
It will be a big benefit. Okay, with that, I yield back, Mister Chairman.
General, I yield back now, recognize um Dr. Ruiz for his five minutes of questioning.
Yes, thank you. Um Thank you so much. Um, let me just get my notes here. I don't know. Uh, today's hearing provides an important opportunity to improve access to care for our seniors and ensure that Medicare providers can deliver the care their patients deserve and depend on. Uh, for seniors on fixed incomes where they receive services, it's not just a matter of convenience, but it directly affects their ability to afford. and access health care. Millions of Medicare beneficiaries, especially those with serious chronic conditions, rely on office-based settings and ambulatory sur- surgical centers for timely affordable treatment. But reimbursement differences between these care settings, particular for services requiring high-cost medical supplies, can push certain procedures out of the most convenient affordable options for seniors. In my district, the Imperial Valley has some of the fewest hospitals and surgical centers per capita, in the country, meaning se- seniors often drive an hour or more for care. When reimbursements makes a procedure uneconomical for local provider, patients face added travel, missed work days, and delayed treatment with real consequences for their health. That is why I introduced a promoting Fairness for Medicare Providers Act alongside my colleague uh Representative Bill Irakes. So this bill would correct this by aligning Medicare payment rates across care settings for procedures with high supply cost. Modernizing reimbursements and restoring payment parity would let seniors keep care with their trusted providers without disrupting their treatment. Uh, Doctor Andrews, beyond this legislation, what specific changes to Medicare's payment policy should be implemented to restore payment parity across care settings and what impact do these payments disparities have on beneficiaries' out-of-pocket costs?
Thank you for that question. Uh, I think being able to catch up the office-based environment with inflationary um increases compared to hospitals and nursing facilities who have had that all along is really important to keeping the care outpatient and independent practices especially as we have all talked about today, in rural environments open. Um some other things that are really helpful, the five year hybrid payment pilot that's in the Patients First Act, that could truly stabilize the ability to innovate care
Thank you.
But do do the kind of care that we're talking about with phone calls, collaborating with pharmacy, with, uh, OB-GYN and other folks.
Thank you, thank you. You know, we we also know that Medicare is a lifeline for seniors. Uh, we know that seniors rely on Medicare. Um, but the reimbursements for physicians have not been keeping pace with the cost of providing that care. And, uh, with the inflation. plus you have fluctuation costs, cuts that are happening as we speak, uh, proposed rules. So we need to do a better job at expanding Medicare access to seniors. We need to end these end of year cuts, and we need to pay providers a fair reimbursement rate so they can keep their doors open. Cuz if they close their doors, seniors can't see them. And that's a senior access issue. And that's why we need to tie the uh reimbursements to the full MEI. All the other providers have full parity for MEI reimbursements. Uh and so that's that's why, you know, I introduced the Protecting Medicare for Patients and Providers Act, uh to tie the reimbursements to the full MEI. Uh uh Representative Bill Arrakis is a lead co-sponsor that bill as well. Um, you know, there's there's a lot of great things in the Patients First Act. But I'm I'm a little worried that we're short-changing physicians. We're short-changing providers and trying to call it a doc fix when it's not a doc fix. It's gotta be able to ha we doctors have got to be able to keep their doors open. And the most simple way of reimbursing physicians' preparedness is by fully matching
Uh, I th I think everybody would, however, I mean
Yes, sir, but we feel that Patients First Act is a good first step, and we thank you very much for your leadership in pushing for a full MEI.
Great. Well, I just want to make it clear that this is gonna leave an unsatisfactory sentiment amongst the provider organizations. I agree this is a good next step, but this isn't the fix. We can't stop until we have the full MEI parity. With that, I yield back.
Gentleman yields back. Now I recognize the gentleman from Pennsylvania, Doctor Joyce, for his questions.
Thank you for yielding, Mister Chairman, and for holding today's hearing on such a critical topic. Extensive consolidation in our health care system has left the American patient facing skyrocketing costs and less access to doctors. This is driven in no small part by the death of the private practice in this country. Today, only one in five doctors is not an employee of a major health system or a large corporate entity. We have left far too many seniors without access to a primary care provider, and pushed more care delivery into more expensive settings through decades of declining reimbursement under the Medicare physician fee schedule. To address these issues, both the GOP doctors caucus and the Democrat doctors caucus have delivered bipartisan reform to alleviate these issues. to ensure better primary care access for seniors, to create stability for smaller and rural practices. H R ninety-six thirty-three, the Patients First Act, authored by me, Doctor Schreier, and Doctor Murphy, is a necessary first step. And I am pleased to see that it is included in today's hearing. Doctor Allen, we're gonna make this very simple for the first three questions. Th- first of all, thank you for being here today. Just very simply, yes or no, are private practice doctors the most cost-effective access points to our health care in America?
Yes.
Doctor Alam, do you believe the consolidation reduces options for patients to receive personalized care from a doctor that they know and a doctor that they trust?
Yes.
And finally, Doctor Alam, what do you hear from the doctors that you work with about the challenges that they face on a daily basis to remain independent and how does the Patients First Act address their concerns?
The Patients First Act is critical in our opinion. The biggest concern we hear from our member physicians is that Medicare reimbursement cuts are impairing their ability to see patients in a timely manner, and provide necessary care. Right now, ninety-nine percent of skin cancers are curable. If that number, because of delay, decreased by even a single percent to ninety-eight percent, the increased number of deaths would be comparable to the number of lives saved by the use of seat belts and airbags in the entire country. Now, none of us would be happy having our family travel in a car without seat belts or airbags and certainly none of us would deliberately disable those protections if that were an option. In that context, the Patient First Act is critical. It is critical because while it doesn't provide a full inflationary update, it takes a big step in the right direction at MEI minus one. It also provides for change in budget neutrality, so that if some services in the healthcare system are paid at a higher price, someone else doesn't have to take a pay cut that is unrealistic. And finally, it mitigates the extreme administrative burden on patients and physicians of things like MIPs, which cause doctors to be distracted with paperwork when they could be taking care of patients. We are grateful for your leadership in supporting the Patients First Act and in authoring the Patients First Act and we are hopeful that Congress will consider this as a necessary step in improving our health care system. Thank you.
Thank you, Doctor Allen. I would also like to thank the committee considering legislation today from Doctor Miller Meeks that also deals with the failing MIPS system that you just mentioned. And for Mister Gus Bilirakis for his work on H R seventy eight sixty three which helps support office-based providers on keeping services with costly supplies out of the hospital setting. We must all continue to work and build on these reforms and advance advance them by the end of the year. the annual year-end patchwork needs to stop, we must pass the comprehensive reforms contained in the Patients First Act, and others that we are considering as well, to ensure access to the highest quality of care that all of Americans deserve and that all of Americans want. Thank you, Mister Chairman, and I yield the remainder of my time.
Thank you, gentlemen. He yields back. And now recognize the the uh gentlelady uh Miss Kelly for her five minutes.
Thank you, Chair Griffith, for convening this hearing and thank you to all the witnesses. As the committee considers ways in which we can strengthen our health care system through provider payment reform and protect our health infrastructure I would like to focus on the question of whether patients in this country can actually access the care they need in the first place. Maternal care has constantly been treated as an afterthought in this country. and every day women pay the price. The United States is facing a severe maternal mortality crisis, and as hundreds of women die every year for mostly preventable pregnancy-related complications, labor and delivery units are being closed. Between twenty ten and twenty twenty four alone, over seven hundred hospitals across the country closed their obstetrics units. These closures have mostly impacted rural areas. have most impacted rural areas. And as a result, fifty-eight percent of rural counties lack obstetric clinicians. Pregnant and postpartum women living in these counties are left stranded, forced to travel long distances to access the critical care they need. I had a farmer tell me he had to drive sixty miles for his wife uh to have her baby and she wasn't ready, drove sixty miles back, then she was ready sixty miles back. In emergency situations, every minute that care is delayed can result in catastrophic consequences. Doctor Atwood, you are a practicant OBGYN and you have handled emergency obstetrics care directly. Firstly, I would like to thank you for your critical work and thank you for your testimony today. In your experience, when an obstetric unit closes, what is the impact on the surrounding communities?
Yeah, thank you for the question and thank you for your leadership, Congresswoman. It is a very real experience for both patients and clinicians and OBGYNs when this happens if I can use an example actually just from this past weekend as well. So we have many hospitals in our area that do not have labor and delivery units and do not have OBGYN providers within the hospital. But patients don't always know that, right? They think it's the closest hospital to their house, that's where they go. So we had a patient who presented in her early third trimester, did not know she was pregnant, and had abdominal pain. Ultimately speaking, the emergency medicine clinician there very quickly realized we are concerned about preterm labor and we're concerned this baby is gonna deliver in a place that's not gonna be suitable for that baby to come out and to be the most safe for the mom. So they were able to call us and say, hey, how can we help, what can we do? We talked them through an evaluation, we talked them through the necessary medications to help prevent infection for the infant, to help slow the contractions in order to help her safely travel to our institution, to give the medications to help that baby's lung mature if it were to deliver. In the end, ultimately, the mom was transferred to us and the baby was safely not delivered, and she was able to stay pregnant because we had all of those tools at our disposal,
Mm. Mm-hmm.
including the warm line, that they were able to call. And so whereas we of course would always like our patients to have the fastest access to OBGYNs, we know that's not always the case. And the Rural Obstetrics Readiness Act really helps bridge that gap to be able to provide that care when needed.
Thank you. I introduce a bipartisan Rural Obstetrics Readiness Act alongside my colleagues, Rep. Schrier, Kim, and Muser to work to address the widening gap in maternity care. As you noted in your testimony in areas where there's no obstetric services, emergency departments and other health care facilities play a vital role in maternal and infant health, but they are not always equipped to take on the most severe cases. So for facilities in rural areas without obstetric units, how can training and equipment help bridge the gap to stabilize an obstetric's emergency? And I wanna have a little bit of time.
Yeah, it's training is so important, and having the necessary equipment is also really r a really important piece of that puzzle. And so being able to work directly with the trainees in emergency medicine, family medicine, nurse practitioners like I stated earlier, is the first step. And then making sure they have the tools in their institution. These tools might be hemorrhage cart materials or to manage um infant warmers, a bedside ultrasound that they might not have or might not have the training to have, teaching them to be able to locate where is that baby, what is the heart rate, can we safely deliver this baby. You know, other important things like specialized anesthesia equipment which is not always the same for a pregnant mom. You know, emergency delivery equipment, even beds that support delivery in an emergency department which most places don't have making sure we have that available so when those patients
Thank you. While this is just one step in the right direction in addressing the US maternal mortality crisis access to these resources can mean life or death for rural moms, and I urge my colleagues to please, please, please help me push this legislation forward and just wanted to give my support for H R ninety six ninety three. Thank you and on your back.
Thank you. Appreciate it. Now recognize the gentleman from Oregon, Mr. Bentz.
Uh thank you, Mr. Chair. Uh I I also want to talk about HR twelve fifty four. We in my um second largest district that's not a state i in in the United States, seventy thousand square miles uh have a a huge challenge when it comes to obstetrics and in fact, in uh little Baker City, Oregon, we've just lost our obstetrics department, which means that anyone presenting there has to drive forty five miles to the closest place and perhaps further if you go the other direction. So this this legislation is of of incredible interest to me uh for those for those or tho those reasons and and others across the district. Um one of the I'm a lawyer and I I represented uh hospitals and and doctors in mal medical malpractice suits. And the the cost of obstetric coverage is a lot, um about a hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year. So I am curious, um, doctor, uh the uh that would the the the challenge of training people up is one thing, but it's quite another then to have the money to pay uh for the coverage necessary. Can you share your thoughts on what we might do in in in being able to actually afford to have people try to practice obstetrics when they're trained up but not really uh a a a doctor?
Yeah, thank you for that. Um you know, it was mentioned earlier about the number of patients who are having deliveries that are paid for by Medicaid. It's about a little over forty percent in the United States of births are paid for by Medicaid. And ultimately we know that Medicare informs the Medicaid pay rates. So one of the key parts of keeping labor and delivery unit closures, and this is a multifactorial problem with lots of financial pressures, right? as you the costs are difficult to cover, there's the high p cost of malpractice insurance as you mentioned, um lower birth rates in uh oral areas, ultimately it's very difficult and costly for around the clock OB OB staffing, that if we can help to stabilize in all honesty the Medicare payment, that will hopefully help to influence and inform the Medic Medicaid payment rates that will ideally be one of the many solutions we can have to keeping these labor and delivery units open across our nation.
Uh actually the the the question that I've had and when I was in the Oregon legislature, we addressed this issue never successfully, was in some fashion trying to provide protection to the OBS that were that were that were practicing in these spaces and saying hey, uh these risks are extremely difficult to manage, particularly if you don't have an OB uh physician on on staff, and particularly if you're trying to hold the the situation stable as you're driving, literally, uh not necessarily hundreds of miles, But it but it's possible. And and this brings us to the the the attempts that we've made in the in the big beautiful bill to put uh millions of dollars into these rural hospitals to to try to help. But we've created uh different situations in our tort law that makes uh the the the the error that may occur in that process uh extremely attractive to uh lawyers and and frankly, the damage is so great. when a little uh n newborn is harmed, that it's it's difficult to to to even recognize how in the world one's gonna pay those bills. What I'm trying to get at here is, is this enough that we train these people up, or do we need to broaden the scope of this bill or add to it after I hope it passes, uh to to address this tort liability problem?
You know, I appreciate the the emphasis on the importance of the role of CETRIC's right in this act and how it really does help to provide um fill in the gap of when there's not an OBGYN available. And, you know, certainly we want more obstetric providers across the country to be able to be in those spaces to be able to work in those hospitals. We wanna work with our colleagues um across the House of Medicine to be able to safely manage obstetric emergencies. Um and we want to to work with Congress to be able to get this bill across the finish line.
The the the the bill also contains a pilot program for teleconsultation, and this has been something that's coming up again and again in rural areas in all kinds of practice areas. But the challenge always is who is the doctor going to be on the i that's going to be called and to to opine over the line so to speak. So what's your thought there? Should we be addressing uh more than merely the the provision of the equipment? Because uh uh no it does say you have to have qualified physicians on the providing the information over the line. But would you as a as a doctor want to be opening yourself up to liability as the one who instructs folks uh over the line, so to speak?
Well certainly um teleconsultation has been done in other settings. For example, telestroke is available for t stroke patients. And so there's opportunities to look at this. I mean in in Rhode Island we have functionally a literal phone that everyone knows that they can call to that perinatal safety officer that they can get them twenty four seven to be able to move that patient and get ahold of that. So I think as you develop those relations,
Thank you so much. Heel back.
Gentleman heels back now, recognize the gentlelady uh Doctor Schreier for her five minutes.
Thank you, Mister Chairman and ranking member and witnesses. Uh I am excited about several bills today. The first I wanna talk about is the the bill that I lead with Congresswoman Kelly, uh HR twelve fifty four, the Rural Obstetrics Readiness Act. Um it is included in today's hearing and I'll tell you that in the wake of the one trillion dollar cut to Medicaid uh rural hospitals are going to be pushed to the brink of closure many of them are already there and the first thing to close is labor and delivery and this bill is critical to keeping those moms and babies safe. Now I wanna pivot to the Patients First Act. as you, I'm sure, are not surprised. I am so thrilled that this committee is considering my bill, uh the Patients First Act. For the last year or over a year, Congresswoman uh Congressman John Joyce and I have been working together on this bipartisan Medicare physician reimbursement paske package that stabilizes Medicare payment, invests in primary care, and reduces administrative burden for doctors. This is long overdue. I've heard criticism in this hearing that this doesn't go far enough. But this is a great bill, and what we do here in Washington DC is all about the art of the possible. This product is the result of consensus between Democrats and Republicans, doctors, specialty physicians, primary care doctors, consumer groups, patients, and more. We have broad support from bipartisan members on this committee, and in ways and means. We've been able to gain this support for a simple reason. Fair reimbursement respects the work that physicians do and keeps practices open and available to patients so that seniors can get the care they need. And our bill tackles more than just stabilizing payment. We invest in the desperately needed primary care that is so foundational to wellness and managing chronic diseases and we also reduce administrative burden in the MIPS uh quality program. Thank you, Doctor Andrews, for your work and for painting such a beautiful picture of what primary ph- care physicians do for our patients over decades. Uh, quality metrics known as MIPs were really well-intentioned, but they have led to overwhelmingly burdensome administrative responsibility. It's like fifty-three hours and almost thirteen thousand dollars per physician per year to do this paperwork and yet with no clear improvements in outcomes. And if the doctors don't meet those metrics, they get penalized. And unsurprisingly, if you're a small practice in a rural area and you can't take on the administrative burden that a big hospital can, then you get penalized, and then that makes them more likely to get gobbled up by a giant system of private equity. Um, Doctor Alam, can you Can you speak to the MIPS measures just briefly that exist for dermatology, and whether they even apply to your specialty or measure actual quality?
Thank you for that question. I think the simple answer is they do not. Um, I think many measures are developed because they're simple to measure, or because some organization thought they might be a good idea. But the doctors involved who are dealing with patients on a daily basis are very seldom consulted. And while we spend a lot of time tracking these measures and reporting them like you said, it doesn't really help patients get better care.
That's right. And we hear that across the board. And that's why this bill makes sure that it's the physicians who are determining what are the best metrics to measure quality and that those are re-evaluated frequently that's so critical I just wanna say it is time for Congress to finally right this ship and to enact long-term reform to physician payment. We can't pass yet another short-term fix and leave everybody on edge till the end of the year like we've done for so many years. Without patients first, physician practices will continue to close or be bought out by large hospital systems, private equity or insurance companies, and that just raises the cost of care for everyone. And without support for primary care, we can expect to see fewer and fewer medical students pursue that path. Uh, I urge this committee to move this legislation straight to mark-up. We need to pass the Patients First Act immediately. Thank you. Yield back.
Gentlelady yields back. And I will now recognize the gentleman from Ohio, Mister Balderson.
Thank you, Mister Chairman. Um, thank you all for being here today. Um, my first question is for Doctor Pudelow. Um, How are you this morning, sir? Good afternoon now. I am a proud co-sponsor of HR thirty one sixty four, the Ensuring Community Access to Pharmaceutical Services Act. In many rural communities, the local pharmacy is the closest and most accessible place to receive care. This bill would allow Medicare to cover test for respiratory illnesses like RSV and strep throat when permitted by state law. How would this common sense change help seniors get care sooner and avoid unnecessary trips to the emergency room?
Excuse me. Thank you for your question, Congressman. Um I I would I would completely agree with your your assumption and and what we're trying to do with with the piece of legislation. Um H R thirty one sixty four is about giving seniors access, first and foremost. Um uh pharmacists already are in especially in Tennessee and and multiple other states already have this authority. We're just needing to make sure there's a payment
Thank you. And my rural pharmacists love this too, as you would assume. Um, my next question's uh for Doctor um uh Doctor, uh good to see you here. Um Uh, my next question's for you, sir. You noted in your testimony significant concerns about MIMPS and the administrative burdens it places on physicians. What reforms could Congress consider to improve the program for specialists?
I think to improve the program for specialists, the specialists should be involved in the process of developing the measures and better understanding, first of all, more research into understanding what does improve quality. and then finding ways to incorporate that in the routine delivery of care. I think the current system is predicated on a simple solution to a difficult problem, which is how to improve quality, and while it is well-intentioned, as um Congressman Schreier indicated, it's not meeting those goals. So I think we have to go back to the beginning, involve patients from different specialties, say what is it that would make your patients healthier? How could we get them more effective care? And then implement that.
Thank you, sir. Um, follow up to that, what roles could clinical data registries play in these reforms?
Clinical data registries are very important not only for reporting MIPs, as it currently stands, but also for understanding better the quality of care that's delivered and doing research into understanding what works. In dermatology we have such a registry called Dataderm that's been around since two thousand sixteen and has about seventy million encounters, and many other specialties. have these as well. Using those as a building block to better understand what works for our patients, will be very helpful in developing better measures.
Thank you very much, sir. Uh, my next question is for Doctor Andrews. Good afternoon, Doctor Andrews. Um, H O R sixty one thirty, the Alzheimer's Screening and Prevention Act, would provide Medicare coverage for blood-based test that direct Alzheimer's disease and related dementias at an early stage. How can Congress balance investments in early detection with continued funding for research into effective treatments and a cure?
Thank you and good afternoon. I think that Alzheimer's um you know, the American College of Physicians, we treat all chronic conditions. And diagnosing them as early as possible and finding treatments that work for them are an investment that as you said needs to be balanced. But when we're preventing downstream effects, whether it's um leaving a a patient without access or causing high-cost admissions because we haven't diagnosed the cause of something um the patients first act along with looking at, as my colleague Doctor Alam said, what works for patients, what kind of quality outcomes do we have, would be a way to balance that. So making sure that treatments do what they're supposed to do, um and that we can get them to patients. as early as possible with diagnosis.
Thank you very much. Um, my last question is for Mister Garcia and we have about thirty seconds, sir. Rural and smaller hospitals, excuse me, face serious cyber threats, but often lack the staff and resources of the larger health care systems. How can Congress help these hospitals strengthen their cyber security without imposing unnecessary requirements?
Well I think that's a very good question, uh Congressman, uh I I think congressional funding to assist uh rural the nation's rural hospitals uh for um the kinds of workforce and technology needs uh that will help secure them a- and also building mutual assistance support across communities in rural areas. Um I think there is strength in numbers and we produced a report called On the Edge which um interviewed forty executives in rural um providers across thirty states and uh really workforce was probably their number one need they knew what needed to be done they know what needs to be done in cyber security but they don't have um the expertise the resources and the and the people thank you very much Mister Chairman I yield back
Thank you very much Mister Chairman. I
Jan gentleman yields back now recognize uh Mister Landsman for his five minutes.
Uh thank you Mister Chair and uh thank you to you and the ranking member for
uh this hearing today I wanted to uh say how much I appreciated the testimony uh for each of our witnesses uh very supportive of the Patients First Act I wanna thank my colleagues uh for for leading this uh and uh all of the additional suggestions around uh physician pay I I think are really important I'm gonna get into those uh a little bit more uh the national plan for for Epilepsy Act, I just wanna say how important that is and and Gabby I really appreciated your testimony and your family being here today. I know this isn't easy and uh I've found it to be so incredibly compelling and obviously this is something we need to act on. The Rural uh Obstetrician uh Obstructer, sorry uh Readiness Act is so incredibly important. The the piece I wanna get into today is around pay and what's at the core of this health care crisis, the fact that costs are skyrocketing, care is diminishing, uh the ability to see a doctor is becoming more and more problematic. And there are three things that Congress has uh not done. One is obviously kept up with physician pay. Congress has decided not to pay physician physicians what they need to be paid, uh and that combined with the fact that Congress has decided that physicians will get paid less if they do it on their own as opposed to if they do it with a hospital. So, w- w- Congress has said, we're we're going to pay hospitals more for the exact same procedure if the procedure is done with the hospital as opposed to if it's an independent, uh, physician-owned practice. And then three, Congress has refused to rein in, uh, private equity, Wall Street, and the consolidation that's happening throughout the entire economy, but certainly health care. And all of this has conspired to, uh, you know, uh, uh, t- you know, to increase costs, huge cost increases for patients. Uh, the Kettering Foundation tells this story, and it's, it's, uh, emblematic of stories I hear all the time, of a patient in Ohio who had a procedure Uh, and if i- if that procedure had been done with a physician that she found, in the physician's office it would cost three thousand dollars. But because, uh, of, uh, who owned, uh, the, the s- surgery center and where the, uh, the, the insurer wanted this procedure be taking place, it was taking place at a hospital for six thousand dollars. So she ended up paying three thousand dollars more because of this. And I hear this from physicians all the time, which is When I was on my own, I charged eight hundred dollars. But now that I got bought up and I I work now for the hospital or this insurance company or a private equity firm, uh, it costs patients twenty-three, twenty-six hundred dollars, two to three to four times more. Uh, this is at the heart of this health care crisis. The You know, how we got here I think is really important. Congress has not updated the Medicare physician fee and uh schedule since two thousand fifteen. The uh American Medical Associates uh Association estimates that between twen two thousand one twenty twenty five physician pay for Medicare increased by seven percent while medical practice costs rose by fifty nine percent. Physician payment payments have dropped by thirty-three percent uh since two thousand one, as we've heard. As of January six uh January this year, sixty-four percent of all physician practices were owned by or corporate entities. Eighty-two percent of all doctors now work for the hospital, a corporation, the insurer, or private equity. Eighty-two percent of all doctors. Investors are coming in and buying up our local clinics, hospitals, and doctors' offices. Uh, this has obviously s- uh, led to skyrocketing costs. Uh, doctor alarm uh, dermatology is obviously w- uh, places been hit, if Congress does not improve reimbursement rates, rein in private equity, change the way we reimburse doctors or hospitals, what will be the impact of patient care?
The impact on patient care will be fewer places to find a doctor, much longer waits, dramatically worsened disease processes, um, advanced cancers, deaths that are avoidable, um, all the things that you already mentioned. We don't really know what we're gonna do, how we're gonna deliver the services that our patients need. when costs keep going up every year and we are paid less every year. We support practices, we support staff, we need space, all of that costs money.
Uh, thank you. Uh, uh, Mister Chair, uh, Congress needs to increase r- uh, reimbursement rates for physicians. Congress needs to rein in Wall Street and private equity and stop the consolidation, break this stuff up. And Congress needs to stop paying hospitals more money for the exact same procedure uh if it's done at a hospital versus a privately owned uh uh doctor owned uh physician clinic. Thank you, I yield back.
Gentleman yields back, now recognizes the Chairman of the full committee, Mister Guthrie, for his questioning.
Thank you, thank you very much. I know we have a couple of hearings going on, so I've been in and out, so I may ask some stuff that you kinda touched on earlier, but it'd be good to kind of frame it the uh or frame the question and get it a more elaborate answer or elaboration. So uh so Doctor Al- Alamand Andrews Uh, MACRA was signed into law over a decade ago with the goal of moving past the need to enact annual doc fixes and tran transitioning the Medicare program to value-based care yet many of these issues still persist we're looking at annual doc fix coming up could you speak to how many of the and so Dr. Alam and then Dr. Andrews how many ref of the reforms being discussed would address these challenges and what do the reforms ultimately mean for citizens access to care?
I think many of the reforms in the Patient First Act would address some of these challenges. One big problem that's been highlighted is there's really not been an inflation adjustment since about two thousand one. So, twenty-five years of inflation rising, but costs remaining the same, uh, reimbursements remaining the same is a big problem. Another big problem is budget neutrality. Budget neutrality means the pies of a fixed size. If some part of the medical system is paid a little more, some practitioners paid a little more, someone else has to take a pay cut. When the overall pie is shrinking based on inflation anyway, that sort of double hit makes it even harder for practitioners. And then finally, as we've heard, there are many administrative rules that are burdening patients, making it harder for them to spend their limited time seeing patients, and are in fact forcing consolidation, because independent practices just cannot meet these administrative burdens. So we are hopeful that y your committee and Congress will consider the Patient First Act since while it doesn't solve every problem we think it's a very important step to mitigating this decades-long erosion of our capacity to take care of patients.
Okay. Doctor Andrews?
I concur a hundred percent, especially with the fact that this is one of the first acts which allows all physicians of all specialties to work together, instead of pitting one um loss versus one gain. A couple of the other things that the Patients First Act does that is really important, is this five year hybrid payment that will allow for um primary care to not only have fee for service but also a separate payment that will help us do the things that we know actually matter if my pharmacist from my office calls patients and makes sure they're taking their medications that helps them stay out of the hospital, but I need a way to be able to pay for that. And so that allows for innovation that truly improves quality. And then I think we're all in agreement today that having clinicians and physician organizations able to influence the quality uh measures that we are, are looking at is really important. Let's measure what matters, what produces longer lives and healthier patients.
Okay, thanks. And so you talked to pharmacy as well, so I'm gonna switch to Do- Doctor Putilow. As as this committee considers m policies to modernize the Medicare payment policies, what role can pharmacists play in enhancing seniors' ability to get care they need, and especially like I have in rural areas?
Um, yeah, uh thank you for your que for the question, Chairman. Um, I'll I'll kind of piggyback a little bit off of Dr. Andrews as well, um, cuz there's a lot of different ways that pharmacists can provide um services in the system um but I I know specifically um I'm here I wanna really emphasize again the valuable role of of H R thirty one sixty four. That that that alone, that type of service that is already happening um for a lot of patients in your state, but where there's compensation from um Medicaid and commercial plans but not Medicare, that's a problem. Um and thirty one sixty four is really ultimately a a cost solution for Medicare. It's letting w if a if a senior's not getting this service paid for, they're going to an emergency room that's much more costly, they're facing the bill, we need to have coverage um at the state level for such uh services that pharmacists are allowed to provide.
Thank you. Yeah, I I agree. Uh there's Pharmacists could be miles, hours f- away from a local medical provi a health a medical provider of a fac- or a health care facility and they're all in all communities, so it's important to do. So, Mister Garcia, before we go, so we talked about regulatory burdens and paperwork burdens and all the others. So, Health Care Cy- Cybersecurity and Resiliency Act, d before us today includes several po- more policies to coordinate planning HHS for cyber security. Uh, are there any additional policies you believe would further enhance HHS's ability to address health care cyber security without risking duplication or excess burdens on the providers?
No, I I don't think there's more regulation needed on the health care sector. One of the areas that's m- most essential to us is the fact that so many of these health care providers and large hospitals are depending on third-party technology and services that are not regulated, that are not held to higher cyber security standards, uh, particularly for critical infrastructure industries like health care. And the end result of that is, um, my colleagues here on the panel and other hospitals are left holding the bag when uh the technology goes dark. And so I think we need, and it's not just HHS's responsibility or CISA, but we need to think holistically about how we can have
Yeah, okay. I asked you a long question and it didn't give you much time to
That's all right, sorry.
I hate doing that, I hate when people do that when I'm sitting in the chair so I apologize and I will yield back, I apologize.
Gentleman yields back and uh you want me to go to Miss Houchin first? No, I don't mind a bit. Uh, recognize gentlelady from Indiana, Miss Houchin, for her five minutes question.
Thank you, Mister Chairman, and thank you f to the witnesses for being here today. Um, our nation's hospitals are facing increasingly serious cyber security threats, ensuring that the health care system has the tools and safeguards necessary to protect against these malicious actions are critical. Every cyber attack has the potential to impact hundreds, thousands, or even millions of individuals. And in health care the consequences go much farther than a simple stolen password or a compromised computer system. Recent cyber attacks, including those in my district, have resulted in canceled surgeries and appointments, payment system outages, and even an inability to provide emergency care. The Department of Health and Human Services has reported a staggering three hundred and twenty-nine reported breaches this year involving hacking or information technology incidents at health care providers and health plans. These threats pose even greater risks to rural hospitals, which may serve as on the only source of care for miles and often have fewer financial and personal personnel resources to prevent and respond to cyber attacks. And the reported breaches are only those of of a greater than five hundred patient uh impact. That's why I'm pleased to see H R nine nine zero eight, the Rural Hospital Cybersecurity Enhancement Act, included in today's hearing and I wanna thank my colleague, Congresswoman Schreier, for her partnership on this bipartisan bill. Our bill takes a targeted approach by directing HHS to develop a comprehensive rural hospital cyber security workforce strategy, expand cyber security training resources and improve preparedness against these growing threats. Mister Garcia, in your testimony you emphasized the importance of structured coordination between HHS and CISA and the health care sector. How could this bill improve that coordination between the entities and what gaps are there in the current federal response that this legislation could address?
Well, I w- I can tell you that Um, HHS and the sector council are very well focused on the rural health care issue and the resource constraint, not just rural, um, those that just don't have the resources. Um, I I think there is a lot that the government can do to help, but there's also work being done on the private sector's side in in the form of mutual assistance and partnership and and I'll highlight one one issue for the uh for the congresswoman from from Texas that there is um, a a a an initiative going on right now called Secure Texas in which, um, they are looking to improve the interoperability and security of health care data, and they're using, um, an accreditation system to train people, uh, young students in college, uh, to learn good health care cyber security using the tools that my council has produced, accrediting them, and then placing them. in health care organizations, particularly rural and resource constrained providers. So that's a good example of where government and industry, in this case state government, are working together to help rural providers.
Great, thank you. And I wanna turn to the Patients First Act, uh, HR nine six nine three. Uh, this will provide much needed stability and predictability into the Medicare physician fee schedule while also improving incentives for value-based care. I'm proud to cosponsor this legislation and I'm grateful to Doctor Joyce for his leadership on this important issue. Uh Doctor Andrews, in your testimony you highlight how essential a healthy primary care physician workforce is to improving patient outcomes. Uh what would the reforms proposed in this bill mean for primary and independent providers, especially in rural areas? And in what other line of work do we pay people less if they are more efficient in doing their jobs?
That's a great question. Um, I guess the same kind of industry where you can bill and then have it automatically down coded and sent back to you for less reimbursement. Um, you know the Patients First Act, I have to say again, is the first bit of hope I've had in a long time for primary care, especially the independent practices that produce just absurdly great outcomes for their patients. Being able to have this stable payment, both from the physician fee, schedule but also correcting the, you know, three decades of inflationary losses will really allow a stable, um, business model for people to open their own practices and just those who were in practice to continue.
Thank you.
And then I love the part about, you know, uh, paying them for innovation.
Yes, ambitious. Thank you. In the remaining time I have, I just wanna note that in the Working Families Tax Cuts Act we did include uh a fix for the physician fee schedule uh which was subsequently uh supplanted by the efficiency adjustments which I hope that we will soon correct, and I'm proud to see this legislation uh as a subject of this hearing today. Thank you. I yield back.
And gentlelady yields back now, recognized gentleman from Georgia, Mister Carter.
Thank you, Mister Chairman. Mister Chairman, before I begin I would like to ask that um unanimous consent to enter into the record supportive statements from the National Consumers League, the patient's rising in nearly a dozen other national patient consumer and provider advocacy organizations.
Without objection, so ordered.
Thank you, thank you. First of all, I want to express um my thanks to my colleagues, particularly on both sides of the aisle, particularly to uh to the General Lady from New York, Congresswoman Clark, who has for nearly a decade um worked with me on needed vision bin and fit manager reforms. And I am saying PPM and V as in vision. Many of you know me as Mister PBM and I'm not talking about PBMs in this case, I'm talking about VPMs. National surveys showed that um health care affordability and control of important health decisions remain one of the top talku topics that people are concerned about and the growing insurer consolidation that I pointed out in pharmacy is also spreading in other parts of of health care as well, including in vision management. It's making our health care too expensive and too restrictive. Doctor Alam and Doctor Andrews, both of you have testified that payment pressure and administrative burdens are pushing independent practices towards consolidation. Doctor Alam, when independent practices disappear, what changes for patients in term of access, choice, and cost did this create?
When independent disappear, people first have to travel very often further, because some of the first independent practices to go away are those in rural areas, and also when there's consolidation there's less incentive for those large practices to even develop areas and l rural areas which are often less profitable. In addition, because there are fewer places overall, people have to wait in line to get an opportunity to go there, which means they're often gonna have more advanced disease, have suffering, and often have irreversible harm that could have been prevented had they seen someone sooner and then finally of course the costs go up because the
Right.
consolidated entities are very good at negotiating higher rates with commercial insurers and creating other barriers to care.
In other words, what we need is more competition. Doctor Andrews, you wanna comment on this?
I do. I would agree that when we close practices and patients have to drive farther, and they have to give up days in their own income. That means that they're gonna present less frequently um for control of their diseases, which means they're going to cost the whole system, but more importantly their quality of life is not going to be what it could be. So supporting independent practices, being able to stabilize uh the physician fee schedule would go a long way to enhancing, especially in those areas where staff cost more, such as those rural environments.
And you know I've often said that at the end of the day, whether you're a Republican, a a Democrat or an Independent, we all want the same thing when it comes to health care. We want affordable, accessible, quality health care. And accessibility is being impacted by consolidation. You know, uh particularly in the rural areas as you point out, and I I've seen it in pharmacy. Pharmacists are the most accessible health care professionals in America. Almost eighty-eight percent of all Americans live within five miles of a pharmacy. As pharmacies begin to close as a result of the PBM pressures that are put on them, then we impact accessibility to healthcare. I would also be remiss if I did not mention the funding that we put in the Working Families Tax Cut Act to help rural hospitals. That helps accessibility, so that's very important. I wanna talk mainly today about um vision benefit managers as I said, because this is something that's happened that is i i i through the consolidation and it's Highly concentrated, there are like there are two dominant vision benefit managers that cover roughly eighty-five percent of the two hundred and twenty Americans with vision benefits now we all know vision insurance is important and we appreciate it, but at the same time when you've got this kind of concentration, it does not lead to competition and therefore it leads to an increase in prices, a decrease in accessibility, which is not what we want. Doctor Atwood, you testified that the current Medicare payment system has contributed to physician practice consolidation. How do you how do um unstable reimbursement and take it or leave it, pay your contracts, affect a small practice's ability to remain independent?
Uh similar to what my other colleagues have said, you know, as the payment cuts have gone into a effect over the course of time and we've seen how that has occurred over the past twenty-five years, it does inc have increase in consolidation of of physician practices which include OBGYN physician practices who do ca care of Medicare pa patients as well.
Absolutely. I want to end on on one note. I had the opportunity during a a hear not a hearing but a meeting of this committee of the not the health subcommittee but the Ener the full Energy and Commerce committee, and the CBO, the Congressional Budget Office, we had the director and we had twenty of their staff members there I asked them directly, give me one example of where consolidation in health care has decreased cost. They could not give me one example. Folks, we've gotta do something about this, particularly in vision management, particularly in pharmacy management. Otherwise, health care costs are never gonna come down and accessibility is gonna be impacted as well. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I yield back.
Chairman yields back. Now I recognize the gentlelady from California, Miss Baragon.
Uh thank you, Mr. Chairman. Today if a senior with Medicare sees a nurse practitioner or a physician's assistant for their diabetes care, they must go through a complicated process to get therapeutic shoes that help prevent diabetic foot ulcers. This means delays that leave patients at a higher risk of more serious health complications, and more expensive care. Uh that's one of the reasons I'm proud of uh co-sponsor That's rea- that's one of the reasons I'm glad Uh the promoting access to diabetic shoes act is included today, which I introduced with Representative Lohood to remove administrative barriers so that seniors can more easily access the diabetic shoes that they need. So with that I would like to submit for the record a letter of support from uh twenty-five organizations.
Uh without objection.
Thank you.
So ordered.
I look f thank you. I look forward to working with the committee to advance uh that bill. Uh Doctor uh Pudlow, you mentioned in your testimony that pharmacists are among the most accessible health care professionals in America. And for seniors, uh pharmacists are often the health care professional they see most frequently, uh the medication experts they trust most, and a critical member of their care team. Um I know personally um my father uh had Parkinson's when I was growing up um And we always went to this local pharmacy, we could just walk right in, we saw him, he knew our name, um if there was ever a problem, we were short one pill, he could advance it, and it was really great service. It was um something that fifty years later I can walk into that same pharmacy and get that type of service. So as flu season uh starts, we know that uh black and Latino, older Americans on Medicare are less likely to get vaccinated. then they're white counterparts. How can community pharmacists help address these disparities in vaccinations?
Um thank you, Congresswoman, uh for for your question, um I I think I'll draw some comparisons to some of the conversation we've had with uh thirty one sixty four, um and you know while that bill isn't directly discussing vaccinations, I think uh you can look at how we are trying to give seniors access to uh testing services um and treating services by pharmacists. You know, I think access alone, um, it it it's not gonna reduce any kind of disparities. It comes from trust. And as you you highlighted, pharmacists uh build that trust over decades, uh like your father. And um, you know, that kind of relationship creates those opportunities for open dialogue between a pharmacist and a patient um education and those types of preventative services, like vaccines.
Well, thank you, this uh recently happened where my mother who's now eighty-five with Alzheimer's, although she's now bed-bound, several months ago when she s so could walk, walked right into the pharmacist uh to pick something up and they just having a reminder of a a vaccine she needed and she was able to get it on the spot, and didn't hesitate. Um, trying to get her to a doctor's office uh is a little more challenging, so um uh this is one of the reasons that I cosponsor the insuring community access to pharmacist services act, which would improve Medicare coverage of essential care provided by pharmacists including tests for a common respiratory illnesses such as strep, um flu um and COVID-nineteen. Uh Doctor Andrews, uh my next question is for you, as you highlighted in your testimony a primary care physician is your health guide over the course of your life, and that this relationship builds a trust that produces better outcomes. Yet nearly a third of Americans lack access to a regular primary care provider, and less than five percent of all health care spending goes to primary care. What is consolidation in the health care system and what could more consolidation mean for patient's e- ability to access and afford primary care.
Unfortunately, consolidation has been shown to increase costs versus the lower-cost high-quality care we see in independent practices. I think one of the other things that consolidation does is when you're putting profits first and patient second then there's a push for volume over quality. So Tagging it back to what you mentioned earlier, and the patient first act with that up front per member fee hybrid model. Maybe I'm sitting in the office talking to my Black or Latino patients and saying,
Yeah.
let's get a vaccine, and that's the most important thing I might do that day, and that's something you don't see or have the time for, or the liberty to do with consolidation.
And how does the current Medicare payment system impact doctors' ability to stay independent?
Unfortunately, you know, going three decades without an inflation increase in payment, um, staff costs have increased and then the burdens of, you know, MIPS, even as well-intentioned as it was, what has happened is people have to make decisions, I still wanna practice medicine, I might have to shutter my doors, and then they become employed, um, and it it reduces access, rural offices are more
Well, thank you for that. It's why I co-sponsor the patients for a sec. With that, I yield back.
General Lady is back.
Chairman, can I ask the General Lady who her favorite pharmacist is? Just to
Well, we we already all know the answer. I now recognize the gentleman from Florida,
Hey buddy, I like you, but I've got several
who's
pharmacists in my family, so I can't I can't say that. But you're you're my favorite pharmacist here at this particular hearing at this particular time.
My pleasure.
Thank you very much. I appreciate it, Mr. Chairman. I appreciate the committee considering my bill, HR seven eight six three, the promoting fairness for Medicare Providers Act. In uh today's hearing, I'm proud to lead the bipartisan effort with uh my friend, Representative Ruiz. and of course, Doctor Murphy and and Davis. Today, many procedures that once required a hospital visit can be performed safely and conveniently in a physician's office. I've seen it with my own eyes. But Medicare's payment system has not kept up. For procedures that require expensive medical supplies, Medicare may not reimburse physician offices enough to cover the costs of of those supplies unfortunately. That leaves doctors with a difficult choice, observe the loss or send the patient to a hospital or surgical center where the same care will cost more. Uh, for seniors that means more travel and longer waits, particularly in the rural areas. For taxpayers it means paying more than necessary. And for independent practices it's one more financial strain at a time when many are already struggling to stay open. We see that too every day. My uh my bill provides a straightforward, targeted solution. For a narrow group of procedures involving high-cost supplies, Medicare would reimburse qualified physician offices at ninety percent of what it would pay an ambulatory surgical center. That gives physicians a fair opportunity to cover the cost of providing the care while still preserving savings for Medicare. This is a common sense way to provide Medicare's payment system in line with how care is delivered today, all while providing more choice and lower cost to patients. But addressing this specific problem is only one part of the broader work we need to do to strengthen Medicare physician payment. I'm uh also proud to be an original co-sponsor of HR ninety-six ninety-three, the Patients First Act. And I wanna thank uh representatives Doctor Joyce and Doctor Schreier for their leadership on this effort's it's a bipartisan effort, and I understand both doctors caucuses endorse this bill. The bill would provide physicians with greater stability and predictability, reduce unnecessary administrative burdens, and help protect the care that millions of seniors rely on. So, Doctor Alam, uh, I hope I pronounced that right, uh, you testify that declining payments and growing administrative burdens are placing significant pressure on independent practices. Uh, question number one for you, sir. In your view, how does that ultimately affect patients' access to care and their ability to choose their physician? You also described the concerns your students have about reimbursement uncertainty as well. But if you could answer that question for me, uh elaborate please, doctor.
Yes, I think the the main way that these um these effects are seen is by both delay and availability. So people can't get the care they need when they need it, and they have to travel much further to get it. I can give you an example that I saw recently, a gentleman, a farmer with a growing cancer around his eye. Um, he had a little bit of denial, kind of really worried, maybe he thought he might lose his eye. Finally, his daughter took a day off and drove literally a hundred miles from southern Illinois to see me, and I was able to reassure him that it wasn't fatal, that we could save his eye,
Mm.
and we could do the whole procedure that day, and he was much happier. He went from being shaking and panicky to being relaxed and was able to go back, but it would have been great for him if that care hadn't come so late, and if it had come closer to home. So I think that's the fear we have, that this is a gradual erosion, and care is gonna get harder to find, and he'll have to wait longer and longer.
Yeah, we don't want that. That's for sure. It's not good for our constituents or our families. What decisions are they making differently because of that uncertainty as far as the students are concerned? uh the reimbursement uncertainty. And how could uh the Patients First Act change those calculations?
At present most of the people who finish residency training in dermatology are going to work for large groups, hospital groups, private equity groups, because they get this s guarantee of some salary for a year or two. And even though it's a difficult environment and they know they're not providing the best care for their patients and their hands are tied by all kinds of bureaucratic constraints, they have to survive. So we have to give them a fighting chance to have an independent practice.
Thank you very much. I I yield back, Mr. Chairman. Gentleman yields back, now recognize the gentlelady from uh uh Iowa, Doctor Miller-Meeks.
Thank you, Mister Chairman, and thank you to our witnesses for being here today. As a physician who has spent more than two decades caring for patients, maybe three decades, I've seen firsthand how important it is to have a Medicare payment system that allows doctors to focus on what matters most, providing high quality care to patients. I've also seen how difficult it is for phys- physicians, particularly those practicing independently, as I have, and in rural communities, as I have, to navigate a payment system that is increasingly complex, unpredictable, and disconnected from the realities of practicing medicine. Our goal should be straightforward. Make sure p- Medicare supports access to high quality care, reward physicians for delivering better outcomes, and provide patients with the choices they deserve. Unfortunately, the current system does not always accomplish these goals. Physicians are facing facing rising practice costs, workforce shortages, administrative burdens, increasing pressure con- consolidate into larger health systems, simply to remain financially viable while they're combating the very insurance uh companies and providers who deny their claims even though they ultimately will be accepted. And this is particularly concerning in rural America. In Iowa, we know that when an independent practice closes or a rural hospital is forced to reduce services physicians ca- or patients can't simply find another provider down the street they may have to drive an hour or much further to receive care. That's why I believe we need to move toward a Medicare payment system that is predictable transparent and focused on outcomes. That is the goal behind the Medicare Physician Data Driven Performance Payment System Act, which I introduced with Congressman Conaway. H. R. eighty-six twenty-two would give us an opportunity to rethink how Medicare rewards physicians for delivering high-value care and achieving meaningful outcomes. We should be looking for ways to move beyond a simple payment for volume of services provided and instead recognize the quality and value of care physicians deliver. But as we consider payment reform, we also need to make sure that our policies do not unintentionally disadvantage smaller practices, independent physicians, or providers serving in rural and underserved uh communities, as was done in the Affordable Care Act in driving consolidation. A payment model that works for a large health system in an urban area may not work for a two or three physician practice in rural Iowa. We need flexibility, reliable data, and a recognition of the very different circumstances in which physicians practice. And let me give you an example. I had recruited two ophthalmologists to Burlington, Iowa, a count of about twenty-six thousand to thirty-six thousand individuals, and there was already an existing ophthalmologist. There are now no ophthalmologists practicing in Burlington, Iowa, a travesty. And just as we need to make sure our health care system is financially sustainable, We also need to make sure it is secure. Cyber-attacks are no longer simply an information technology problem, they are a patient care problem. When the hospital systems go down, physicians may lose access to medical records, pharmacies may be unable to process prescriptions, and patients may see procedures delayed or cancelled. These disruptions can be particularly devastating for rural hospitals and smaller providers that lack the financial resources of a larger health system. Government has a role to play, health systems and technology companies have a role to play, and providers have a role to play. Our policies should encourage all of these stakeholders to take reasonable steps to protect sensitive patient information and ensure that health care can continue when a cyber-attack occurs. Ultimately, these two issues, Medicare payment reform and cyber-security are about the same thing, ensuring that patients can continue to access high-quality care. Whether it's a senior uh in a tumwa seeing her physician, a farmer in rural Iowa receiving care close to home, or a patient undergoing a complex procedure at a major medical center our health care system has to be there when patients need it. We should pursue reforms that strengthen independent practices. I see that you're nodding heads, so thank you for that. Preserve access in rural communities, reward quality and value, and protect the health care infrastructure Americans depend on. I look forward to working with my colleagues and our uh presenting witnesses are physicians here
Jen Leibs back now recognize Mister Carter of Louisiana for five minutes of questioning.
Thank you, Mister Chairman, uh under the failed leadership of the Trump administration, we've seen the largest cuts to Medicaid in history and ACA premiums have skyrocketed. Patients and providers are already feeling the effect of the big ugly law. As people become uninsured, waiting room times increase, providers covered uncompensated care and facilities close. This is on top of the already severe physician shortage in the US, is currently experiencing an existing barriers to primary care, particularly in rural and underserved communities like those in Louisiana, where seventy-three percent of the residents, including Those throughout the parishes in my district live in a primary care health professional shortage area. We must take action to support providers and patients by fixing our flawed payment system and strengthening healthcare access before it's too late. Uh, Doctor Andrews. H R nine six nine three, the Patient First Act includes a five-year pilot program that adopts a hybrid payment structure. where independent primary care providers can provide can receive per month payments along the regular service fee, how would this bolster the primary care workforce and lead to better health outcomes for patients?
Thank you for that great question. It it allows us to do in primary care the things that traditional fee-for-service doesn't cover, which is me going into my patient records and figuring out who's due for a mammogram, reaching out to them or having my staff reach out to them, so that instead of just ordering another mammogram, we can capture it, um, and know that we're providing quality screening and quality care.
And what and what will happen what will happen if Congress does not act on the fee schedule um reform this year?
You will see an even greater primary care shortage than you have today.
Thank you. Doctor Doctor Padula, pharmacists are often one of the most accessible health care providers, particularly in stress in States. like mine where access to primary care is limited. This is especially true during COVID-nineteen, when our independent pharmacy stepped up to play a critical role in providing testing of vaccines. For a Medicaid beneficiary who could not get an appointment with a primary care provider, how can access to pharmacists provided testing and treatment under H R thirty-one sixty-four help to avoid a more expensive emergency room visit?
Mm-hmm.
Um thank you for the question uh Congressman Congressman. Um HR thirty one sixty four does exactly that. Um pharmacists based on their scope of practice at the state level has these authorities and we've already seen that in twenty eight other states right now that have that authority and we are seeing patients come to that pharmacy for those services however you're not seeing Medicare cover that service. We're seeing Medicaid and and commercial plans do that but not Medicare and that's what uh HR thirty one sixty four would help us do.
And and very quickly for the for the listeners and viewers, why should Medicare uh recognize and cover that service for beneficiaries?
Um to to me it's a it's a cost solution for Medicare. Right now that's that service is not being covered so that individual is going to the ER for care.
Where that cost oftentimes is exponentially greater in an
Um Exponentially.
emergency room and a curative care versus a preventive care.
Correct. Correct.
Thank you. Uh in my remaining time, I'd like to speak in favor of H R fifty one twenty one, Dental and Optometric Care, DOC access act. In Louisiana, we've already recognized that abuses uh abuses by vision benefit managers, VBMs, need to be addressed. This year, our state legislature unanimously passed comprehensive bipartisan VBM reform to protect patients and providers from restrictive contracting practices and preserve meaningful choice. However, state action alone is not enough. Congressional action is needed to close federal loopholes and to ensure Louisiana's protections cannot be simply side-stepped by vision plans who repeatedly avoid state provisions by asserting federal preemption, including ERISA exemptions. H R fifty-one fif fifteen twenty-one would address these concerns and ensure patient and doctors have meaningful protection regardless of how their vision plan is regulated. I'm pleased to support this bipartisan effort and ask that my colleagues move forward with this common sense step forward. We do not need to completely and continue to make healthcare more difficult for people to access, convoluted plans so they don't understand what their coverages are and play hide the ball for the American people. Uh I urge your continued stepping up as you have. Thank you for being here and I urge my colleagues uh to follow suit. Mister Chairman, I yield.
Gentleman yields back. Now we'll move to our our wave ons and we're gonna go to Miss McClellan of Virginia first. for her five minutes.
Thank you, Mister Chairman. Since passage of H R one, which I call the big ugly law, over one thousand hospitals, clinics and nursing homes have shut down cut services or at risk of doing so. These facilities are now stretched thin on the staffing and funding needed to keep their doors open, and the American people are paying the price. Expecting mothers, in particular, are having to travel farther and farther for maternity care. As of July one of this year, over forty maternity wards have shuttered their doors. In Virginia, Central Southside Community Hospital closed its labor and delivery unit in Farmville at the end of twenty twenty five, citing quote reductions in federal health care funding among the reasons for their decision. Between twenty twenty two And twenty twenty four, that hospital was the most common delivery hospital for women in Prince Edward County where it's located and the surrounding counties. Now, women like Tammy Janes has to drive an hour away to receive care. Now, Tammy shared her story with Charlottesville now. She was pregnant with her eighth child and near full term when she woke up in the middle of the night with a sense that something was wrong. She couldn't remember the last time she felt her baby kick and she thought about going to the emergency room at the Farmville Hospital a half hour away but it had already closed its obstetric services just weeks earlier. So Sammy switched to Central Virginia Health Services, a non-profit health care organization in Farmville whose services were limited, but it was close to home, but it wasn't open until the morning. So, Tammy had to drive she could either drive an hour to Lynchburg in the middle of the night or wait until the morning to go in her hometown. She waited because she already had an appointment scheduled for eight AM in Farmville. By morning, it was too late. The ultrasound showed no heartbeat. Now, reading Tammy's story, I couldn't help but think back when my placenta ruptured nine weeks before my due date, eleven years ago, when I had my daughter, I most certainly would not have survived an hour-long ambulance ride to the emergency room. And for too many people, getting the care they need now means traveling farther, waiting longer, paying more, or going without it altogether. And this is going to make an already bad maternal and infant mortality crisis even worse. Now one of the bills being considered today would confront this growing trend of maternity care deserts caused by labor and delivery unit closures. H R twelve fifty-four, the Rural Obstetrics Readiness Act, led by Representatives Kelly, Kim, Schreier and Maert Mauser seeks to close maternal health gaps in rural areas by funding emergency training, equipping non-obstetric facilities and expanding telehealth. I am a proud cosponsor of this bill, which will specifically establish federal grants for equipment, specialized training for rural staff, and pilot programs for urgent teleconsultation with a focus on areas like dedicated obstetric units. Now while H R twelve fifty-four doesn't solve systematic loss of labor and delivery units and hospital closures, it would repr provide real relief to communities, particularly rural ones, affected by these H R one driven closures. Now, Doctor Atwood, you have said in your testimony that the maternal health crisis is a multifactorial problem and includes sustainable payment rates as part of the solution. And while the Rural Obstetric Readiness Act doesn't touch reimbursement, if a facility is trained and equipped under this bill, but Medicare physician payments keep declining, as you note they have by thirty-three percent since two thousand and one, What is the risk to that facility's ability to sustain readiness to respond to obstetric emergencies?
Thank you for that and thank you for lifting up both your constituent's story and your story it highlights how important the Rural Obstetric Readiness Act truly is and how it can truly impact the health and well-being of our our patients across the country. To your point, our patients are needing care in their local communities and we do worry that if we cannot stabilize the Medicare physician fee schedule with the importance of many of the things putting forward in the Patients First Act, that more hospitals are going to close. This problem is only going to be compounded. It's not just the closure and consolidation of outpatient practices, which is an important detail both for primary care, surgical care, obstetrician gynecologists, but it will continue to close hospitals and continue to make this problem more and more difficult and ultimately uns more unsafe for our patients.
Thank you. I yield back.
Gentlelady is back now, recognize uh the gentlelady from New York, Miss Clark.
Good afternoon and thank you, Chairman Griffith. And let me thank our uh panel of witnesses for joining us today. I wanna take this time to highlight a bipartisan piece of legislation that I've led with my c- colleague Representative Buddy Carter, i which is HR fifteen twenty one, the dental an Optometric Care or Doc Access Act, which is being considered today. This legislation seeks to lower prices and puts control back into the hands of patients and their doctors. For far too long, our nation's health care system has increasingly grown out of reach for Americans across the country. Specifically, doctors and patients have been sounding the alarm about the practices of vision benefit managers, or VBMs. VBMs have engaged in rampant consolidation, vertical integration, which has led to rising costs, less transparency, and patients to have less control in deciding their care, the care they do recei they receive. These practices have resulted in companies having a monopoly in the vision market, so the same company that administers a patient's vision benefit, can operate retail locations, and be affiliated with filling prescriptions, and manufacture, manufacturing eyewear. It is clear, patients deserve lower costs, greater transparency, accountability, and the freedom to choose their care. Which is why we've introduced bipartisan legislation a common sense step toward addressing anti-competitive conduct and strengthening protections for patients. Additionally, I wanna take this opportunity to highlight another piece of legislation that would ensure the stability in Medicare provider payments and protect the patient's the care patients receive. I am proud to lead H R twenty-one ninety-nine, the Restore Protections for Dialysis Patients Act, alongside my colleagues, Rep Mike Kelly, Neal Dunn, Danny Davis, John Joyce, and Raul Ruiz, which would restore long-standing protections, preserve patient choice, and safeguard Medicare dollars. This bill is supported by most members in this committee some of whom are here today. Kidney disease is an urgent health equity crisis in our country. In my state of New York, tens of thousands depend on life-sustaining dialysis every week. And nationally, black Americans are nearly four times more likely to develop kidney disease. For more than forty years, people with kidney failure have been able to stay on their employers' health plans for thirty months. Now, third-party administrators are excluding dialysis coverage forcing patients off their plans, and disrupting access to dialysis, transplant evaluations, and other critical care. I wanna urge my colleagues to join me in moving this impactful and lifesaving bills forward and I wanna thank all of our experts who are here today for lending your expertise as we move forward uh in our quest to bring our uh medical infrastructure into the twenty-first century. With that, Mister Chairman, I yield back.
Gentlelady yields back. Now I recognize the gentleman from New York, Mister Tonko.
Thank you, Chair, and uh I thank the uh Chair Griffith and Ranking Member De Geet for hosting this important uh hearing today, examining legislative proposals to help strengthen physician payments and preserve patients' continued access to care. And thank you to all of our witnesses for being here and uh sharing advice and um and expertise. I would like to use this moment to briefly highlight a piece of legislation that I have co-authored uh that is the Radiation Oncology Case Rate Value-based Payment Program Act. This bill would set fair bundled Medicare payments for cancer radiation therapy to improve patient care and health outcomes. And while we're not considering the ROKR value-based payment act today, I would encourage the committee to support this bipartisan bill. It would provide payment stability and help offset the cost of future physician payment reforms including the Patients First Act which we are discussing today. That being said, I'm thrilled to see the inclusion of my bill, the Alzheimer's Screening and Prevention Act, or ASAP, which would create a pathway for Medicare coverage of FDA-approved blood biomarker screening tests. Over the years, I've gotten to know many people in our community that are living with the disease and have seen the heavy burden it places on them, and certainly their families. Take for instance my constituent Erin Vickers, who is a caregiver to her mother, who has Alzheimer's. She shared that it took months to get an appointment with a neurologist, and then several more months to get a diagnosis. To Erin, the inability to receive an early diagnosis was like a death sentence for her beloved mother. So, Doctor Rebecca Andrews, As you know, more than seven million Americans have Alzheimer's. It is the most common form of dementia, and unfortunately one in three seniors dies with Alzheimer's or another dementia. As the immediate past chair of the Board of Regents for the American College of Physicians, can you speak please to some of the challenges that physicians face in diagnosing and managing Alzheimer's?
Yes, and thank you for your question. Um I think we have covered how much access is limited for patients and why the Patients First Act is so important for stabilizing treatment. Um in addition, some of the things that it has in there, including this five year hybrid payment, would allow for certain things, like a conversation between myself and your constituent trying to plan for the future for her mother, advising her what the test for Alzheimer's would look like, because it's not a clear yes or no, comes out as a probability and that takes time to discuss. And then it allows for the important planning, such as any chronic condition, what do we need to do to get your life set up, your mom's life set up, so that you can appropriately care for her. And as we've said many times today, in the lower cost environments that provide a high quality of care for you, and this is just one disease and one example, but it is a growing problem that you highlight.
Thank you so much. And with the tool like a blood-based biomarker test, um, is it going to assist, do you believe, in earlier more accessible diagnoses?
Clinically, I can tell you that when people come in to the office worried about memory, their first question isn't just to mention in general, it's about Alzheimer's. And everyone is looking for a way to be able to diagnose it sooner, so that they can appropriately plan, enjoy the remaining time with their memory, and have time with their family. Um, I I certainly do think earlier diagnoses of all conditions allows for better care and better planning and with the new treatments that are on the horizon early diagnosis is important.
Thank you so much. Well, in closing, the uh bipartisan ASAP Act expands access to early detection and gives individuals and their families more time to plan, to start treatment and seek support when it matters most. And my hope is that we can get this legislation across the finish line ASAP. Uh, so, I thank you and yield back. Thank you, Mister Chair.
The gentleman yields back ASAP. And now we will move forward. I ask unanimous consent to insert in the record documents included in the Would like to thank all of our witnesses again for being here today. We had uh bonus questioners in our wave ons, which we always appreciate. Uh after today members may have additional written questions for you all. I'll remind members they have ten business days to submit questions for the record and I ask the witnesses to respond to the questions promptly. Members should submit their questions by the close of business on Tuesday, September Without objection, subcommittee is adjourned.
Well, thank you.
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