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Business meeting to consider pending calendar business.

Wednesday, July 15, 2026

Summary

  • The committee favorably reported NLRB nominees Jim Macy and David Prouty, BLS nominee Brett Matsumoto, and NEH nominee Michael McDonald to the Senate.

  • Bill Cassidy said Macy would clear the NLRB backlog, Matsumoto would fix flawed jobs data, and McDonald would combat campus antisemitism.

  • Bill Cassidy conditioned David Prouty's vote on Jim Macy's approval, telling Democrats he needed Macy reported before advancing Prouty to the Senate floor.

  • Sen. Sanders (I-VT) backed David Prouty but opposed Macy, Matsumoto and McDonald, while Republicans unanimously supported the three Trump nominees.

  • All four nominations now head to the full Senate, where confirmation would restore the NLRB quorum and install new BLS and NEH leadership.

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18:44 – 20:24

The Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions will please come to order. Uh, we still uh need a few more people here, so I'll make my remarks, um punil- punishing the people who came early. Uh, and then we will vote on two nominees to be members of the National Labor Relations Board or the NLRB. If confirmed, Mister Jim Macy and Mister David Prouty will be charged with resolving lab- labor disputes and protecting workers' rights under federal law. This means clearing the backlog of cases caused by the Biden administration and restoring certainty for workers and the nation's economy. Mister Prouty has been confirmed once before as he served as a member of the NLRB for the past five years, and has now been re-nominated by President Trump. Mister Macy has decades of legal experience as an attorney negotiating collective bargaining agreements he'll bring a common sense and on the ground perspective to board decisions. We now have the opportunity to put workers first to maintain the board's quorum, so it works as intended. In addition to the NLRB nominees, we'll also vote on Mr. Brett, excuse me, Doctor Brett Matsumoto's nomination to be Commissioner of Labor Statistics. The current jobs report process is broken, with significant revisions undermining trust in critical BLS products that impact everyday Americans' finances. If confirmed, Mister Matsumoto will be tasked with bringing transparency, innovation and accuracy to our nation's economic data. We're also voting on Michael McDonald to be Chairman of the National Endowment for the Humanities. Mister McDonald's confirmation will allow for further preparations for the nation's quintessential implementation of policies to combat anti-semitism on college campuses and reorganization of grant funding to deserving scholars. With that, I recognize Senator Sanders.

20:25 – 21:37

Thank you. Um, Mister Chairman, I support David Prouty's renomination to serve on the NLRB board. And I am opposed to President Trump's three other nominees that we are considering today. We need members of the NLRB who will protect the constitutional rights of workers to form a union. The vast majority of workers in America want to form unions. They are stopped illegally time and time again. And that is the kind of, those are the kind of people we need on the NLRB who will protect workers. In my view, Mister Prouty will do just that. Unfortunately, I'm afraid that William Macy, the Republican nominee, who has spent most of his career representing the interests of management, will not. Uh, but that's not just my opinion. More importantly, it's what the AFL CIO, representing fifteen million American workers, believe. On June twenty fifth, the AFL sa- uh, CIO sent us a letter stating, quote, "We urge you to defend the NLRB's independence and workers' access to a fair day in court by maintaining its quorum with the advancement of member Prouty's nomination and declining to report Mister Macy's nomination to the senate floor i ask mr. chairman i ask unanimous consent to

21:35 – 21:35

ok

21:37 – 22:33

enter this letter this letter into the record mr. chairman i ask unanimous consent to enter this letter into the record from the afl-cio without objection mr. chairman i will also vote no on mister masamoto's nomination to serve as the commissioner uh a commissioner of the bureau of labor statistics in my view we need a bls commissioner who will give us accurate and unbiased statistics on the unemployment rate in the American workforce not someone who will tell the president what he wants to hear. Unfortunately, I do not believe Mister Matsumoto will exercise the independence necessary for this important job. Finally, I'm opposed to Mister McDonald's nomination to serve as chairman of the National Endowment for the Humanities. Mister McDonald has repeatedly signed off on using NEH funds for projects that benefit President Trump and has repeatedly signed off on using NEH funds for projects that benefit President Trump including its attempt to build trump's absurd arch in a nation's capital without congressional authorization thank you mr. chairman

22:35 – 22:42

seeing that the quorum is present i will now move to favorably report mr. macy's nomination the clerk shall call the roll i shall be voting yes

Clerk22:43 – 22:44

senator paul

22:44 – 22:45

aye

Clerk22:45 – 22:46

senator collins

22:46 – 22:47

aye

Clerk22:47 – 22:48

senator mirkowski

22:48 – 22:48

aye

Clerk22:49 – 22:49

senator marshall

22:49 – 22:50

aye

Clerk22:50 – 22:50

senator scott

22:51 – 22:51

aye

Clerk22:51 – 22:52

senator holly

22:52 – 22:52

aye

Clerk22:52 – 22:53

senator tuberville

22:53 – 22:53

aye

Clerk22:54 – 22:54

senator banks

22:54 – 22:55

aye

Clerk22:55 – 22:56

sir he's

22:56 – 22:57

yes

Clerk22:58 – 22:58

center moody

22:58 – 22:59

aye

Clerk23:00 – 23:00

sir armstrong

23:01 – 23:02

aye i think that proxy votes interesting

Clerk23:02 – 23:03

senator sanders

23:03 – 23:03

no

Clerk23:04 – 23:04

senator murray

23:05 – 23:05

no by proxy

Clerk23:06 – 23:07

senator baldwin

23:07 – 23:08

no by proxy

Clerk23:09 – 23:09

senator murphy

23:10 – 23:11

no by proxy

Clerk23:11 – 23:12

senator kane

23:12 – 23:12

no

Clerk23:13 – 23:17

senator Hassan senator hickenlooper senator markey

23:17 – 23:18

no

Clerk23:18 – 23:19

senator kim

23:19 – 23:19

no

Clerk23:20 – 23:23

senator Blunt Rochester senator also brooks

23:24 – 23:24

no by proxy

Clerk23:26 – 23:26

Senator Husted.

23:26 – 23:26

Come here.

23:30 – 23:33

Getting him here. That's why the down is on the screen.

23:38 – 26:48

Unless the Democrat wishes to change their vote, we are going to wait for Senator Husted. But I will also inform that the passage of Mister Macy predicates what we do with Mister Prouty. mmm hmm oh hmm um hmm What? We told the Senator Husted is in the building, I will vote for Prouty if a Democrat will flip and vote for Macy, but we're not gonna bring up Prouty unless we get Macy on there. so i don't know about the future ideas ok when the building is coming up right now uh do you have to ask the other ones right now maybe no but what we're gonna do is we're gonna go to the other yeah we'll tickle them as well about the official meeting yeah exactly town house agency yeah yeah yeah do you hear me or not for a second oh john center houston he's

Clerk26:50 – 26:51

chairman cassidy

26:51 – 26:51

aye

Clerk26:52 – 26:53

have twelve eyes eleven a's

26:54 – 26:56

ok we decide that

Clerk26:56 – 26:59

oh oh senator baldwin

27:01 – 27:02

what is the question

Unknown27:04 – 27:04

um

27:04 – 27:05

no

Clerk27:05 – 27:09

no ok have twelve eyes eleven a's

27:10 – 27:21

ok the ayes have it the nomination is agreed to and will be favorably reported to the senate we now move to mr. matzema uh doctor matzema to his voting um the clerk should call the roll i shall be voting yes

Clerk27:21 – 27:22

senator paul

27:22 – 27:23

aye

Clerk27:23 – 27:23

senator collins

27:23 – 27:24

aye

Clerk27:24 – 27:25

senator Murkowski senator marshall

27:26 – 27:26

aye

Clerk27:26 – 27:26

senator scott

27:27 – 27:27

aye

Clerk27:27 – 27:29

senator holly senator tuberville

27:28 – 27:29

aye

Clerk27:29 – 27:30

senator banks

27:29 – 27:30

aye

Clerk27:30 – 27:30

senator Husted

27:31 – 27:31

aye

Clerk27:31 – 27:34

senator moody senator armstrong senator sanders

27:34 – 27:34

no

Clerk27:35 – 27:35

senator murray

Unknown27:36 – 27:36

no but how so

Clerk27:37 – 27:39

senator baldwin senator murphy

Unknown27:39 – 27:40

no but how so

Clerk27:41 – 27:42

senator kane

Unknown27:42 – 27:43

no but how so

Clerk27:42 – 27:51

senator hassan senator hickenlooper senator markey senator kim senator rochester senator Alsobrooks

Unknown27:51 – 27:52

over at rochester

Clerk27:52 – 27:53

chairman cassidy

Unknown27:53 – 27:53

yes

27:53 – 27:53

aye

Clerk27:53 – 27:55

twelve eyes eleven nays

27:55 – 27:58

the ayes have it we should now move to um

Unknown27:57 – 27:58

ok that's a good one

27:59 – 28:04

mr. mcdonald um the clerk should call the roll i shall be voting yes

Clerk28:04 – 28:04

senator paul

28:04 – 28:05

aye

Clerk28:05 – 28:07

senator collins murkowski senator murkowski

Unknown28:08 – 28:08

aye

Clerk28:08 – 28:09

senator Marshall

28:09 – 28:10

aye

Clerk28:10 – 28:10

senator scott

28:10 – 28:11

aye

Clerk28:11 – 28:11

senator Hawley

28:11 – 28:12

aye

Clerk28:12 – 28:13

senator Tuberville

28:13 – 28:13

aye

Clerk28:13 – 28:14

senator banks

28:14 – 28:14

aye

Clerk28:14 – 28:15

senator Husted

28:15 – 28:15

aye

Clerk28:15 – 28:16

senator moody

28:16 – 28:16

aye

Clerk28:16 – 28:17

senator armstrong

28:17 – 28:18

aye

Clerk28:18 – 28:18

senator sanders

28:18 – 28:20

more than six minutes

Clerk28:19 – 28:20

senator murray

28:20 – 28:21

don't by proxy

Clerk28:22 – 28:22

senator baldwin

28:23 – 28:23

no

28:23 – 28:24

mmm

Clerk28:24 – 28:24

senator murphy

28:25 – 28:26

don't by proxy

Clerk28:26 – 28:27

senator Kaine

28:27 – 28:28

no

Clerk28:28 – 28:29

senator hassan

28:29 – 28:29

no

Clerk28:29 – 28:31

senator hickenlooper senator markey

28:32 – 28:32

oh

Clerk28:32 – 28:33

senator kim

28:33 – 28:34

no no

Clerk28:33 – 28:35

senator rochester

28:34 – 28:35

yes

Clerk28:35 – 28:36

senator alcer brooks

28:36 – 28:37

don't by proxy

Clerk28:38 – 28:38

chairman cassidy

28:39 – 28:39

aye

Clerk28:39 – 28:41

we have twelve eyes eleven ears

28:41 – 28:44

those eyes have it we should now move to mr.

Clerk28:44 – 28:48

proudy uh the culture call the roll senator paul

28:48 – 28:48

yeah

Clerk28:49 – 28:50

senator collins

28:50 – 28:50

aye

Clerk28:51 – 28:54

senator Murkowski senator marshall

28:54 – 28:54

aye

Clerk28:55 – 28:55

senator scott

28:55 – 28:56

no

Clerk28:57 – 28:57

senator holly

28:57 – 28:57

aye

Clerk28:58 – 28:59

senator tuberville

28:59 – 28:59

no

Clerk29:00 – 29:00

senator banks

29:00 – 29:01

no

Clerk29:02 – 29:02

senator Husted

29:02 – 29:03

aye

Clerk29:04 – 29:04

senator moody

29:04 – 29:05

no

Clerk29:06 – 29:07

senator armstrong

29:07 – 29:07

aye

Clerk29:07 – 29:08

holly was first senator sanders

29:09 – 29:09

aye

Clerk29:09 – 29:10

so they there we go senator murray

29:11 – 29:12

no way don't pass

Clerk29:12 – 29:15

senator baldwin center murphy

29:15 – 29:15

i by bert

Clerk29:17 – 29:18

senator Kaine

29:18 – 29:18

aye

Clerk29:19 – 29:20

senator Hassan

29:20 – 29:20

aye

Clerk29:21 – 29:22

senator hickenlooper

29:22 – 29:22

aye

Clerk29:23 – 29:25

senator markey senator kim

29:25 – 29:26

aye

Clerk29:26 – 29:29

senator Blunt Rochester senator Alsobrooks

29:29 – 29:29

i by bert rochester

Clerk29:30 – 29:31

chairman cassidy

29:32 – 29:32

no

Clerk29:33 – 29:35

have seventeen eyes six nays

29:36 – 29:45

the eyes have it the nomination is agreed to and is favorably reported to the senate um thank you

Clerk29:45 – 29:46

you're welcome

29:47 – 29:48

the committee stands adjourned

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