Summary
- Michael Young (Nominee to be Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary to the Republic of Serbia, Department of State) affirmed Srebrenica was genocide and pledged to support Dayton peace.
- Julia Nesheiwat (Nominee to be Ambassador-at-Large for the Arctic, U.S. Department of State) warned Russia is militarizing Arctic and China seeks dual-use advantage while U.S. lacks icebreakers.
- Christopher Murphy pressed Young and Johnson whether embassies should advance Trump family business projects, and both deflected to promoting fair competition.
- Jeanne Shaheen condemned lifting sanctions on Milorad Dodik and State Department silence on Srebrenica, while James E. Risch stressed countering Russia and China.
- The record remains open until September 18 for written questions, after which the committee will consider advancing the five nominations to full Senate confirmation.
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The uh United States Senate Foreign Relations Committee will come to order. Uh good morning everyone. Uh we have a hearing this morning on five uh important uh nominations. We have a great panel in front of us and uh we uh want to welcome them, uh welcome their families. We all know that the families participate as uh much as uh uh everyone else does and it's a sacrifice not only for the nominee but for the family, indeed in times more so for the family, so we appreciate everyone's uh willingness to serve and particularly we appreciate the families who are willing to support uh the people who do serve. So the way we're gonna handle this today uh is uh I will uh make an opening statement and uh then yield to uh Senator uh Shaheen to do likewise uh we will then have a couple of introductions uh we'll then hear statements uh uh from our nominees. We'd ask you each to keep it to about five minutes. We do have a very large record here though, so we have room for about anything you wanna add to the record. So feel free, but uh try to keep it uh to about uh five minutes. Then we'll open it up for a round of questions. And uh so that's ho- how this is gonna go. We welcome the audience. We have a fairly good sized audience today. Uh wanna remind everyone that uh the rules of this committee are very clear. We have zero tolerance. for any interruptions or any attempt to uh communicate with anyone here at the dais or uh with the witnesses and as a result of that anyone who attempts to do so will be subject to the usual things we do here which is uh removal and arrest. So thank you all for coming and uh we uh enjoy uh having people here to watch uh the business of the United States uh uh uh Senate committee. So with that um I uh want to uh talk I'm gonna start with you uh Miss uh, Mister Johnson, um, uh, support for a strong, free and united uh Bosnia remains a policy priority for the United States. If confirmed as ambassador, uh, it is important that you continue to r
We have introductions.
Yeah, I'm gonna let them introduce before uh, sorry.
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Um, if confirmed as ambassador, it is important uh that you continue to reinforce a firm US support for the uh Dayton Accords, We're finding ways to foster dialogue across all political factions. Today I hope to hear how you plan to help protect the sovereignty and uh territorial integrity of Bosnia and Herzegovina from Russian malign influence, uh encourage the government to strengthen its institutions, and advance the rule of law. Uh, Doctor Neshrat, as Russia and China continue to grow their influence and presence in the Arctic, uh this administration is taking meaningful steps to prioritize the region as a critical component of US national security. If confirmed as ambassador to the Arctic, I trust that with your professional background in the military and the intelligence community you'll continue this effort to advance our security interests and counter our adversaries in the Arctic while deepening cooperation with our partners and NATO allies. Mister Young, as Serbia faces a number of challenges to the rule of law, political freedoms, and countering malign foreign influence, uh, US engagement must focus on helping Serbia address these issues, along with resolving divisions both in the country and with its neighbors. Russia and China also have footholds in Serbia, particularly in the energy and tech sectors. If Belgrade wants to improve relations with the United States, it won't do so by continuing to work with our adversaries. I look forward to hearing your plan to, uh, convince Serbia in the right direction, If confirmed as ambassador. Uh, Miss Patel, the United States has had an enduring relationship with uh Cabo Verde, a country of ten islands in the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of West Africa, uh, for over two hundred years. We operate uh the first US uh consulate in sub-Saharan Africa in Cabo Verde in eighteen eighteen. If confirmed, it would be up to you to continue this long tradition of diplomacy. I look for forward to hearing how you plan to engage Cabo Verde on issues of trade and investment, as well as maritime security and counternarc uh narcotics work. Uh finally, Mister Gillen, President Trump's landmark C five plus one summit last year launched a new era of engagement w- with Kyrgyzstan and Central Asia. I participated in that and I believe it was a b- a very positive uh engagement as we move forward uh and hopefully uh uh cultivate that relationship. As Ambassador, You will play an important role in expanding cooperation and encouraging reform that facilitates US investment in Kyrgyzstan's infrastructure, development, energy and critical mineral sector. American involvement in these industries is vital to counter China's influence in the region. It is also crucial that you work uh with the Kyrgyz government to counter Russian sanctions uh evasion its avoidance of international financial controls, and the flow of dual-use goods to the uh Ru- uh Russian defense sector. I look forward to hearing your thoughts on how the U. S. can work with the Kursk Republic to address these issues. Thank you all for being here today, and again thank you to you and your families. With that, I will yield to the distinguished ranking members.
Thank you, Mister Chairman, and congratulations to each of our nominees today. Welcome to all of your families and supporters who are here today. Um, like the chairman, I want to begin with the Western Balkans, because more than thirty years ago the United States helped end the war in Bosnia-Herzegovina. That war included the Srebrenica genocide, where more than eight thousand Bosniak men and boys were murdered under the direction of Ratko Milatic. The Dayton peace agreement has kept the region from returning to that violence, but that peace cannot be taken for granted. Political leaders continue to challenge Bosnia and Herzegovina's territorial integrity, its sovereignty, and its state institutions. Genocide denial and the glorification of convicted war criminals continue to deepen ethnic divisions. And Russia continues to exploit those divisions to de-stabilize the region and block closer ties with Europe. And what is most troubling, I think, is that some of the administration's actions risk contributing to greater instability. And, Mister Chairman,
It will be admitted to the record.
Thank you. In Bosnian Hercegovina, the administration lifted sanctions on Mil Milorad Dodek, despite his continued challenges to the authority of the Bosnian state. And just this week, Dodek said that he, quote, " dreams" of a referendum on Republic of Srpska's succession from Bosnia. And when leaders around the world condemned the glorification of Milatic last week, the State Department was silent. The department has also recently stopped calling Srebrenica a genocide, which is a department departure from long-standing US policy and the position of Congress. The United States helped bring peace to Bosnia. We cannot afford to send mixed signals about Our ambassadors in Belgrade and Sarajevo must be prepared to speak clearly. Srebrenica was a genocide. I've been there, I saw it, I've talked to survivors. I know how many people were murdered in Srebrenica and who was responsible. Bosnia and Herzegovina's sovereignty and territorial integrity must be respected. And the United States must oppose efforts to destabilize the region and undermine its democratic institutions. Now, that brings me to our nominees. Mister Young, you've been nominated to be ambassador to Serbia. If confirmed, you will arrive at a time of political transition and growing concerns about Serbia's democratic trajectory and its ties with Russia. I hope you will speak to how you will support democratic institutions there, how you will counter Russian influence, and how you will help advance Serbia's path toward Europe. Mister Johnson, you've been nominated to be Ambassador Ambassador to Bosnia-Herzegovina. I'm pleased to see that during your Marine Corps service you spent some time at the Portsmouth Naval Shipyard. That means we consider you an honorary New Hampshire citizen. Um, but like Serbia, Bosnia and Herzegovina is heading into consequential elections amid deep political divisions. I hope you'll speak to how you will defend the Dayton Agreement and Bosnia's sovereignty and territorial integrity, and how you will use the mandatory sanctions authorities that Congress enacted in the FY twenty twenty-six National Defense Authorization Act, to hold bad actors accountable. Miss Nishwat, you have been nominated to be ambassador-at-large for the Arctic. Hopefully I'm pronouncing your name correctly.
Pretty close.
Russia is expanding its military presence in the Arctic, while China is seeking a greater role there. If confirmed, I hope you will work with our Arctic allies to protect US security and economic interests in the region. And I'm pleased that our next two nominees are career Foreign Service officers. Mister Gillen, you've been nominated to be ambassador to the Republic of Kyrgyzstan. Kyrgyzstan faces growing pressure from Russia and China, as well as serious concerns about democratic backsliding. I hope you will speak to how you will strengthen US ties while pressing for sanctions, compliance and respect for democratic institutions. And finally, Miss Patel, you've been nominated to be ambassador to Cabo Verde. Cabo Verde also has important ties to New Hampshire, so we would consider you an official, an honorary Granite Stater as well. Our National Guard state partnership program is with Cabo Verde. Um, we also have cooperation on aviation training and countering transna- transnational crime with that country. So I look forward to hearing your statement as well and to the opportunity to engage with questions with all of you. Thank you.
Thank you uh Senator Shaheen uh we'll do a couple of introductions first and then we'll turn to each of you to uh give a statement, and when I do that uh I will start uh with Mister Yu Mi- Mister Young on the end and we'll just go that way so that you know where you're gonna be uh in line. Uh, Senator Lee, I understand you have something for us.
Thank you, Mister Chairman, and thanks to our nominees for being here today. Uh, I'm gonna be honest, this is one of the hardest introductions I will have ever given. Uh, for the simple reason that the individual I'm I'm introducing is so qualified, it's gonna be hard to get through his qualifications and have you not think that I'm severely exaggerating. It's gonna sound like an exaggeration, it's not. This is a a d a a Mike Young uh is an icon in academia, in the law, in the area of foreign relations in so many different ways. One of my favorite one of my many favorite things about him, in addition to be a family man, the father of four, a grandfather to many. Um uh he he's also tied to my alma mater, uh uh BYU. He's a fellow BYU cougar and he's been nominated to be our next ambassador to Serbia. He's got extensive experience in the law generally, including and especially in international law. He's also got uh uh an unbelievably impressive resume when it comes to academia and diplomacy I can't think of anybody more well qualified for this than Mister Young. Uh he's a lifelong per- public servant. Following his undergraduate studies at BYU and uh law school at at uh uh Harvard Law School, he he tells me that it's accredited, I hadn't heard of it before, but uh he served as a law clerk to the honorable Benjamin Chaple- yeah, uh, Kaplan on the Supreme Judicial Court of the state of Massachusetts, and then as a law clerk, uh, uh, to then Associate Justice, uh, later Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist at the US Supreme Court. He later joined the Reagan administration, um, in the State Department as the Deputy Legal Advisor. During the George H. W. Bush administration, he served as the Deputy Undersecretary for Cultural and Economic Affairs, and then as Ambassador for Trade and environmental affairs. Over the course of his tenure at the State Department, he assisted on diplomatic issues ranging from German reunification and NAFTA to the World Trade Organization, uh really light duty stuff of course. In addition to his more hands-on work in diplomacy, Mr. Young has long served as a thinker, as a professor, as a an a high level administrator. He taught at Columbia Law School and George Washington University, where he also served as dean. He eventually returned to our great state, Utah, and he became the president of the University of Utah, and did outstanding work there. During his tenure at the University of Utah, he expanded the school's ever-growing reputation, uh, a as a center for research and entrepreneurship, making it the nation's, uh, top university for companies generated, uh, from university research. That trend, by the way, now continues, uh, decades after his service in Utah came to an end. Uh, he's also served as the president of the University of Washington and a Texas A and M university. Very few people have left such a deep mark on, uh, as many, uh, top-notch universities as Mr. Young. But on top of all this, uh, he's served, uh, for eight years as a member of the US Commission on International and Religious Freedom. Look, this successful career of his has been nothing, uh, short of extraordinary. And um uh uh I I'm not entirely convinced that he he's not frozen in time or a sophisticated automaton uh from a future era because he doesn't seem to age, and he never grows dull. But in addition to all this, um he he's a delightful human being, uh uh he's gotten to know his family over the years, his friend Stu is a dear friend of mine, uh th- these apples uh and none of them fell far from the tree. So anyway, like I said, and it's gonna sound like an exaggeration, I'm actually underdoing it. I'm confident that uh he's gonna be an extraordinary ambassador and a great advocate for the United States and Serbia on a whole host of issues. So I urge my colleagues to join me in supporting Mike Yell.
Thank you, Senator, we appreciate that, and you're right, that is uh on an uh an incredible resume. Um, Senator Scott, you have something for us.
Well, s- like Senator Lee, I have the opportunity to introduce an overachiever. So, Doctor Julian Eswat. as the present's nominee to be ambassador-at-large for Arctic Affairs. So anybody that knows her husband, any good decision he made, Julie made the decision, all of his, all all the bad ones he uh miked it on all by himself. Dr. Neshwat is a great Floridian and a dedicated patriot who has been a career server in our country. She has an impressive background, army intelligence officer, served in combat in Iraq and in Af- Afghanistan, earned a Bronze Star for heroic service. After retiring honorably from the army, she has served across three presidential administrations, Democrat and Republican. She helped establish the office of the Director of National Intelligence, and she has served in leadership roles at the State Department focused on energy and hostage affairs. She was the first Chief Resilience Officer for my great city of Florida. There she led efforts to protect infrastructure and Florida's economy in the face of natural disasters. She served as a Homeland Security Advisor to President Trump during his first term and coordinated critical national security policy across the government. Her work as the Commissioner on the U. S. Arctic Research Commission makes sure the expert we need to lead as Ambassador-at-Large for Arctic Affairs. The Arctic, as we all know, is critical to America's future security and prosperity. As the region continues to reveal more natural resources and open up more shipping routes its strategic and e- economic value are unquestionable. Our enemies clearly see it that way. China and Russia have made huge investments in Arctic exploration and dominance. Even working together on various projects and operations in the region. Just like with sea power, space dominance, cyber security and AI development, this is another arena which we cannot afford to lose. That's why we need Julia in this job. Her extensive national security experience is exactly what America needs to defend American interests in the Arctic, a region where our vital national security interests are at stake, and where our adversaries are already heavily invested. She is way more than qualified for the job. She will fight for American policy in the Arctic. And that she has a vision that will great that will our great country, our inter- will put our great country, our interests and our people first. I fully endorse her fitness for this office and humbly ask that this committee support her with a vote to advance her confirmation. I yield back.
Thank you very much, Senator S- Senator Scott. We appreciate that, um, and appreciate the introductions. So with that, uh, Mister Young, we'll start with you and you have, uh, five minutes thereabouts.
Mr. Chairman, thank you very much. Uh, ranking member Shahin, uh and distinguished members of this committee, it's an honor uh to appear before you today as President Trump's nominee to be the Ambassador to the Republic of Serbia. Uh but let me also thank my dear friend Senator Lee for that introduction, uh overly kind, uh but I hope uh that I can uh earn the trust uh that is reflected in that introduction. I'm deeply grateful. for the confidence and trust President Trump and Secretary Rubio have placed in me. As Thomas Jefferson, himself a distinguished ambassador, once noted, "The greatest honor a citizen is to serve his country, but to represent her before the world is a sacred trust." If confirmed, I'm pleased to honor that trust and work closely with this committee and with Congress to protect and promote US interests in Serbia, to advance American priorities, and to build a bilateral relationship that contributes Service to our great nation and to the American people has been deeply ingrained in my family for generations and it has been the greatest privilege and honor of our life. Both my parents served in the military in World War Two, my father was in the infantry and served in some of the most difficult battles in Europe including the Battle of the Bulge. My mother served in the Women's Air Service Patrol, uh transported bombers and trained pilots. My son, Stuart, who sits behind me today, has served in the US courts as an as and as an assistant US attorney for almost two decades and now serves as the criminal deputy attorney a attorney general for the great state of Utah. My daughter, Catherine Owen, who also sits behind me, and her husband who is here with us today, both graduates of the US Air Force Academy, have collectively served all over the world for over three decades as officers in the US Air Force. I too have had the privilege of serving in all three branches of our government, and I am truly humbled and honored to be considered today for this particular position of tremendous responsibility and sacred trust and have the privilege and opportunity to serve our great nation yet again. If confirmed, I will leave the team at the U. S. Embassy, Belgrade, to deepen our defense and security cooperation to advance U. S. interest, to expand our trade and investment relationship to increase U. S. prosperity, to foster regional stability and to continue to build a partnership with Serbia that better promotes our interests in this strategically critical region. If confirmed, I will have no higher priority than the safety and security of embassy Belgrade personnel and US citizens in Serbia. I will continue to strengthen our bilateral engagement and deepen our business and economic ties moving Servi Serbia towards energy independence and improved energy infrastructure. I will encourage Serbia to embrace a political and economic future that benefits the United States, not competitors such as Russia and China. There's great potential for US companies in Serbia and deeper economic ties with the US. That's very much in our and Serbia's interest. I will work to ensure a favorable business climate and level playing field in which American businesses can compete and on which they will win. I will prioritize deepening our security and defense cooperation with Serbia, building upon the already strong ties Serbia has formed with the Ohio National Guard as part of the state partnership program over the past twenty years that's a cornerstone of our bilateral security ties with Serbia. I will ensure U S industry is well positioned to meet Burb- Serbia's growing interest in meeting its defense needs with U S equipment and in cooperation with the U S defense industry. If confirmed, I will partner with government of Serbia to counter global threats and support our mutual priorities and interests. I will encourage Serbia to promote security, stability and prosperity throughout the Western Balkans, including through normalization of relations with Kosovo. I will also continue to work with Serbia to use its influence to maintain regional stability, including in Bosnia and Herzegovina, as we seek to uphold the peace brought by the Dayton Peace Corps. Finally, if I'm afforded the great privilege and opportunity to serve as the US Ambassador to the Republic of Serbia, I will engage Serbian audiences to strengthen our partnership through public diplomacy strategic communications and people-to-people ties, ahead of the great opportunity that Expo twenty twenty seven in Belgrade presents us. I thank the chair and the ranking member for the opportunity and the privilege to be here today and I look forward to your questions.
Thank you, uh, Mr. Young. Uh, Mr. Johnson.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman Riss, Rangan member Shahin, members of committee, thank you for the opportunity to appear for you today as President Trump's nominee to be the US Ambassador to Bosnia-Herzegovina. I am grateful to President Trump, Secretary Rubio, for the confidence in me, and I appreciate the committee's consideration of my nomination. I am deeply honored and privileged to be the President's nominee to serve as United States Ambassador to Bosnia-Herzegovina. Throughout my career and in the years since my retirement, I've continued to work extensively overseas as a consultant and an advisor, engaging directly with foreign governments, changing military and civilian leadership across diverse countries, complex environments. Those experiences have taught me the importance of strong relationships, candid communications, respect for our partners, and a clear understanding of America's interests and responsibilities abroad. I recognize the present complex and enduring challenges. But I believe my experience, leadership background, and understanding of the region have prepared me to address those challenges with determination and sound judgment. If confirmed, I'll work to protect US citizens' advanced American interests in Bosnia and Herzegovina. I look forward to working with Congress in support of President Trump's American first foreign policy agenda. The United States remains committed to the sovereignty in territorial integrity of Bosnia and Herzegovina, as well as the peace that was brought by the Dayton peace agreement. Dayton ended a devastating conflict in the heart of Europe and laid the foundations for three decades of stability and progress. Today, the United States seeks a stable, secure and prosperous Bosnia and Herzegovina that is a constructive partner of the United States. If confirmed, I will work to preserve the stability and encourage a responsible leadership across all of Bosnia With elections fast approaching and supporting the political leaders' focus on the responsible governance and deliver tangible results for the citizens of Bosnia and Herzegovina, I'll engage broadly and consistently with all communities across the political spectrum to reduce tensions. Discourage escalation, maintain stability, which we will create the conditions for conducive to a better future for all. Thirty years after Dayton, Bosnia and Herzegovina's future should increasingly be shaped by their own leaders and institutions if confirmed encourage pragmatic locally driven solutions to political and economic challenges and support efforts to strengthen the cooperation among Bosnian and Herzegovina's various communities. The United States can play an important role as a partner and a facilitator, helping create conditions for a long-term peace and prosperity while empowering local leaders to take greater responsibility for the country's future. If confirmed, I will prioritize expanding economic and commercial cooperation between the United States and Bosnia and Herzegovina. Greater trade, investment and energy cooperation can create opportunities for American businesses while supporting economic growth and prosperity in Bosnia and Herzegovina. I'll work to advance the energy sec- security, expand the US exports and promote a business environment that welcomes American investment in critical sectors. The United States committed to promoting stability and prosperity in the region. If confirmed, I'll work with Bosnia and Herzegovina and our partners to limit the opportunities for malign influence from both Russia and China. I'll work with counterparts of the great transnational criminal organizations and other malign actors to exploit political, economic, security vulnerabilities. A stable and prosperous Bosnia and Herzegovina
Thank you, uh, Mr. Johnson. Uh, Ms. Nishwat, the floor is yours. Thank you.
Thank you.
Chairman Risch, Ranking Member Shaheen, and distinguished members of the committee. Thank you for the opportunity to be to appear before you today as President Trump's nominee to be the US Arctic Ambassador-at-Large. I'm grateful to President Trump and Secretary Rubio for their confidence in me, and I appreciate the committee's consideration of my nomination. I'm joined today by my husband Mike, sister Dina, stepdaughter Anderson, dear friend Michelle, former hostage Ji Ju Wong and his, who was freed from Iran after being held prisoner for three years and his wife, Wah. I'm also joined by fellow veterans who I served with in Iraq and Afghanistan, Lieutenant Colonel retired Ligia Zarudo, as well as Gold Star spouse who lost her husband in Afghanistan, Jane Horton. I am the daughter of first generation Jordanian Christian immigrants. Thank you, sorry, I'm getting a little emotional here. Ben and Hyatt Neshwat. They worked tirelessly and raised five children in rural Florida on faith, education, and service. My widowed mother, a nurse, held our family together. She taught us that America does not owe anyone an easy path, but rewards grit, dedication, and a willingness to serve. That lesson took me from a small Florida town in the United States Army. After September eleventh, I served as a military intelligence officer, deployed in support of Operation Enduring Freedom and Iraqi Freedom. I later served across three administrations, beginning with helping to establish the office of the Director of National Intelligence. At the State Department I served as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Energy Resources and later as Deputy and Acting Special Presidential Envoy for Hostage Affairs. I later became Florida's first Chief Resilience Officer. I was then appointed the tenth Homeland Security Advisor to the President, where I was responsible for the Arctic, coordinating our national strategy for the region, working closely with the US Coast Guard and Navy to build our Arctic fleet and chairing National Security Council meetings on closing our icebreaker gap. I later served as a Commissioner on the US Arctic Research Commission. So the Arctic has entered a new strategic era. What was once seen as remote is now where homeland defense, alliance security, economic opportunity, and strategic competition converge. Secretary Rubio has said it plainly, The United States is an Arctic nation. We will remain focused on the Arctic and Arctic security must be a regular part of our engagements, including in NATO. Our interests extend far beyond Alaska. The region is central to the defense of the homeland, the security of the North Atlantic, trusted supply chains, energy, minerals and the alliances that have long advanced American interests. It is also the frontier for American innovation. The high north is not only ice and shipping lanes. It is space awareness and missile warning from northern latitudes. It is undersea cables, communications, and the data that moves across them. It is whether the next generation of energy, computing, artificial intelligence is powered and connected by trusted American and allied systems, or by infrastructure built under the influence of our competitors. Cold climates and energy potential can support advanced computing and data centers. Polar orbits and Arctic ground stations already matter for space operations. If the United States does not lead in these areas, others will treat them as openings. A rapidly changing Arctic and longer periods of open water are changing the operating environment faster than our institutions have adapted. Longer periods of open water may create opportunities for maritime activity and Ameri- American energy exports. They also stress the roads, ports, airfields, fuel systems, and networks that enable military operations, investment, commerce, and community resilience. In a region of vast distance, the failure of a single node can have a strategic consequences. These are operational challenges. They affect readiness, mobility, search and rescue, disaster response, and our ability to act in a crisis. Our compet- our competitors understand this. Russia continues to strengthen its military posture and infrastructure behind it. China is not an Arctic nation, yet it is seeking long-term advantage through research, investment, technology and commercial projects with dual use potential. Secretary Rubio has warned that Beijing's pattern is to use commercial cover for facilities that could later serve military purposes. Arctic shipping lanes will matter for exports, critical minerals, trusted digital infrastructure. Space-related access will shape competitiveness for decades. We cannot allow Moscow and Beijing to write the rules of this region by default. America's response must be nimble and effective. Advancing the administration's America first priorities will be the core of our approach. Military strength is inde- indispensable, but it is not enough. Lasting leadership also depends on diplomacy, economic statecraft, strong infrastructure, innovation, and our alliances. No single agency can do this alone. Success requires coordination across government, partnership with Congress, Alaska natives, industry, academia, and our Arctic allies. That is why this role matters. The job is to put American diplomacy to work, advance US interests, engage foreign governments, the Arctic Council, and other international bodies. Line up policies so our efforts pull in the same direction. and push back on influence from our adversaries. It also means a steady eye on the security, military activity, economic deals, resources, cyber, science, and politics, so we are not surprised. If confirmed, I will work every day to strengthen our alliances, advance the interests of the American people, counter those who would exploit the Arctic against us, and help keep the region secure, stable, prosperous, and prepared. Thank you and I welcome your questions.
Thank you, Ms. Nishra. Appreciate it. Uh, Mr. Gillen.
Chairman Rish, Ranking Member Shahin, distinguished members of the committee, thank you for the opportunity to appear before you today as President Trump's nominee to serve as the next United States Ambassador to the Kyrgyz Republic. I am deeply honored to be considered for this role. Public service has been the defining commitment of my career. and I do not take lightly the trust the President or Secretary and Secretary Rubio have placed in me, nor the responsibility this committee bears in advising consenting to this nomination. If confirmed, I will bring to this post the same dedication to mission, integrity, accountability that has guided me throughout my time serving the American people. I am grateful for the chance to continue that service in a region I believe is of growing importance to our nation's security and prosperity. Before I go further, I would like to recognize my family, especially my wife, Grace, who is hi- with me here today and who has been all in with me for almost twenty-five years. I remain ever grateful also to my late World War Two generation grandparents. who helped raise me with their profound sense of duty and love of country, and who were very, very proud of me for representing our country as an officer in the United States Foreign Service. My family's support and sacrifice make this work possible, and any success I have had in service to our country reflects their love and partnership as much as my own effort. I could not undertake this responsibility without them. As the Kyrgyz Republic celebrates thirty-five years of independence, the United States has an opportunity to offer a transparent, mutually beneficial partnership that advances the prosperity of both nations. This is not a new commitment, but one this administration has reinforced through sustained high-level engagement including the historic C five plus one summit at the White House last November which marked the platform's tenth anniversary, and brought together uh President Trump, the leaders of the Central Asian countries. If confir- if confirmed, I will work to hold, I will work to build this on this foundation. That means strengthening security cooperation, including on counterterrorism, border security, immigration enforcement, and countering transnational criminal organizations, consistent with the outcomes of the US Kyrgyz Republic annual bilateral consultations. It also means expanding commercial and economic ties including infrastructural cooperation and financial sector partnerships that generate export opportunities and support American jobs. It also means advancing critical minerals and other and energy security cooperation, ensuring secure, diversified supply chains for the United States and our partners in the region. It also means encouraging sovereignty and sanctions compliance. so that the Kyrgyz Republic becomes reliable and transparent partner, as it navigates pressures from neighboring powers. The Kyrgyz Republic is a promising partner at a moment when Central Asia's importance to US foreign policy has never been clearer. If confirmed, I will work tirelessly to protect and advance American interests, strengthen our bilateral relationship, and ensure the United States becomes the partner of choice for the Kyrgyz people. I look forward to answering the committee's questions. Thank you.
Thank you, uh, Mr. Gelin. Uh, Ms. Patel.
Chairman Risch, Ranking Member Shaheen, and distinguished members of the committee. Thank you for the privilege of coming before you today as the President's nominee to serve as United States Ambassador to the Republic of Cabo Verde. I deeply appreciate the confidence and trust President Trump and Secretary Rubio have shown in nominating me. If confirmed, I commit to working closely with Congress to advance our interests in Cabo Verde. I come from humble beginnings, raised to understand the importance of hard work, empathy, integrity, and resilience. Even when times were tough, I always dreamed big. I am grateful for the family and friends here with me today, and those watching from afar, who have shaped who I have become and why public service means so much to me. I also want to acknowledge my nearly two year old son, Adi, who motivates me to be better each day. Cabo Verde is a small nation with an outside story. Since gaining independence in nineteen seventy-five, it has become one of Africa's strongest democracies, reflected time after time through its peaceful transfers of power. Its government acts against officials who engage in corruption, and its laws provide freedom of expression, including for the press. Cabo Verdean leaders have shown remarkable resolve, from interdicting multi-ton narcotics shipments in the mid-Atlantic, to standing firm against pressure from actors seeking to exploit its strategic location. And its people-to-people ties with the United States, dating back to the eighteenth century, has built a bond with America that spans generations. If confirmed, my highest priority will be the safety and security of US citizens in Cabo Verde, including the thousands who travel there for business, tourism, or to spend holidays with loved ones, and our mission team doing incredible work in Praia. Part and parcel of supporting the mission is ensuring our new embassy compound construction is on track for completion in twenty twenty nine. I will also work to promote broad-based, mutually beneficial economic development, encouraging US businesses to seize opportunities in a market with a stable political environment and low corruption. I will advocate for American businesses and look forward to encouraging investment in infrastructure tourism fisheries and digital services. and addressing barriers to US commercial success. Additionally, I will prioritize our security partnership, particularly in maritime domain awareness. Cabo Verde is made up of ten islands and eight islets within a maritime domain that is over a hundred and seventy times larger, than its actual landmass. This presents challenges to combat transnational crime, illegal fishing, and narcotics trafficking. If confirmed, I will work to deepen our security efforts in support of these areas of mutual concern. Finally, I would be remiss not to mention that Cabo Verde made its first ever appearance at the FIFA World Cup this year and became the smallest country ever to make it to the knockout round of the tournament. It was a moment of tremendous national pride for Cabo Verdeans and brought this small nation into the American consciousness. I hope to build on this momentum to bring our two countries even closer together. If confirmed, I will work every day to co- to strengthen this vital partnership. Thank you and I welcome your questions.
Well, thank you and thank you uh to the panel. Uh we're gonna do a round of questions and uh I'm gonna start with myself and then we'll go back and forth between the minority and the majority. Um I'm going to start uh with uh uh uh m- Ms. Nejwat. I'm I'm the senior Republican on the Intelligence Committee as well as being here and we hear a lot, I mean a lot, about the Arctic. uh in the intelligence committee. Um I'm always impressed with the fact and not in a good way uh how little it gets covered in the in the media and uh particularly with the issues that are there. So this gives us an opportunity to highlight uh uh some of those issues so I'm gonna give you a minute if you'd like to talk about some of the challenges and maybe drill down into an example or two as to why the Arctic is important and uh why we should take it uh as such.
Thank you uh, Mister Chairman, for for that for that question and opportunity to really try to explain. I think you're exactly right. Um there's there's a a little bit of a lack of understanding and awareness with the general public when it comes to the strategic importance of the Arctic, and and what this role would it would encompass. Um as as I said earlier in my remarks, you know, the the ice is melting in certain parts of the Arctic. It is opening the navigation seaways. We're seeing increased traffic of Russian and Chinese ships. Uh there's there's quite a bit of vulnerabilities and gaps up in the high north. We rely very heavily um on our our fisheries, on on the salmon industry up in the Al- Alaska region. Uh there's a a lot of um national security, economic uh security concerns when it when it comes to the high north. And being able to explain I I'd say, especially from a public diplomacy standpoint, will be I think quite critical for this role and and this and this uh opportunity to serve, um to really be able to explain that strategic importance um when it comes to also countering the malign influence of China and Russia that are that are in the region um opening opportunities to see what kind of access we have when it comes to critical minerals, uh and energy resources and then finally um building those coalitions and those partnerships with uh our ar Arctic uh nations uh across the board and not just with the Arctic Council but beyond that as well we have a lot of uh Arctic observer states including Japan, Chi uh uh Korea uh and India, for example. So it is a global issue. Uh, when we think about what's happening in the world today, everyone focuses on certain choke points in the Middle East and so forth, where where this the Arctic can be truly a a new frontier, um, if we put the right focus and capabilities behind it. Thank you.
Well, thank you. I think you've got that uh just right. Uh, it it's gonna continue to grow in importance, uh, particularly as uh as the use and the navigation gets uh uh uh gets um more use up there. Uh, Mister Gillen, um, as I noted, I I participated in that meeting at the at the request of the president uh uh with the C five plus one and I have to tell you I was uh uh I was incredibly impressed. I I I see people from all over the world, from the two hundred countries, and uh never saw much of the C five plus one. Uh but when um when the war started uh they they came to see me and wanted to underscore the fact that uh they they didn't have anything to do with this, and they didn't want to participate in that even though uh the Russians had uh strongly uh urged them to do so. But um in any event, uh I was impressed when we had that meeting with them, and I think saying that they have an interest in engaging with us is an understatement. I was I was really surprised at their uh enthusiasm for wanting a relationship with us, uh economically and uh in every other way. So um y- y- your thoughts on that.
Thank you, Mister Chairman, and I'd um for that for that question, but also thank you for your support and participation in the C five plus one summit. Truth be told is throughout the my foreign service career, the most effective moments we had when w- when engaging partners in those who were teetering back and forth between us and maybe other powers throughout the world was when there wa- the the uh legislative branch and the executive branch put up a united front and they s- saw that there was no daylight between constitutional branches and saw where American um uh policy was heading so thank you so much for President Trump's efforts to uh press forward and to reinvigorate and and to maximize uh uh Cuba's Republic's participation in the C five uh format. It is a difficult strategic context for the Kyrgyz Republic. As you know, twenty percent of their economy is dependent on rem remittances from Russia, and upwards of ninety percent, and some estimates out in open sources put it higher, of fuel uh uh their fuel supplies are f from Russia uh the Kyrgyz Republic. And so it's a difficult strategic context in some respects for the Kyrgyz Republic, and and what is essential to enabling them to be a a a trusted, transparent, sovereign, i- our s- strong shows of American commitment to find ways uh to expand commercial ties uh as well as uh uh security cooperation so as if confirmed it will be among my highest priorities uh as Ambassador to the Kyrgyz Republic to encourage their continued and expanded participation through the C five plus one for the very reasons you've la- uh laid out Mr. Chairman. Thank you.
Yeah, I appreciate that. I'm assuming you have had some discussions with uh uh, Ambassador Gaur, Sergio Gaur, who's the Ambassador to India, but also the Special Envoy for the region that includes the C five. Am I correct on that?
Sir, I'm, uh, I have consultations lined up with him, but, uh, I've been engaging with his people, uh, uh, and, uh, look forward to working with him as well as, uh, the Assistant Secretary back at the SA Bureau. Um.
I I appreciate that. You you're gonna find him fully engaged in that, uh, Envoy, uh,
Thank you, Thank you, Mister Chairman, Mister Chairman, and I apologize for missing everyone's opening statements. and I apologize. For missing everyone's opening statements, I had a another briefing and I had a another briefing and armed services committee that I had to go to. Um but hopefully
Did you want him to do it again, or
Well, if you would like that, I'd be happy to listen.
We got it on the record for that.
Ho hopefully I can um get some insights based on the questions to all of you. Um as I mentioned in my opening statement, Mister Young, last week a Serbian plane flew the body of Ratko Milatic from The Hague to Belgrade, and despite the fact that he's was convicted by the international criminal, uh tribunal for former Yugoslavia of genocide in Srebrenica. Um what we saw was some government officials who attended his funeral and he was granted military honors. Uh I think to see honors bestowed on a convicted war criminal like that is outrageous. And I think it's important for the US to be clear on what happened in Srebrenica. So do you consider, as the International Criminal Tribunal does, as the US Congress does, and as the US Holocaust Memorial Museum does, that what took place in Srebrenica was a genocide.
Uh, Senator, thank you so much for your question and your decades-long work in that area lays a tremendous groundwork I think for uh future work in Serbia, so thank you. Uh, yes, what happened in S in Srebrenica as a genocide is a historical and legal fact.
Thank you. And if confirmed Based on your answer, I assume you commit to affirming that um in your new role.
Uh
Should you be confirmed?
S Senator, yes. If confirmed, we'd certainly continue to afer aver that.
Thank you. Um most recently it was reported that Russian nationals responsible for the hybrid attack at Leipzig Airport used Serbia um as a means to return home. It underscores the growing concerns that Serbia's ties with Russia undermine So if confirmed, how would you seek to put greater pressure on Serbia to sever its ties with Russia, um so that it can support its stated interest in pursuing EU membership?
Uh s- Senator, thank you so much. That's a uh difficult but important, very important question. Uh I think there are a number of ways in which one turns to um enlighten Serbia about the disadvantages of deeper cooperation with Russia, and the advantages of cooperation with the United States. Uh and I think uh there are a number of variables in there that you want to address, including uh helping them develop energy, uh reduce their energy independent or their dependency on Russia, I think is an important element of that. Uh number two I think is to work to um urge the Serbians uh to create a environment that allows uh American companies uh to compete fairly and to become uh an even greater part of the economic ecosystem of Serbia uh. I think also uh deepening our conversations uh over military cooperation become an important element as well uh so those are all things that need to be done and more to be sure uh but certainly particular emphasis in those areas I think is potentially helpful.
Well, thank you. Um, I think it was Woodrow Wilson who said that academic politics are the toughest, and so given your experience in academia, hopefully you'll be prepared for the Balkans because politics there are pretty tough as well.
Right.
Um, Mister Johnson, we passed um last year uh the Western Balkans Democracy and Prosperity Act, um which requires the administration to sanction within ninety days any actor who are responsible for undermining peace, stability, or territorial integrity in the Western Balkans. And yet nearly nine months later, the administration has still not imposed any sanctions, despite what appears to be clear sanctionable conduct. So, for example, Miller Ad-Dodek, again who I referred to in my opening comments, attended the funeral of convicted war criminal um Miladich And he has advocated for the Republic of Srpska's independence. Just four months after US sanctions on him were lifted, he said, and I quote, "You have to inflict some losses on the enemy every day because he is your enemy, and Muslims, the Sarajevo political establishment, and Muslim Sarajevo are our enemies." End of quote. So, if confirmed, do you commit to reviewing the available intelligence and to um following very closely what's happening in the Republic of Srpska and making recommendations on what we need to do if there is ongoing rhetoric and action that undermines um the law with respect to the Western Balkans Integrity Act.
Thank you, Senator. And again, I echo my colleague uh in thanking you for your service, uh especially in the Balkans who went to Michigan. uh next year when you're there. With that said, I in respect to uh Dodek, I think that at this stage right now again we're in a political climate, and rhetoric is on all sides, uh um as before next month's elections in Bosnia-Herzegovina. But I can assure you, Senator, if confirmed, that I'll be a strong advocate for w what was stated in the NDA and be able to uh provide uh our country um an accurate portrayal of exactly what is going on.
Well, thank you. I appreciate that. I hope you will also make recommendations about how you think we should respond to what's going on. I'm out of time, Mister Chairman, but hopefully we will be able to do another round later.
That uh usually happens, doesn't it? So Senator Lee.
Thank you. Uh, Mister Young, let's start with you, uh, one of your areas of expertise in in legal academia, and that you've also got a lot of experience in uh practice uh i in your previous government service involves international religious freedom uh you you were one of your previous ambassadorial roles, involved that in particular. You see any particular aspect of your service uh in Serbia that will benefit from that, and what do you think of there are some of the religious freedom issues you might confront there.
Uh, Senator Lee, thank you for that question, uh and recognition of the importance of that issue. Uh, Serbia is uh of course predominantly uh Serbian Orthodox and uh strongly support uh the capacity of people in that context to worship freely in whatever way uh they think appropriate. Uh at the same time there are other religions as well, there's certainly uh adherence to Islam, uh there are other Christian faiths there as well, uh and if confirmed I would certainly strongly urge the Serbian government to uh ensure that everybody have that capacity as they are obligated, uh UN treaties to preserve uh freedom of thought, conscience and belief, as well as freedom of assembly uh in all of its manifestations.
I I would imagine that uh many of them, including their clergy, will be honored to know that one of our major establishment clause cases uh in the United States bears their name, uh uh uh arising out of that church. I as chairman of the Energy and Natural Resources Committee, I'm always interested in energy issues around the world. Um, i- i- anything there of interest to - to you on the energy front?
Uh, I think the, uh, uh, yes, Senator, the energy front is very important. Uh, at the moment, uh, while on with respect to electrical energy, they are largely self-sufficient with about seventy percent produced by coal and about thirty percent by hydroelectric. But over eighty percent of their liquid national ga natural gas is imported from Russia. Uh, and they also, uh, have uh Russian ownership of their major energy company, uh those those issues need to be addressed. Uh and if confirmed I will certainly uh continue to urge uh that NIS be uh a chan there'd be a change in ownership and control, uh from Russian ownership and control to something else, which is under negotiation as I understand it. Uh in addition I think looking at completion of pipelines uh from the west that allow them to get energy sources uh, become very important in terms of their capacity, uh, to engage the West, uh, to the exclusion, uh, on occasion of, uh, Russia and other countries with, uh, somewhat, uh, less honorable in, uh, ambitions, uh, for Serbia.
Right. Ms. Nechwat, um, as you've already seen to date, uh, this committee, uh, is really concerned, really interested in how we achieve um how we bolster our own national security on matters related to uh the Arctic. Uh, we face a lot of vulnerabilities in that area, and I did I I know you know more uh about this area than almost any anybody I know. Um, uh, what can you tell us just sort of about your strategy on this? I've introduced a bill to to try to address our efforts there, but um I I Tell us what you know about how our foreign adversaries, you know, within realm of what you can talk about in a non-classified environment, but how our adversaries may be exploiting vulnerabilities in the Arctic, uh, US vulnerabilities, that is.
Yeah. Thank you, Senator. Uh, it's it's something that I think is is quite the highest priority when it comes to our national security, is is understanding the threat environment that is up there, the lack of domain awareness, ensuring that our US Coast Guard has the capabilities our Navy, I think we're all aware. where we have a shortage of ice breakers. We do have an ice ice pact agreement. Hopefully that will help with the expansion, thanks to President Trump's uh advocacy there, uh working with uh Canada and Finland to help um expand our ice breaker fleet. Uh I believe right now we only have one actual heavy ice breaker ship, um uh which is quite old and uh we have maybe two medium ice breakers and that's about it. So there is there is quite a bit just from a shipping standpoint and having having that capability. Uh, the concern, as I said earlier, with increased shipping traffic with Russia and China, uh, my concern is, you know, China tends to have these quote unquote research stations up in the high north. Um, lot of it's with dual use purpose. Uh, I, I myself have visited up in the high north and seen first-hand these, these so-called research stations being unplugged and what does that really mean, right? Um, so, uh, and then also just seeing, you know, a lot of ships up there, including the illegal fishing that's taking place and what does that really mean, when they're supposed to also be scientific research, so understanding that the that dynamic, taking stock of in inventory of what we do have up in the high north, expanding maybe some of the military exercises that we have and working with our Arctic uh partners and including uh NATO of course will will certainly be part of that uh dynamic I mentioned even a space component and being able to have the sensor the sensors the radars that that are appropriate um up there and working closely with NORAD and NORTHCOM as well.
Uh, uh, thank you so much. See my time's expired. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Thank you, Senator Lee, and thank you for not engaging in discussion about the footnotes in those Supreme Court cases that you're so familiar with.
A, we can go there if you want to.
Not, we don't. Senator Murphy.
Uh, thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Thank you to, uh, everyone on the panel for your willingness to serve the country and to your family's willingness to serve. Um, uh, Mr. Young, uh, last year, uh, Donald Trump Junior made two um pretty high profile visits to Serbia and at least one of them he met with Vucic uh and business leaders. Um and then in April of this year, an even more extraordinary visit, uh he went to the Republic of Srpska. And it was widely covered um as um eh you know, an implicit endorsement of Vucic by the president's family. Um we now know that at that exact same moment when the president was um go when the president's son was going to the Republic of Srpska, a Russian ally, um a very close associate of Vladimir Putin was paying for Donald Trump Junior's wedding. Um and you were going to be in a country that apparently um is of great interest to the president's family. What do you know about the president's son's visit to Republic of Srpska? Why did he go? um and what was the message he was delivering when he was there, because it was covered um as uh an official act of the federal of of the of the US government it was of great interest in the region when he was there.
Uh Senator Murphy, thank you for that uh question. Uh I I will have um two levels of answers for that. Uh one is that uh as I have seen in the newspapers, which is my only level of understanding of this, is that there is uh interest in uh financial investment uh on the part of his companies uh in Serbia uh and those are of course decisions for uh Serbia uh and the private sector to make. Uh if confirmed I will certainly uh look carefully at what kinds of representations we are making by what kind of activities uh occur across the board uh to ensure that we try to speak with a single voice uh and advance uh all of the particular activities uh that are designed to help advance our relationship with Serbia in ways that make the United States safer, more secure, and more profitable.
But but in preparation for this hearing or for this job, you have you asked uh the White House or the State Department what the nature of those visits were that seems to be immediately relevant to you um in this new post. Have you asked?
Uh, Senator, I have asked those questions and res but I have not I am not in a position, uh, having not been confirmed, uh, to be able to have, uh, the depth of, uh, more confidential information about that and what they have, what I have been briefed on, uh, really reflects essentially what is in, uh, the newspapers.
Yeah, this is this is an extraordinary moment when, um, you know, the the business interests of the family, um, do intersect. national security interests of the country. Um, and I think it's gonna make your job very, very hard. Let me ask both you and General Johnson a, um, a related question. Um, the president's family has a lot of business interest in the region. You referenced that Donald Trump Junior seems to, uh, be interested in building properties there. Uh, the president's son-in-law, who is maybe the most important diplomat these days representing the United States, Jared Kushner, is proposing to um, build a resort in Albania, and in fact it has become so controversial that, um, an American ally, the uh leader of that country, his political survival is threatened because of this project. Um, this is a pretty simple question. If the White House were to come to either of you, um, and ask for help from the embassy on a financial project important to the family, Um, what would your response be? Um, first ask you, General Johnson, and then, um, to you, Mister Young. And, and I don't think these are, um, out of the realm of possibility hypotheticals given how many important business interests the family has in this particular region.
Good morning, uh, Senator Murphy. Thank you. Uh, I don't believe the president would actually ask me to help him with a financial dealings for his family, first and foremost. Um, and if he did, I think I would refer back to, uh, Maine State in order to get clarifications or
Well, what if the State Department said we'd like you to help the president or the president's family on a business deal?
I don't believe that would ever occur.
You believe it's appropriate for an embassy to be helping the president of the United States on a personal family financial
Uh first of all,
project?
uh Senator, it is the job of the embassy to help promote US economic interests in those countries.
Well.
Whether or not it's the president's, yeah, I mean, we're is is a different story. I understand where you're coming from.
So you think it might be appropriate for an embassy to
I did not say that, Miss S- Senator.
So is it or is it not?
If they ask me if we want to promote economic development in Bosnia-Herzegovina, I welcome all Americans to come to Bosnia-Herzegovina to be able to promote themselves.
Even if it's the president's family's interest? Um, mister Young, is it appropriate for an embassy to be trying to push a personal project of the president's family?
Uh, Senator Murphy, it is, I believe, uh part of the job of an ambassador to try and urge the country to create uh an environment that levels the playing field so that american companies and american interests can compete fairly and freely, uh and if they do they will win.
I know, but just to answer the question.
uh
I mean this is not for you especially, this is not inconceivable. I mean the president's son has active Trump family projects um uh in Serbia today. It is not inconceivable that you will be asked to advocate on behalf of those projects. Do you think it's appropriate for you to advocate on behalf of projects that put money in the pocket of the president of the United States?
Uh, Senator, I think it is the obligation of an ambassador to, uh, urge, uh, a country, uh, to consider all opportunities.
Uh, guys, the answer is no. The answer is no. It is not appropriate for an ambassador
No.
to advocate on behalf of projects that will enrich the president or his family. That's an easy answer. The answer is no. Thank you, Mister Chairman.
Uh, well, thank you, uh, Senator Murphy. I I think the uh the the question's a whole lot more complicated than what you've put in front of them. Uh, I think uh obviously uh legal advice would be important in that regard, ethics advice would be important in that regard, and I have every confidence that these people would seek such a uh advice and follow that advice uh that were was given to them. So I I think it's a more complicated question than a simple yes or a no. Would depend upon the circumstances of each case and would depend upon uh a lot of a lot of things. But i in any event um thank you uh for your answers on that and uh it I think what Senator Murphy just laid out is a uh good example of the kind of complicated questions and difficult choices that uh ambassadors have to make when you're when you're out in the field. But, uh, uh, being the United States of America, we have, uh, lanes and pathways for those decisions to to be vetted and then, uh, decisions to be made. So thank you. Thank you for your service. Senator Hagerty, welcome.
Good to be back, Mr. Chairman.
Thank you.
Thank you for calling on me. Um, and congratulations to all of you and thank you for your willingness to serve the greatest nation in the world, uh, as diplomats. Uh, your your charge is gonna be significant. I'd like to start with you, Dr. Nesk- Um, I'd like to talk to you about the importance of the Arctic for America's security and economic concerns. Um, I think conventional wisdom in many foreign policy zones would say that this is really a European or a NATO issue. But I learned in my time serving as ambassador to Japan that China is posing threats not only in that region but considerable threats and concerns around the world. And I'd just like to get your perspective on how you see the national security aspects the economic security aspects of the region, particularly if you could focus on China.
Thank you, Senator Hagerty. Um, yes, it's a it's a very important question. It it certainly does go beyond beyond Europe. Um, when we think about the Indo-Pacific region, there's there's also a Pacific side of of the Arctic, and we have to consider those those aspects. When you think about partners and allies like Japan, Korea, um, Singapore, they are Arctic observer states, and they all have also uh have taken the investment opportunity uh to look at economic security. In fact, I think Japan is now building its second icebreaker uh so they're all very concerned, especially when it comes to choke points as they're looking at shipping lanes as well, where they can do their trading and shipping um altogether. But um again, I wou I would say that the biggest concern would certainly be China uh once again, who who which again we all think I I know that is not an Arctic state, but again they do consider themselves an a near Arctic state. Um they have what's called a uh that they created a a number of years ago, basically um looking to have this dual use technology that that's out there, uh which I think is of of great concern um and again the concern will also be what are they doing with China. In fact uh there's been reports, open source reporting of these joint Russia-China patrols i in the region that have that have extended even through uh the Alaska waters. So there is there is some concern um in in that region as well too. So I think it's gonna be very important. Um I believe there's even discussion of having a a trilateral with US, Japan and and Korea on on Arctic issues, so I look forward, if confirmed, to work uh with them as well.
I I I certainly uh applaud the trilateral uh exercise that you're talking about, because I think the more that we can do with Japan, South Korea and other nations in the region to address what is a very common concern, uh I think that's very important and thank you for highlighting the Indo-Pacific aspect of our concerns in the Arctic. As I think about what the Trump administration has done in terms of anticipating and understanding this issue, they've entered a significant deal with Finland to make ice ice breakers. And in fact, I think el- el- seven of the eleven ice breakers are gonna be built here in US shipyards. But it's a critical move, I think, in terms of creating an industrial base and the strength to to be present in that region. Um, Going back to the China-Russia cooperation though, um how does the icebreaker deal impact uh how they may look at the region and how we should be posturing ourselves?
Thank you, Senator. That's a great question. Um, a as I was I was saying earlier, we we're certainly behind the curve here as Russia continues to militarize the region. They have uh over a dozen now icebreakers. Uh, China k also is is relying on some of that capital as well in the access to the Northern Sea route. Um, so it will be very important this ice pack deal and the expansion of it will help us have the capabilities as opposed to waiting over a decade to build an icebreaker. This will hopefully expedite that with the partnership of of Finland, and as well as the support of Canada.
So I I'm always curious how a title like ambassador at large fits into the State Department org chart uh my experience with the organization, it can be complicated. But I'd I would appreciate to the extent you have visibility on that, how will you fit into the organization chart and how will you get the support you need, because you're t- gonna touch many domains here with your responsibility. I'd I'd like to just get your commentary on on the organizational aspects of this.
Thank you, Senator. Um, I believe according to the statue and the creation of of this position, I would report to the secretary through the ac- through the Under-Secretary of Political Affairs, uh, P as the acronym. Um, but this this will probably be housed in, from what I understand, the EUR Bureau, the European Bureau.
Mm-hmm.
However, that being said, it'll be critical to work with, uh, other bureaus such as the East Asia Pacific Bureau,
Yep, exactly.
Um, uh, the Western Hemisphere Bureau, uh, emerging threats, I I mean they're pretty much all encompassing throughout the State Department. Having worked there, I kinda understand the dynamics of of of how the the regional bureaus and the functional bureaus work, so it'll be extremely important to be able to channel through and coordinate with each and every one of these bureaus.
Well, you've identified the concern very well, and that is it's tucked in away, tucked into a regional bureau with such broad responsibilities that would cut across many. I, you're certainly the right person for the job to figure out how that makes to ha- to make that happen and make it work within the construct of the current system. Uh, Mister Chairman, I just wanna thank and congrat- thank you, member Sheen, thank and congratulate all of the nominees here for being present today and wish you all the very best as you navigate this process. Thank you.
Thank you, uh, Senator Hagerty, and for those of you who didn't know, Senator Hagerty had the opportunity to sit right where you're sitting, uh, some years back, uh, before he went to Japan. He was ambassador to Japan, did a
Well, we can all get here, I think.
That's why he's so easy on you guys, you know, having sat there. In any event, um, uh, did a fantastic job for us in Japan and, uh, and really appreciate it. Uh, so with that, Senator Shaheen has already announced the second round, as she ordinarily does. So to my good friend and colleague, Senator Shaheen, I will yield.
Thank you. I only do it,
And by the way, Sophie
I only do it when I have additional questions,
Uh, by the way,
Mr. Chairman.
uh, I think all those remarks were made were, uh, uh, particularly appropriate about missing your expertise uh in the Balkans. I know you've spent a good share of good share of your uh career.
Well thank you I appreciate that.
Uh Senator Shaheen and I came in at the same time and we kinda had uh a- as frequently happens we have uh interests that are a little different and she's been focused on that and there and and it doesn't get the attention that it needs so we're we are gonna miss your expertise uh in that regard uh so Senator Shaheen.
Well thank you very much Mister Chairman and I I do have some more questions for mister Johnson, but um I wanna ask Miss Nishwa first about her um views on Arctic security, and I think it's very important that we have um someone in the position that you've been nominated for given the challenges that we're facing in the Arctic and as I'm sure you're aware, earlier this year Secretary Rubio reiterated the importance of strong engagement with NATO's seven Arctic countries. And yet, um, earlier, well in May, Senator uh Murkowski and I led an all female delegation to the Arctic. We visited um Northern Canada, Greenland, um Svalbard in Norway, and were supposed to go to Iceland and had trouble with the plane. But um one of the things we heard in that trip was concern about the position this administration has taken with respect to some of our traditional allies, Canada, um the threat to take action on Greenland, um the map showing Iceland as a US territory. None of those are conducive to the kind of partnership and collaboration we need with our A Arctic allies. So can you talk a little bit about how you would address the interest in ensuring that we have regular communication with our allies.
Thank you, Senator. I if confirmed, I I look forward to working with each and every one of our partners and allies, including the A seven partnership uh that was created earlier this year uh with our Nordic partners. Um I would say that it would also be important to work with our our US Nordic ambassadors too, and and if confirmed, I hope to maybe per perhaps hold uh monthly meetings uh from time to time to make sure we're all speaking
Um, well, thank you, as you point out, NATO has an important role to play and and they're doing a better job of recognizing how important that is um one of the um briefings that we got when we were in Svalbard, um which is above the Arctic Circle in Norway, was about Russia's increasing aggression in that region. And so can you talk about how you think we should be responding, um to what Russia's doing in the Arctic?
Well, thank you, Senator. A very important question. Uh, I was saying earlier to Seg- Sen- Senator Hagerty that with the Russia's continued militarization of the Arctic now, they are hurting a little bit economically because of the Russia-Ukraine war, um but they continue to dominate in the region, controlling access through the northern sea route. Um and the biggest I think challenge for us in the United States and for our Ar Arctic Pow- uh allies is to have those capabilities whether it's the ice breakers behind that having the the technology the innovation uh the support, I mean even the cold wear gear uh having been uh having participated in some of the military exercises, I noticed even our own troops were needing to uh use um for example Norwegian uniforms and boots to just to deal with the cold weather so there's a lot that we can learn from each other and cooperate both from an operational standpoint and that and and also even from um you know a security standpoint in the sense of those shared values and understanding that we need that domain awareness.
Well thank you, we have the cold regions lab in um Hanover, New Hampshire, and we would invite you to come and see what they're doing there to to address some of the concerns we have about being prepared for arctic um temperatures and weather.
Absolutely. Thank you.
Um, thank you. Mister Johnson, I w- I wanna I ask um Mister Young this question, but I didn't ask you whether you um also agree that what happened in Srebrenica was a genocide.
Thank you, Senator. I think I could unequivocally tell you, yes, Charbonneau was a genocide, as been the convictions that came through with the court systems that you mentioned earlier. Absolutely.
And do you agree that it's important for us to to make clear that that's the position of the United States, and particularly when we hear from um characters like um Milorad Dodek as he's trying to encourage separatism and um foment further ethnic tensions and religious tensions in Bosnia-Herzegovina, that it's important for us to be unequivocal in how we talk about that issue.
I think, Senator, you can rest assured that when I am in position that I will be very positive in recommending uh those courses of action as you mentioned earlier. Absolutely.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you all very much.
Um I join in that uh thanks to all of you, uh we had a unique opportunity here today to talk about some things that uh you might wind up with uh Senator Murphy raised some questions ethical questions and we don't we don't usually get into a discussion of that I'm sure they take that up when you go through school uh over at the State Department, the kinds of things that uh that you're gonna deal with but uh uh my experience over the years and is that um ambassadors wind up with some very unique situations and ones that uh that require you to write home and find out what uh what needs to go on so. Th- thank you again uh to you uh and and to your families uh for being here today, uh certainly a distinguished panel that we had today, and uh I wanna thank you all for the benefit of your testimony uh and candor uh with us. Uh for the record I wanna note that uh and for information's uh of of the members, the record will remain open until the close of business tomorrow, Friday, September eighteenth. for members to submit questions. If there are questions submitted, I'd urge you to uh get answers as quickly as you can as it will help move the proceedings along for your confirmation. Uh with that, there'd be no further business uh to come before the committee. Uh the committee is adjourned.
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