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Hearings to examine Biden Health Officials and COVID-19 Vaccine Safety Signals.

Wednesday, April 29, 2026

Summary

  • Ron Johnson released interim report alleging Biden FDA officials knowingly used flawed surveillance that masked COVID vaccine safety signals for serious adverse events.
  • Karl Jablonowski (Director of Science and Research, Children's Health Defense) testified pharmacovigilance failed because CDC ignored procedures and FDA used blinded surveillance system.
  • Richard Blumenthal asked Maria Young (COVID-19 Survivor) if she would still get vaccinated, and she answered yes without question despite potential risks.
  • Ron Johnson claimed vaccines caused widespread harm concealed by officials, while Richard Blumenthal maintained vaccines were safe, effective, and saved millions.
  • Ron Johnson vowed to continue investigation and hold future hearing with vaccine-injured individuals to push public disclosure and treatment options.

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Sen. Johnson (WI)22:07 – 25:57

Good afternoon. This uh hearing of the US Senate Permanent Subcommittee investigations uh will come to order. Uh I want to first thank uh the witnesses for your time and effort in appearing here today for your and for your testimony. Uh in conjunction with this hearing, I am releasing an interim report titled Unmasked How Biden Health Officials Purposely Turned a Blind Eye Toward COVID-19 Vaccine or I call them injection, uh, injuries, safety signals. I urge everyone tuning in to today's hearing to read the full report, to determine for yourself how the title is as accurate as it is incriminating. To set the stage for what follows, let me remind everyone that Doctor David Morins, uh, now indicted for this, uh, under conspiracy and destruction of records charges, uh, he was an advisor to Anthony Fauci, she emailed to colleagues on how to evade freedom of information requests, quote, " I learned from our FOIA lady here how to make dis emails disappear." And how we wanted, quote, " correspondence on sensitive issues to be sent to me at my Gmail address," unquote. Included in this report is additional evidence of how federal health officials avoided creating a paper trail to prevent transparency in public disclosure. In discussing how they've been warned of a major limitation of data mining system, one senior FTA official wrote, quote, "we should meet internally. Many considerations not suited to email." Unquote. Other federal officials appear to have openly acknowledged that they were actively attempting to avoid transparency. A CDC official discussing the sharing of vaccine safety data stated, quote, " I think because of the FOIAs, we may have asked FTA to stop sending these weekly data mining outputs." Unquote. In spite of their concerted effort to concede Documents we've retained, thanks to Secretary Kennedy's responsiveness to my subpoena and his commitment to radical transparency paint a clear picture of an obvious cover-up by federal health officials. Our report shows how FDA officials were warned and fully aware of their safety s- surveillance system's inability to adjust for a statistical phenomenon called masking, which according to medical researchers occurs when, quote, signals for a vaccine of interest are hidden by presence of other reported vaccines." Rather than using a newer state of the art system that can adjust for masking, Biden health officials purposefully chose to employ the older system that conceals the signals for serious adverse events associated with the COVID injection. Throughout two thousand twenty one, FDA officials received multiple analyses from the state of the art system, showing statistically significant safety signals for adverse events. but made a conscious decision to ignore that data. On uh October twenty two, two thousand twenty, CDC's Tom Shimbab-Bakuro touted VAERS by saying it can quote " rapidly detect safety signals" and can detect rare adverse events unquote. But in email an a year later, when VAERS was reporting worldwide adverse events of eight hundred and thirty-seven thousand five hundred ninety-five and seventeen thousand, Six hundred nineteen deaths. Doctor stated, quote, it's not a database that should be used for serious surveillance and research. And we have up on the screen um a chart that I produced almost weekly once I started tracking this. And and you'll notice uh it compares different drugs, uh adverse events reported of those things, deaths, deaths per year. Um you'll see at the top of the the the chart,

Sen. Blumenthal (CT)25:56 – 25:56

Mm.

Sen. Johnson (WI)25:57 – 35:06

Ivermectin appears to be a pretty safe drug. very bottom, covid vaccines, and again, this is in October of two thousand twenty one. Uh, seventeen thousand six hundred and nineteen deaths. It's important to note that thirty-two percent of those occurred either on the day of vaccination or within one or two days of vaccination. I know VAERS doesn't prove causation, but that is a correlation that uh federal health officials ought to be looked at. In reaction to the skyrocketing number of deaths and adverse events, other Biden administration and federal health officials were also publicly denigrating Vayer's with comments like quote, falsified Vayer's report, potentially misleading Vayer's posts, frequently misused by anti-vaccine activists and quote, conspiracy theorists, science deniers, and anti-vaccine activists can fill out the form. Now this is quite honestly contrary to reports in terms of the high percentage that are actually reported by medical professionals. The federal health a agencies had to be sued twice before a court finally forced them to disclose the results of the VSAfe system, an online self-reporting safety for surveillance system, created specifically for the mRNA COVID injections. Here's why they fought so hard to keep that from public view. Of the ten million people who voluntarily provided information to VSAfe, Seven point seven percent sought medical care for COVID injection adverse events, and twenty five percent lost time at work or couldn't perform their daily routine following injection. Even though I wrote twenty one letters requesting information on what the agencies were tracking, and what they knew about adverse events, I didn't need sophisticated mathematical models to tell me the COVID injection was causing significant harm. The data depicted on these charts Alone should have raised the alert level to DEFCON one. Now, this first chart is showing deaths reported on VAERS since the inception of VAERS. You can see starting nineteen ninety, deaths were approximately a couple hundred per year. Anaphylactic shock, those types of things. In twenty twenty one, deaths spiked to twenty one thousand six hundred thirty one. Now again, I didn't need a mathematical algorithm to tell me there's something going on here. And by the way, a lot of people say, well, that's because we administered billions of doses. One of the letters I wrote to the CDC showed the rate of death per dose, compared it to the flu, which is about point four six deaths per million doses. By the time we calculated this, the COVID injection was twenty five point five. deaths per million doses. That's a fifty five fold increase over the deaths for the flu flu vaccine. So something was going on here. Our federal health officials shouldn't be paying attention. Let's do the next chart. This is the uh the most up to date VAERS chart now. It's showing thirty nine thousand seventy seven deaths worldwide reported to VAERS and and understand and we'll we'll be adding this to the the record, the the Pilgrim Report. An HHS funded Pilgrim study at Harvard University showed that adverse events for vaccines are reported at less than one percent. So this grossly understates the number of adverse events and deaths, and you can see adverse events are almost one point seven million. Multiply that times what, a hundred? Thirty? These are dramatically understated. In spite of these shocking numbers, federal health officials continued to recommend the ejection, claiming it both safe and effective. By comparison, in nineteen seventy six, after approximately twenty five to thirty deaths, and over five hundred cases of Giron-Barre syndrome, the swine swine flu vaccine was pulled from the market. Biden federal health officials were clearly not as vigilant in reacting to what Veers was showing. For over four years, I have wondered how health officials could possibly ignore this overwhelming evidence of harm. Now I know. I'll report details that on March first, two thousand twenty one, less than three months after the COVID injections received an emergency use authorization, Peter Marks, the head of CBER and officials reporting to him were warned by FDA's Doctor Anna Sch- Scharfman and an individual who these officials recognize as an expert in FDA's data mining that the current system would mask safety signals for COVID injection adverse Doctor Sharfman proposed a new model, a new method, invented by Doctor William McG uh Dum M Dumaschel of Oracle, the inventor of the current algorithm, to uncover the saf- the hidden safety signals. On March twenty six, two thousand twenty one, six six twenty six days later, Doctor Sharfman sent Doctor Dumaschel's data analysis to senior FD officials showing that the new analytic analytical method found quote, forty nine of extreme masking and uncovered approximately twenty-five statistically significant safety signals of adverse events associated with the COVID injection, including let's put up the next chart here. Here's the sheet. These are the adverse events that they were showing a safety signal for using the new method. Bell's palsy, sinus rhythm, cardiac failure, Chronic. Acute left ventricular failure. A gonal rhythm, which is severe arrhythmia arrhythmia generally occurred at the at the end of life. Pulmonary infarction. Cerebral artery occlusion. Aortic stenosis. Sudden cardiac death. Hypertensive emergency. Basal ganglia stroke. Now, now, now these aren't minor. Remember, we're always told, you know, f Uh, adverse events are rare and minor. These are not minor adverse events, and this these safety signals were showing and they were strong, but they were being hidden because FTA officials refused to acknowledge that the current system they were using was invalidated. And they had to look at the new system that unmasks these things. Our report goes on to detail how federal officials refused to acknowledge these rev revelations or take action to warn the public. Instead, senior FTA officials repeatedly stopped to stop repeatedly tried to stop Doctor Scharffman from continuing her work or commuting communicating her findings outside of FTA. In September two thousand twenty one, Doctor Mor Marx informed Doctor Patricia Cavazzoni, the then director of CEDAR, that Doctor Scharffman, who was a CEDAR employee, quote, has been asked to cease and desist, conducting her data analysis. Doctor Marx complained that doctor Sharfman work was had become quote a major distraction, that her efforts could create erroneous conflicts that feed to anti-vaccination rhetoric. Doctor Peter Stein, the then director of Cedars office of new drugs, reported doctor Marks at his office had quote made it clear to doctor Sharfman quote that she should not be discussing providing internal analyses ex externally, and needs to focus on her assigned work. Doctor Scharfman, who retired from the FDA in two thousand twenty five after more than thirty five years of service, told PSI staff in a recent interview that she believed her FDA colleagues saw her as a, quote, pest and, quote, persona non grata, unquote, because she was raising concerns about masking. Our witnesses today are medical researchers and experts in scientific data collection. They will help clarify the masking issue and describe why this cover-up was so egregious. I want to thank them for the time and effort they've put I also want to thank Secretary Kennedy for his commitment to radical transparency and for promising to make HHS personnel with knowledge of these events available for interviews with s subcommittee and I also want to give a huge shout out to my staff. Uh, the these are the these are the folks who found a needle in a haystack in a document production from one of the universities that we were investigating two and half years ago found that David Morin's email Where he was talking about being able to, you know, being told how to make emails disappear. And to use as Gmail. So these are the folks who did that, and these are the folks who have combed through eleven million pages to find and discover this egregious cover-up. So thank you guys, and with that I'll turn it over to uh Senator Blumenthal.

Sen. Blumenthal (CT)35:10 – 35:45

Thanks, Chairman Johnson. Um I mean, everything that's been said. I think we ought to remember what it was like during the height of the covid pandemic. Literally, the fear, the death, the loss. And then the relief. As a result of Operation Warp Speed. Which President Trump ordered. in having a vaccine that gave people hope

Sen. Johnson (WI)35:46 – 35:46

Mmm.

Sen. Blumenthal (CT)35:48 – 40:36

and many people life. At the same time, none of the relief or hope enabled loved ones to come back. They lost lives and families had their lives upended. And we can never forget the heroes in our health care system who braved COVID in delivering care to people who needed it in hospitals, many of them for weeks, sometimes months. We are fortunate to have with us Maria Young. Thank you for coming here today. who spent many days in hospital close to seventy days in intensive care uh most lives were forever changed as a result but the vaccine offered a path forward for so many people and we should be thankful for operation warp speed in january twenty twenty one more than twenty thousand americans were dying each week from covid-nineteen between twenty twenty twenty and twenty twenty five more than one point two million americans lost their lives to covid-nineteen that's one point two million parents children friends loved ones and those deaths changed not only their families but their communities and our nation husbands lost wives parents lost children and in addition to those who perished millions were infected and many of them suffered life-changing injuries from the virus and employers suffered economically as did our overall economy and uh the survivors still bear, many of them still bear the scars of that experience emotionally, if not physically. Years of scientific analysis have shown that COVID-19 vaccines saved lives and prevented serious illnesses like the one that Ms. Young suffered. I don't agree with President Trump on a lot, but I have to give him credit for the work that was done to create covid-nineteen vaccines in record time. But instead of talking about the success, and remembering the ones we lost, vaccine opponents have turned one of the greatest scientific breakthroughs in our country's history into a fodder for political attack. I I don't get it. Today's hearing purports to discuss a cover-up of side effects of the covid-nineteen vaccine, as if serious flaws in vaccines were purposely ignored. And let me be clear, they were not ignored. They were not disregarded. They were not covered up. The majority's report cherry picks emails and misconstrues an internal debate between scientists who were actively looking for ways to detect side effects to support a predetermined and flawed thesis that COVID-19 vaccines have done more harm then good that's not the scientific method to have a preconceived result and then frame the evidence to fit the outcome the report and documents that the majority has released simply do not support the notion of any kind of cover-up nor do the reports and documents do anything to change our understandings of the vaccines as safe and effective These points are important for the public to understand. And, with all due respect, nothing that Chairman Johnson has released shows the vaccines were linked to any adverse effects beyond the rare ones that health officials have acknowledged. Indeed, the risk of stroke, he claims, was hidden, not only was studied openly, but later shown not to exist. Without objection, I would like to enter into the record the four studies demonstrating the COVID-19 vaccines and boosters saved lives, Mister Chairman.

Sen. Johnson (WI)40:36 – 40:36

Without objection.

Sen. Blumenthal (CT)40:38 – 41:44

There is also a really deep irony in the majority's argument, given the current administration's overt effects to skew science and undermine public health. Last week, I wrote to the acting CDC director, Doctor Jay, Bhattacharya about reports that he has blocked publication of a recent study showing that COVID-19 vaccines were extremely effective at preventing hospitalizations last winter. That study still has not been formally released, although I understand that a copy was somehow leaked, literally, hours before this hearing. magically released. But not officially. And therefore, I call on the CDC director to officially release that report again. I asked my letter to him to be entered in the record, if there's no objection.

Sen. Johnson (WI)41:45 – 41:45

No objection.

Sen. Blumenthal (CT)41:46 – 42:51

I sincerely hope we never face another pandemic. I think most Americans join in that hope. And w- that we are still able to find dedicated scientists and, yes, pharmaceutical companies willing to work around the clock to find vaccines and cures, and public officials who are willing to support and encourage and to fund them with resources. I fear that this administration's actions to politicize science and slash scientific funding and to expel talented scientists are doing irreparable harm to our nation's ability to counter the next pandemic, the threat remains real and present, and we must respect science and encourage our scientists to continue to do their work. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Sen. Johnson (WI)42:52 – 43:48

Thank you, Senator Blumenthal. Uh, before we sort out witnesses, uh enter a number of uh records in into the record. Uh first the majority staff interim report. And the five hundred and ninety-six pages and ten spreadsheets uh that support that report. Uh second, my December fifteenth, two thousand twenty-five letter to HHA secretary Kennedy requesting information about an internal FDA memo on deaths of children following COVID-nineteen uh vaccination. Uh then my March twenty-third, twenty twenty-six letter to secretary Kennedy detailing the subcommittee's findings about masking, how federal health officials ignored and downplayed the risk of ischemic stroke, following vaccination of Pfizer's COVID-19 bivalent booster. And finally, a two thousand ten report entitled, the electronic support for public health vaccine adverse events reporting system. Again, this is the uh, what they call the Pilgrim study done by Harvard. So I'd like to end those on the record.

Sen. Blumenthal (CT)43:48 – 43:53

Mister Chairman, as I indicated previously, I have a judiciary committee hearing, and I'll be right back.

Sen. Johnson (WI)43:53 – 45:06

OK, sounds good. Uh, without objection. on my entering records into the So it is the uh tradition of this subcommittee to swear in witnesses, so if you all rise and raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm the testimony you will give before this subcommittee will be the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you God? Please be seated. Our first witness is Doctor David Wiseman. Doctor Wiseman is the president of Synecion. Did I get that close? Pretty close. Synecion. There you go. I I actually practiced that beforehand and I still blew it. Uh, an R and D company focused on fibrosis and pain. He received his PHD from the University of Manchester and has a background in experimental pathology pharmacology and immunology. From nineteen eighty seven to ninety four he worked at Johnson & Johnson, rising to the position of barakah to Adam Mahom, shaykh Ali ibn barakah

David Wiseman (Witness)45:14 – 50:46

hey me distinguished chairman ranking member and committee members With today's stunning revelations, I am humbled to discuss critical flaws in statistical safety signal and potential risk detection in VAS touted by CDC as the nation's early warning system for vaccine safety and credited by former CIBA Director Marx with detecting both potential and actual safety issues and informing vaccine policy decisions. Among limitations undermining detection of statistical safety signals is the problem of Masking occurs when statistical signals for one vaccine in a database are obscured by reports associated with other vaccines for example Moderna's myocard myocarditis signal becomes hidden if it if its comparison baseline is artificially inflated by including Pfizer's myocard myocarditis signal reports. In a simple analogy, hemlock and arsenic appear equally toxic when compared separately, with a non-toxic baseline control such as tea. However, if hemlocks baseline data include arsenic data, hemlock signal is drowned out or masked, appearing innocuous. Today's report shows that senior FDA staff were apprised of the masking problem both prior to COVID vaccine rollout and repeatedly by Doctor Anna Schaffman. Doctor Schaffman is a veteran FDA statistician, lauded for bringing the empirical Bayesian into fda after collaborating with its inventor and developer of the of the associated signal software, oracles doctor william dumichel. shaftman communicated dumichel's findings of extreme masking, including death, myocard myocardial infarction, stroke and dementia, noting that i am not astonished that fda s analysis was was unable to detect these signals. She repeatedly advised colleagues of Dumouchel's improved procedures, not not brand new, they'd been around a while, to address masking in the same empiricus signal software used by FDA and commercially available. Nonetheless, officials attempted to contain Doctor Schaffman, asking her to cease and desist. Elsewhere, officials claimed ignorance on how to address masking, and that developing solutions exceeded FDA's capabilities considering it problematic to use a brand new, possibly unvalidated tool in the context of an EUA. FDA had validated methods adaptable to demask sig signals. In a special data run in the new documents, FDA's doctor doc FDA's doctor Menchik found a muting trend yet to appear in the record. In the related PRR or proportional reporting ratio analyses required of them by the VAS standard operating CDC somewhat accounted for masking. In twenty twenty two, Schaffman and Dumouchel published in the leading journal Drug Safety, their masking concerns and the improved method, unmasking hundreds of statistical signals for the COVID vaccines, consistent with my analysis. Despite possessing both software and in-house expertise, regulators failed to implement the solution to correct for masking, a striking failure given the accelerated deployment by operation warp speed of a novel and most complex class of drugs ever, MRNA. Compounding further, CDC considered that its PRR analyses were rendered basically redundant by FDA's Bayesian work, discarding its responsibility to generate these PRRs. Accordingly, the United States lacked a fully functional early warning system at the time of its greatest need. Separately, statistical signals were trivialized by avoiding the term signal or potential safety signal. These failures are incomp incompatible with the so-called enhanced surveillance required by their standard operating procedures hindering investigation of potential risks FDA was obliged to consider even without having to prove causality. And impugning vaccine injury compensation authorization and approval decisions, principle of which was Cominart's hastened full approval undertaken while Doctor Schaffman was voicing her concerns. Further, they marginalized those apparently injured by COVID vaccines. Not only did the system fail to perform as advertised, but as the drug safety paper presciently warned, the COVID vaccine reporting deluge likely created masking effects that now compromise for other vaccines going forward, and there are several papers that describe this. Regulators must swiftly correct masking and other of theirs deficiencies, heeding earlier warnings of their former colleagues, doctors Marks and Juergen, who said failure to detect and communicate a serious health issue related to vaccines could impact confidence, not only in conf COVID vaccines, but in all all vaccines. Thank you. I welcome your questions.

Sen. Johnson (WI)50:47 – 51:11

Thank you, Doctor Wiseman. Our next uh witness is Doctor Carl Jablonowski. Doctor Jablonowski is the Director of Science and Research at Children's Health Defense. He holds a Master's Degree in Computer Science from the University of Chicago, and a PHD in Biomedical and Health Informatics from the University of Washington School of Medicine. His research focuses on bringing about an end to childhood health epidemics. Uh, Doctor Jablonowski.

Karl Jablonowski (Witness)51:12 – 56:25

Thank you, Chairman. Pharmacovigilance is absolutely necessary. Our knowledge is limited, even of a vaccine that passes clinical trials of a few thousand very healthy people. We simply do not know what adverse events look like in a diverse large population, until they're administered to a diverse large population. We had better be watching very closely, which is pharmacovigilance. The vaccines, by honest accounting, were pathetically testifying. Pre-EUA, no drug-drug interaction study, no cardiovascular toxicity, central nervous system toxicity, other organ toxicity, blood toxicity, genotoxicity, carcinogenicity. Had they actually turned out to be safe, it would have been serendipitous, a happy accident. Luck is not a pillar of public health. Pharmaco-vigilance behind closed doors should give everyone pause. It is simply too important to not do it correctly. Lapses can be, and were, catastrophic. The vigilance heavily depends on three sources of data, the passive surveillance of VERS, the active surveillance of VSAFE, and the VSD, an active system linked to medical records. VSAFE was designed to collect inconsequential data. One of the first papers to publish was a mortality and adverse event study. The only figure in the entire paper was a time series comparison for both Moderna and Pfizer for both dose one and dose two of adverse events no one cares about. Injection site pain, fatigue, headache, myalgia, chills, and joint pain. Doctor Renata Engler is distinguished in the study of vaccine-induced myocarditis among US military, with four public On the CDC, not including myocarditis in V safe, she asked. If you do not ask, you will not see it. But does that mean it does not exist? Within fifty days of that meeting, Doctor Engler would start adding four more publications on COVID-19, vaccine associated myocarditis. The CDC already had in hand Israel's slides. The V safe system had ten million volunteers. About One third entered free text. Perhaps there is some horror found in the three hundred and sixty-six individuals who typed in myocarditis, a condition requiring medical diagnosis. That is amplified by the nearly fifty thousand people who typed in chest pain. The Vaccine Safety Data Link is a collection of thirteen health care organizations covering fifteen and a half million people. It can detect safety issues within a few weeks. most frequently used as rapid cycle analysis, which can miss delayed onset events. Better and timely options, like the vaccinated versus unvaccinated, or pre-post, is rarely used. And they would need the well-practiced extra step of considering differences in healthcare seeking behavior. By the time the CDC's web page was updated to warn of inflammation of the heart, three hundred and thirteen million doses were administered to one hundred and seventy-three million people. I do not see vigilance at work. With VAERS, the CDC chose to ignore its own standard operating procedure and not run proportional reporting ratios in favor of the FDA's, what Walensky calls more robust and Shima Bhaskara calls the gold standard. VAERS had been grossly under-reported for the first thirty years, maxing out at fifty-eight thousand reports. In its thirty-first year alone, VAERS logged eighteen times that number. Because of this disproportionality, the FDA's disproportionality analysis was washed out. Since both vaccines were the same platform and same adverse events, the comparison was muted. This isn't a blind spot. The FDA was completely blind to adverse events, and the CDC wasn't even looking. There was a savior in the ranks of the FDA who correctly identified the problem. appropriately worked with the inventor of EB data mining to create a solution, communicated the fix to everyone who would listen. The problem is, no one listened. Luck was not on our side. The CDC failed to look. The FDA failed to fix a broken system that the CDC touted as the gold standard. The HHS failed to protect us, especially after our freedom of choice was assaulted by the president threatening us all with our patience is wearing thin. Foyer evasion was well practiced and discovered obviously not through a foyer. Simply put, during the largest pharmaceutical rollout in human history, pharmacovigilance did not exist. That is the betrayal of our time, so vast that we cannot even count its casualties.

Sen. Johnson (WI)56:28 – 56:35

Thank you, Doctor Jablonski. Our final witness is Miss Maria Young. Miss Young will discuss her severe COVID-19 illness,

Maria Young (Witness)56:53 – 56:56

Thank you. My name is Maria Young.

Sen. Johnson (WI)56:54 – 56:55

Thank you. Thank you.

Maria Young (Witness)56:56 – 1:03:10

Thank you to the committee members for inviting me to share my story today. Survivor, warrior, miracle. These are all words that have been used to describe me over the last five years. They aren't words I would have chosen for myself. For me, I was just trying to regain the life I had lost to COVID before we had vaccines or any possible treatments. In twenty twenty, I went from being a healthy, active woman with a full career to being sedated, paralyzed, and placed on life support within days. I became a survivor of severe COVID-nineteen, ARDS, acute respiratory distress syndrome, after spending sixty-nine days on ECMO, extra-corporeal membrane oxygenation, and seventy days on a ventilator. I am here because survival is not the end of the story. For those unfamiliar, ECMO is a rare form of life support, used when the lungs can no longer function on their own. Blood is removed from the body. oxygenated by a machine, and returned. It is invasive, complex, and used only when all other options have failed. ECMO does not heal the lungs. It buys hope and a little time. But that hope comes with significant risks. Stroke, neurological injury, blood clots, infections, limb loss, organ failure, and of course death. I spent more than four months in the hospital, most of it in the intensive care unit, ICU, most of it in a medically induced coma, and most of it alone. When I finally woke up, I had no memory of the time that had passed, and no understanding of how much I had lost. During those months, my family lived through trauma that still echoes today. My mother was told repeatedly that I was not expected to survive. My sister wrote my eulogy. My family prepared themselves for the unimaginable, all without being able to see me in person. Day after day, my mother waited by the phone for a call for a call from my doctor with the update for to that day. They carried grief and hope at the same time, a burden that families of critically ill patients know all too well. While I was unconscious, my body endured a long list of complications that many ECMO survivors face. Multiple inflec- infections, including one that almost took my vision, blood clots, collapsed lungs, severe muscle wasting and deconditioning, delirium and hallucinations, prolonged sedation and sedation drug withdrawal, blood transfusions, a tracheostomy, a feeding tube, pressure wounds, a deep neck wound from cannulation, and long-term cognitive and physical impacts. These complications are not footnotes. They are the reality of surviving critical respiratory illness. They shape recovery for months and often years. They are especially hard when the diagnosis and treatment lack understanding and support. When I finally woke up, I had to relearn how to breathe, how to swallow, how to sit up, stand, and walk. I had to rebuild my life from the ground up. And while I'm deeply grateful to be alive, gratitude does not erase the trauma. Survival comes with weight, the weight of knowing how close I came to dying and that many others weren't as lucky. When I was discharged, my list of diagnoses included dysautonomia, cognitive impairment, demoralization, severe body deconditioning, Long COVID, partial vocal cord paralysis, and post-intensive care syndrome, among others. But alongside that weight is profound gratitude, gratitude for the nurses who spoke to me even when I was unconscious. Gratitude for the respiratory therapists who taught me how to breathe again. Gratitude for the physical and occupational therapists who celebrated every inch of progress. And gratitude for the doctors at Johns Hopkins who made bold decisions to save me, including placing me on my stomach while on ECMO to try to improve my lung function and oxygenation, something that had never been done before at Johns Hopkins on a patient on ECMO with a tracheostomy. They believed my life was worth fighting for. And gratitude for my community. who held my family up when they could no longer do it on their own. My experience led me to advocacy. Over the last several years, I have connected with hundreds of survivors, people living with long COVID, families who lost loved ones to COVID-19 or while on ECMO, and ECMO survivors who carry scars, both visible and invisible. These communities are full of people who taught, who fought for their lives or for the loved or their loved one's lives. And emerged in a world that often moved on without them. Many feeling abandoned by systems not built for long-term recovery, by insurance structures that don't recognize the complexity of a post-ICU life, by a public narrative that treats survival as the end of the story. My work is to make sure they are seen, heard, and supported. That's why I stay up to date on my COVID boosters and other vaccinations. I also continue advocacy with organizations like your family to share my story through them, through my personal connections, and encourage everyone to continue to get vaccinated against COVID-19 and other diseases in the hopes of helping people avoid the same traumatic experience I and my family went through or worse. Survival should not be followed by fear. It should be followed by support, protection, and a chance to rebuild a life with dignity. Thank you for your time.

Sen. Johnson (WI)1:03:12 – 1:07:38

Thank you for sharing your story, Miss Young. I would, I would love to connect you with Brian Dressen. Uh, many of the things you said are exact same words I've heard from the COVID injection injured. These people were healthy, they were active, now they're permanently disabled. Uh, when I first met them, held held our first event in Milwaukee. All they wanted was to be seen, heard, and believed. That was their third, you know, seen, heard, and believed, so they could, they could get treatment. They still can't get treatment because they are not being acknowledged. I I wanna, once I introduce this video, I wanna start my Q and A with with a one minute video. Uh, but to set it up, this is a video of recordings of Zoom calls between the vaccine engine. By the way, React nineteen, I think I read, they've got something like forty thousand active members. Uh, they probably would have more if Facebook wouldn't, Facebook hadn't been shutting down their support groups, leading to suicides among those, lack of that support. But this is actually a a a note in terms of what this video describes here from Brea Andresen. She writes, " Beginning in March, twenty twenty one, seriously COVID-nineteen vaccine injured patients were flown to NIH, and this is March, twenty twenty one, the same time they were made aware of the fact that they were gonna mask the safety signals using the algorithm. Vaccine injured patients were flown to NIH headquarters for extensive testing and evaluation and treatment. Study participants, and I think there are about twenty-three of them. Study participants received credible diagnoses, including quote, post-vaccination neuropathy. Not again, they were diagnosed as vaccine injured. And specialized treatments, the participants say, saved their lives. They were incredibly grateful. That the NIH, people like Doctor Nath, were were paying attention to them and in treating them and in improving their severe injuries. That same month, NIH researchers began promising participants that the study and their injuries would be made public. And apparently email where that promise was made was also uh uh copied to Peter Marks and Acting FDA Commissioner Janet Woodcock. The NIH then asked participants to remain quiet. Say nothing. And tell the disclosed to study themselves. They complied. They feared if they were to go public, they'd lose the treatment. That all the thousands of other injured that were counting on them to be studied, to develop cures, wouldn't receive treatment either. So they stayed silent. Holding onto the promise that help is coming for the many others nationwide. That study and the injuries were never disclosed to the public. They were lied to. And this video, again, read my report, Senator Bluma, I c- I cannot believe you read my report based on your opening statement. Read my report. It is irrefutable. But the video is of Peter Marks, head of CBIR, the man who was notified on March first, two thousand twenty one, that the the safety surveillance system that they were gonna use to detect those rare and mild safety signals was invalid. It was gonna mask those, it was gonna hide those very safety signals. Again, twenty six days later. An, as say the art system showed twenty five safety signals and I read how severe those adverse events were. But just listen to what Peter Marks, with the knowledge that he was treating vaccine injured injur and they weren't mild injuries. These were life-threatening injuries. These were total dis- disability type of injuries. So he knew it. He was treating them. He knew that his service safety surveillance system was masking these signals. They lied to them. listen to what peter marks had to say it's about a minute long video

Peter Marks (Witness)1:07:44 – 1:07:53

there is incredible bs out there uh uh about like thousands of people dying etcetera that just ain't true

Brian Dressen (Witness)1:07:53 – 1:08:30

no one's denying that adverse events can occur that doesn't mean that any given individual might not have had something related to the vaccine i'm not i'm not denying anything the issue is that the you couldn't really tell uh you you just couldn't tell whether there was a signal or not

Sen. Johnson (WI)1:08:27 – 1:08:27

yeah

Peter Marks (Witness)1:08:30 – 1:08:36

it's something that's been reported but not as something that is clearly uh vaccine related.

Brian Dressen (Witness)1:08:37 – 1:08:42

You guys know we exist. We know that you know that we exist. But the public doesn't think that you guys know that we exist.

Sen. Johnson (WI)1:08:44 – 1:10:10

That was Brian Dresen at the very end there. Again, they were pleading with the officials at the FDA NIH that knew they were severely injured by the vaccine. Counting on them to make that public, to study their results so that others could get treated. To this day, they have not done so. Put put up a chart number two here. Doctor Wiseman. Again, I I know you you've looked into this in a great deal of depth. You know, the the in the part of the very complex mathematical models of and algorithms of empirical Bayesian analysis. I'm not a statistician. I'm I'm just a lowly account. How in the world Could the people who were touting VAERS, Tom Shimabukuro in October of twenty twenty, this is, you know, this is a system that can really detect even small safety signals. They had to hire the contractor that was putting VAERS, you know, the VAERS reports into VAERS. They had to hire thousands more people because the overwhelming numbers of reports. Did did you did you need a if a fancy statistical algorithm to tell you that something was going wrong here with these injections?

David Wiseman (Witness)1:10:11 – 1:11:52

Yeah, clear clearly there's some big alarm bells that are going off there, but um I I I I do wanna point out that you know, one of the criticisms of VAERS is that, you know, that's stimulated reporting and anyone can report and all that sort of thing. The point about these disproportionality analyses is that it actually removes that from from the equation because in the way the mathematics are done so so obviously there is red flags in that in that sort of chart that you are showing there but but but the key point about the these disproportionality analyses the Bayesian data mining the PRR and others is that it actually removes that from the equation because of the niceties of how the mathematics are done so it's really important so the in the in the uh list of uh forty nine uh events that that you've listed there um these are all showing uh uh signals for for the for the the basium beta mining and also not only that, in the PRR method, which is masked, they're showing they're showing signals. So so whichever way you look at it, there's signals. And and the key point, Senator, is that um for the purpose of the EUA, the FDA will require to consider not only actual proven risks, but potential risks, and potential risks are represented by signals without necessarily having to prove causality. But in all the decisions that the the law is very clear, it says the FDA has to consider actual and potential risks. And by hiding the potential risks in the various ways that you've described, um, the the the the public would deprive of of this knowledge, the doctors would deprive of their knowledge, the ACIP and the Verb Act committees would deprive of this knowledge. So so every way you look at it, there's a problem.

Sen. Johnson (WI)1:11:50 – 1:12:18

OK, so. So again, so so my sophisticated mathematical model, when people push back on this, well yeah, Sanders, because we had So so we calculated deaths per million doses, compared that to the flu. Again, that's disproportionate, right? Disproportionality. So flu averaged about point four six deaths per million. And we did the calculations, twenty five point five, that that's pretty disproportionate to me. Th throw on,

David Wiseman (Witness)1:12:18 – 1:12:18

Right.

Sen. Johnson (WI)1:12:19 – 1:12:23

you know, combining with that, again, I, you don't need, they didn't need.

David Wiseman (Witness)1:12:24 – 1:12:24

Well, well, the

Sen. Johnson (WI)1:12:24 – 1:12:29

And and and again, then they they had the vaccine injured in front of them. They were

Karl Jablonowski (Witness)1:12:40 – 1:13:16

Um, several years ago, Doctor Brian Hooker and I did an analysis of VARs when we tried to pinpoint when enough VARs reports had existed to identify myocarditis. And that dates all the way back to the week of February nineteenth. of twenty twenty one, which is well before even Israel contacts the CDC saying we're seeing a whole lot of myocarditis we wanna speak with the relevant expert at CDC it is way before anyone in the United States was that the CDC admitted to them on May twenty eighth.

Sen. Johnson (WI)1:13:18 – 1:13:22

OK. Uh, I actually they didn't start the clock right away, so I'll reel to my ranking member now.

Sen. Blumenthal (CT)1:13:28 – 1:14:10

thanks mr. chairman um i um would like to enter into the record a twenty twenty four study from fda and cms which concluded there there was quote no statistically significant association between either mrna vaccine and stroke i'd also like to enter into the record a letter from the american heart association stating that there is a quote substantially elevated risk of stroke from covid nineteen infection there's no objection mr. jim

Sen. Johnson (WI)1:14:10 – 1:14:11

without objection

Sen. Blumenthal (CT)1:14:13 – 1:16:59

um there's no clear let alone convincing evidence that covid-nineteen vaccines have caused adverse effects beyond the rare ones that public health officials have acknowledged. There is clear evidence that COVID-nineteen itself is linked with many worse adverse events, including stroke. And there are signs that the administration is regretting its implied or explicit opposition to the use of vaccines in America today, because they are so contrary to what people across the country really believe and correctly believe that vaccines actually do save lives. Uh, I'd like to ask, uh, Ms. Young a couple of questions, but first I wanna thank you again. Obviously, this moment is a very, very difficult one. for you as it would be for anyone recalling almost seventy days in a coma two hundred plus days in a hospital in intensive care near death um at the time you entered the hospital there were no vaccines available by the time you finished life support there were multiple vaccines and millions of people had been inoculated and so in a sense your story is about re-entering the world, a different world, a better world, that would have saved you from this horrific ordeal. Um, but this basic truth, this miraculous outcome, during the time that you were unconscious, became tarnished when opportunists began raising false alarms and warned of hidden harms from vaccines while hawking untested supplements, fearmongers attacked the scientists and public health officials who had brought us out of one of the darkest hours in our nation's history, and people angered by measures taken to contain the virus claim the threat that it posed was never real to begin with. So, I guess my first question is, uh, do you remember when you first learned that a vaccine against COVID-nineteen had become available and how did you feel?

Maria Young (Witness)1:17:01 – 1:17:45

Um, when I woke up, my first question was, um, who did I get sick? Because I assumed, you know, everyone I had been near, um, had gotten sick and nobody had. But I remember laying in my hospital bed, I was kind of waking up and still going through delirium, and they had the TV on. And, um, I was watching the news and it felt really surreal because people were getting vaccinated, health care workers were starting to get vaccinated. And I just remember feeling like a little sense of relief that like nobody else will like this will stop life will go back to what it was before potentially. Um, and my family, my parents and my sister were actually able to get vaccinated the day they picked me up from the hospital. By coincidence, there was, um, availability and they also felt just a sense of relief and hope.

Sen. Blumenthal (CT)1:17:48 – 1:18:29

And, uh, you look great, if I may say. Uh, I've seen some of the pictures of how you looked when you were in the hospital and I wouldn't recognize you, uh, which attests to, I think, the quality of care that you received at Johns Hopkins. And thanks to those docs and all the specialists and the nurses and, uh, all the heroes uh, not just there, but all around the country who believe in vaccines, who believe in science. Um, how has the experience of battling for your life against COVID-19 affected, um, how you feel about vaccines?

Maria Young (Witness)1:18:32 – 1:19:03

I don't think I thought about vaccines much before. Um, we just had them. They kept us safe. They had eradicated several diseases. And then, um, afterwards it kind of was like why didn't it happen sooner, why wasn't why couldn't I have benefited from it and for a long time I thought like why me why did I get this sick and then as I learned more about covid and about all the um data that came out of it I said well why not me I was forty one I was healthy I didn't have pre-existing conditions I was the reason that we needed a vaccine

Sen. Blumenthal (CT)1:19:06 – 1:19:36

well I don't know the answer to your question why me But I do know that you are doing enormous good by being here today. And as painful as that experience was, I think we owe you, all of us owe you, a debt of gratitude for your bravery and your strength in coming here today and sharing your story. So, I wanna thank you for, for being here today. Thank you.

Sen. Johnson (WI)1:19:37 – 1:19:37

Senator Marino.

Sen. Moreno (OH)1:19:39 – 1:19:46

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And, i'll echo the uh the ranking members comments uh thank you mrs. joe for being here i assume that's your mom

Brian Dressen (Witness)1:19:46 – 1:19:47

my friend

Sen. Moreno (OH)1:19:47 – 1:20:07

friend ok well all got in trouble my wife's back there going don't ever say stuff like that but uh well i can see the pain is with you and your family and i'm sure you're you're never gonna forget what that was like and thank you for being here thank you for sharing your story i think sometimes when we have this conversation about what happened during covid and i think the ranking member said remember what it was like

Sen. Johnson (WI)1:20:01 – 1:20:01

thank you

Sen. Moreno (OH)1:20:08 – 1:22:03

and i do remember it was like and quite frankly the The government did a lot of good, I think. Certainly in your case, the vaccine helped you. But the government did tremendous things that were very, very bad. For example, in my home state of Ohio, we had a health director that recommended that we shut down schools. And those schools were shut down for eighteen months. And we know now that under eighteen, you really didn't have much of an effect from COVID, there were zero deaths in that. And yet we destroyed the lives of those kids. I think we can trace back to that day the youth violence problem that we have today. We had people that were totally disconnected, including my youngest son, who spent his senior year in college, uh, taking classes remotely. And I can tell you, you didn't learn anything. Because there was no interaction with kids. And that's a, a col- somebody senior You think about some of the important grades like ninth grade that are critical, third grade that you need that socialization skill. Eighth grade where you're gonna graduate into high school, we just robbed those kids. And Doctor Weissman, what are your thoughts just as a scientist, don't you think that there should be some idea of building confidence in our healthcare system? And that there needs to be a certain amount of humility that says, hey, maybe we don't know all the data but you certainly are you should be giving people the best data that you have and yet it seemed like it was a very one dimensional data set that said this is the only thing we're gonna tell you this is the only thing you believe and if you even questioned anything outside this data set or narrative you're just a bad human being

David Wiseman (Witness)1:22:04 – 1:23:55

yeah yeah i think i think you're absolutely right and i actually uh wanna echo senator blumenthal's comments that you know what what was it i mean it was chaos and and and for the most part everyone was trying to do a very very difficult job and a very hard job and and we and and we i think everyone would thank all the healthcare providers and and and and the people in government and so on but there were specific failures and and you know the testimony we heard was was very compelling and and as someone who's been an advocate for patients with chronic conditions that are ignored and so on uh i definitely empathize with the comments that that we that we heard the the thing that echoed with me a moment ago was that uh why me and and and the why me that happened to me that answers your question senator is that i i i hadn't thought about vaccines i had taken all the usual vaccines so have my family um i had no history with doing any work with vaccines and and for curious set of circumstances i got involved in analyzing hydroxychloroquine data which i wasn't very impressed with frankly um but but i found uh uh an error in in one of the key studies that was used to close down hydroxychloroquine and and i argued with the authors bulwark in minnesota to give me the data that that was missing that i discovered was missing they gave me the data and those data showed when you plug them in that there was actually a an effect of hydroxychloroquine that was one of the two studies that closed down hydroxychloroquine when i tried to get that published in the new england journal of medicine in january twenty twenty one when thousands of people were dying as senator blumenthal correctly uh described ok the the response that i got from the new england journal medicine was well we don't think this is gonna be of very much interest to anyone of our readers and at that point i said there's a really big problem here so yes

Sen. Moreno (OH)1:23:54 – 1:24:01

because because because again there was a narrative and if you even questioned this narrative you were somehow a bad human being

David Wiseman (Witness)1:23:59 – 1:24:01

right and i was

Sen. Moreno (OH)1:24:01 – 1:24:58

that but but that's let's remind also what happened you had a scenario where uh we have a lot of people on the other side of the aisle that like to say president trump's President Trump hasn't threatened to fire employees for companies or military members who refuse to have sovereignty over their bodies. Under under Biden, nine thousand members of the military were dismissed because they refused to put an experimental vaccine into their bodies. I mean, how does, how did we get to that place, uh, Dr. Weissman? How did we get to the place where i can decide for myself what i put into my own body and if that means i wanna take the vaccine then good for you but if i decide not to i lose my ability to make a living especially people who put on a uniform to defend this country, how is that possible

David Wiseman (Witness)1:24:59 – 1:26:17

what well i mean as a as a scientist and also a pharmacist uh uh you know looking at looking at what the law says not as a lawyer let the lawyers figure out the legal aspects of it but as a scientist as a as a pharmacist the the the ua requirement required the secretary of the hhs to make sure there are adequate systems to to to detect and monitor uh safety and to inform doctors and the patients who are receiving the vaccines of known and potential risks so that they could make that sort of informed informed consent about what to put in their body and and according to the findings of of senator johnson and his staff they were effectively deprived of that because because the safety systems that were designed and advertised as as as uh you you know detecting system detecting safety issues were not working, they were not working, the early warning system was turned off and the problem still exists going forward for all vaccines. We want vaccine confidence, I agree with the lady over here, we want confidence in vaccines, but but based on um uh doctor shafman's comment uh paper and other papers, going forward there's a problem with with with using these systems unless they are corrected, so we have to have humility senator, you're absolutely right. we have to have the ability that people have all the right decisions, all the right information to make the decisions, so they can do exactly what you've described.

Sen. Moreno (OH)1:26:17 – 1:27:16

and isn't it OK just to say, hey look this is a tough time, it's tough history of the country, we had a lot of horrible situations going on, and we made mistakes, and just acknowledge that there's mistakes. In my mind, that makes it easier for us to respond to a future pandemic, if the government has humility and transparency to say, we really really, really screwed up, uh, uh, Dr. Jablonowski, you must have a good email address, probably the only one there, but, um, the briefly talk about what was the effect that somebody like Doctor Amy Acton in Ohio, recommending schools to be closed, forcing children to be vaccinated, and by the way, bribing kids to get vaccinated by giving them money. So the, the state of Ohio is giving kids money and rewards, if they got vaccinated, what's the long-term effects you think of a policy like that? On children, which I know you care a lot about.

Karl Jablonowski (Witness)1:27:17 – 1:29:09

There are many long-term effects, uh certainly social and educational, but the one that sticks out to me the most is the lesson that we are teaching the next generation. Um, bodily autonomy, as you pointed out, it's it's our basic unit of liberty. If I honestly unfortunately believe we live in a country that we could not have founded. because we do not believe we have a bodily autonomy. If we did on September ninth, twenty twenty one, when Joe Biden, you know, threatened us all with our patience is wearing thin, stated the obvious that this is not about freedom or personal choice, declared the vaccines to be safe, and described a pandemic of the unvaccinated, he wouldn't have been in office in the next day. But he is. He was. Um, and and on your point of of humility of the situation, I think that is the perfect word, because the then secretary of HHS could have changed history with one word. He could have summoned the greatest army of statisticians and mathematicians and data scientists ever assembled under one topic with one word. That word was help. Please help. You know, the we launched a pathetically tested vaccine onto the population. And our only reporting system was over barren by the number of reports. We can't actually use the system. Please help. Or the expert at the FDA is working with the expert in the world, describing that our system isn't work describing that our system isn't working, has a better situation system. But we don't like their answers. Please help. It would have saved a lot.

Sen. Hawley (MO)1:29:10 – 1:29:10

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

David Wiseman (Witness)1:29:10 – 1:29:10

Under Holly.

Sen. Hawley (MO)1:29:13 – 1:30:15

Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Thanks to all of the witnesses for being here. Doctor Wiseman, if I could just start with you. It seems pretty clear to me, based on the testimony that we've heard today, based on the investigation that this committee has done and what we've learned over the last few years that what we saw during COVID wasn't so much a public health campaign as it was a profit machine. A profit machine for the big pharma companies who made and billions of dollars off of a vaccine that they did not adequately test, about which they did not adequately adequately disclose health risks. They they made out like bandits, though. I mean, this is great for them. All of the public health problems get offloaded onto other people, namely the American people. All of the costs get borne by the patients. They don't have to do anything, and they get rich off of it. I mean, let me just ask you, in your professional opinion, did these companies like Pfizer and Moderna, did they adequately disclose study and disclose any of the risks that were associated with these vaccines before they were forced upon the public.

David Wiseman (Witness)1:30:17 – 1:32:15

Um, well, I think there was a lot of collaboration, and it was it was stated openly there the the the the the the government, the FTA, the CDC were working very closely with the with the drug companies. So this wasn't a normal sort of uh development of of drugs that we see i in in history. So so a lot of the stuff that that the that the companies um were sort of got away with it as it were was with with the with the with the consent of fda who who overly overly gener who generously interpreted um regulations concerning certain types of testing genotoxicity or lipid nanoparticle testing or biodistribution or whatever it is and in in in one of the attachments in my testimony there's two hundred and forty eight questions that detail that uh very specifically so so uh while you you know the drug company is ultimately irresponsible for their product. Um, you know, maybe they should have taken the the the the view of, well, even even if the government says we can get away with it, we're not going to. Um, so so there was clearly things that they knew and and they and they overly, overly generous, over generously interpreted uh uh cancer studies, genotoxicity studies, biodistribution studies. Uh and and and the particular case of of of Pfizer, uh there was the very egregious nondisclosure of a particular sequence in the um uh that was used to manufacture the the uh the product uh of of a particular sequences that that derive from an sv forty virus. It wasn't the whole virus, there were particular sequences in that there, but they would that but they specifically in FOIA requests that we've had from uh different countries, the the uh uh the Pfizer chose not to disclose those sequences, a very significant um uh uh I I think abuse of public trust, given that they will have this sweetheart of a deal, the the the the the all the marketing was done for them by by the government, uh uh that that is a particularly egregious um uh example.

Sen. Hawley (MO)1:32:15 – 1:32:31

Let me let me just ask you if you've encountered other instances where adverse event data was downplayed or disregarded or even outright concealed by either the manufacturers or public health authorities in a way that had the effect of protecting corporate interests over patient safety.

David Wiseman (Witness)1:32:32 – 1:32:33

You mean outside of COVID?

Sen. Hawley (MO)1:32:34 – 1:32:39

No, in in the covid context, I mean, are it c- it c- you've named a couple, are there are there others that we should be aware of?

David Wiseman (Witness)1:32:41 – 1:33:15

Um, w- I mean, I think everything i- i- it's altered, what the question is, even though we've been discussing the Bayesian data mining that the FDA conducted, we don't know what the, what what systems the the Pfizer and Moderna were using, they had a, they also have a responsibility for pharmacovigilance. So I think a valid question is to ask, you know, what were they finding, what systems were they using, were they adequately uh uh uh uh understanding of the the limitations of those systems and and and to what extent um were they reporting them to the to the government so i can't give you more specific examples than what we've already seen.

Sen. Hawley (MO)1:33:15 – 1:33:33

what uh what would reforms would you recommend congress pursue to ensure that this sort of future public health emergency uh that in cases like this that we saw in covid that pharmaceutical companies private companies are held accountable for adverse events they're not they're not getting the sweetheart deal that you've been describing.

David Wiseman (Witness)1:33:35 – 1:35:03

Well, I think I think I think there has to be a a greater separation between the the government and and and and the pharmaceutical companies understanding that there was a it was an emergency situation there had to be an element of of collaboration so so there there is there is there is something there, but there has to be some separation. But going forward um specifically for for for the in the subject matter of what we're discussing today there are some major reforms of theirs that have to take place uh in terms of making sure the data is is properly collected, there's a person albert benavides who's done a great uh job at uh documenting that uh the the the uh uh companies should be required to be using the the modified bayesian methods uh the prr methods should also be used uh with with with with caveats uh and and there has to be adequate oversight of of exactly how these signals are be are gonna be um implemented or understood the vst there was also a uh actually to your earlier question um again this was a vst issue they actually had seen signals for uh myocard uh myocardial infarction and venous thromboembolism in may of twenty twenty two but they didn't report them in the public domain till about a year later so that was a concealment but again that was on the part of the of the v s d program not specifically the manufacturers so there's a whole slew of things that have to have have to happen in terms of how we analyze data uh the senator mentioned uh divide making sure that we actually get rates of um of adverse events that are

Sen. Hawley (MO)1:35:30 – 1:35:31

Hmm.

David Wiseman (Witness)1:35:30 – 1:36:03

So so so clearly there's got to be something, it. government that says we've got to look at these things and take people seriously. And someone like Anna Schaffman and Dr. Mouchel, who are the father and mother of these methods, were being ignored. These weren't just any people. These were the far, this was the father and the mother, if as it were, of these methods, they need to be listened to and not marginalised, not being told to cease and desist. Uh, you know, we don't want, we don't want, we don't wanna know what you've gotta say. I think that's terrible. And and and and and we need to understand what processes happened to, to, to, to make that situation.

Sen. Hawley (MO)1:36:04 – 1:37:07

You know, I think that the the government working with private companies in the midst of a health crisis is one thing, collaboration is one thing, but systematically concealing from the public the true risks involved with this vaccine in a way that not only misled patients, that not only misled parents, that not only endanger the lives of children, but had the net effect of lining the pockets of the biggest pharma companies in the world, that is a disgrace. That is an Absolute disgrace. And I just think, Mister Chairman, that that is what we have gotta learn from this crisis. There there somebody did profit off of it. You know, I mean, we talk about how COVID n- COVID was good for nobody. Not quite true. It was very good for a handful of pharma companies who got the sweetheart deal with the government, who made billions of dollars off of it, and as usual got to offload all of their potential liability onto somebody else and walk away from it. And now they are sitting pretty and the patients are told, sorry, you know, oh, we we lied to you. Sorry. at least the company's got rich. We've gotta change this so this never happens again.

David Wiseman (Witness)1:37:06 – 1:37:25

They they they they have responsibility, a moral responsibility in my opinion, even whatever the government says, you know, they have to go beyond beyond the the the letter and say, OK, you know, we we think there's an a problem here, we have to look at our prob- our product honestly and say, OK, you know, we have to disclose all the risks, even though even though the FDA allows us to say certain things.

Sen. Johnson (WI)1:37:26 – 1:37:26

S- so

David Wiseman (Witness)1:37:26 – 1:37:27

Um, sorry.

Sen. Johnson (WI)1:37:27 – 1:37:51

S- Senator Hall, there there's I think it's an Oxfam study that shows trillions of dollars transfer to, not just pharma, But the big box stores, it was all the little guys who got shut down, the big guys did did phenomenally well. But I I do want uh, Doctor Jablonski to answer your question in terms of, cuz he, I think he missed his opening testimony, he listed all of this tests that they did not do in the approval process. Can you quick uh, r- read that list again?

Karl Jablonowski (Witness)1:37:55 – 1:38:12

Certainly. It was um, there were pre-EUA, there were no tests done on drug-drug interactions, cardiovascular toxin, central nervous system toxicity, other organ toxicity, blood toxicity, genotoxicity, or carcinogenicity.

Sen. Johnson (WI)1:38:13 – 1:38:13

So

Karl Jablonowski (Witness)1:38:13 – 1:38:15

And I then went on to say, had they actually

Sen. Johnson (WI)1:38:14 – 1:39:16

Then they then they then they hid all kinds of things. And by the way, if you really if you really wanna know the abuse, talk to Brie Jafferson, talk to Stephane, Mandy DeGerry, who actually participated in the trials, AstraZeneca and Pfizer, and how they were completely abandoned. Mandy DeGerry, I think at the time maybe twelve to thirteen year old little girl, she couldn't walk. wheelchair. She had to have a feeding tube. She could In the report from Pfizer, they listed that as a stomach ache. Breed Dressin, who has amassed hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical sp- bills, asked for, I think, sent her a check for thirteen hundred bucks, something like that, and that settles it. So no, no, they they were they were abandoned by the companies that they participate in the trials in, OK? And then they were abandoned by The officials of the FDA who treated them acknowledged that they were vaccine injured, and then never told the public about it. So we we've got a real big problem in this country about vaccine injury deniers.

Karl Jablonowski (Witness)1:39:17 – 1:39:18

Yeah, I thought so.

Sen. Johnson (WI)1:39:17 – 1:40:29

OK, we again, these vaccine injuries are real. But it's being denied. I mean, you know, b- mister science himself, you know, accused a lot of people of being science deniers. I'll accuse people being vaccine injured deniers. And, you know, s- the study, these, you know, I've I've got a point to start, we're gonna start this. Put up number eight. Here is a, the I have this chart for my November twenty first and Dr. Weissman you might actually been at this uh public event with the vaccine injured. And this the the blue lines are the number of c the new p cases per day. And so you can see this is December twenty twenty, right there. When the when the vaccine was approved and started being administered, you see the number of cases pretty well peaked. late twenty twenty, early twenty twenty one, and start coming all the way down. The orange line is the uptake, the percentage of of the Americans who were vaccinated with the COVID injection. Now, if it was effective, if it really would have worked, you'd think that the number of cases would just tailed off. But that's not what happened. So at a previous hearing, put put up a number four.

Sen. Blumenthal (CT)1:40:29 – 1:40:30

I'm gonna have to do this.

Sen. Johnson (WI)1:40:30 – 1:40:47

OK, well, if you just two seconds, at previous hearing you put up a No, not that one. You put up a study from Commonwealth Fund saying that the vaccines save three point two million lives. So I'm just gonna again, just my simple math just prove how incredibly farcical that is. So if if you just take a look at

Sen. Blumenthal (CT)1:40:47 – 1:40:52

I don't I don't know any simple math. It's all seem complex, complex to me.

Sen. Johnson (WI)1:40:50 – 1:42:50

Oh, th- th- oh, this is a this this is this is just a this is simple addition. So if you take a look at actual deaths up to the pandemic, two thousand nineteen, about two point eight million deaths. Now if you just grow that, and of course population is growing or aging, so it's c- growing compound annual growth rate little bit little under one percent a year. By about twenty twenty four, we'd have about three point one million deaths. We projected about two point nine for the pandemic year. Let's take a look at what actually happened. So the year pandemic, we went from two point two point nine million deaths to three point four. You know, obviously something's happening, you know, people like uh Miss Young suffered the result, half a million Americans died. Now, the vaccine came on board in twenty twenty one. You would think again if we're we pretty well, I hate to use the word called the herd, but I mean the most vulnerable people died in twenty twenty. So by twenty twenty one, the year the vaccine, you would expect if it was that effective, that number, if you would have been saving three point two million lives, by the way, just that's in twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two. You'd think that number would have come down. No, it went up to three point five million deaths. Twenty twenty two, came down a little bit to three point three. So let's put up the last one. Now i in order in order to make the claim that three point two million lives were saved in twenty one and twenty twenty two you would have had to assume that once the vaccine came on board we were really expecting five million deaths in both twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two so that commonwealth fund is that study that mathematical model kinda like the the Veyer's algorithm. It's complete bunk. It's complete, complete BS. The vaccine did not save three point two million lives in America. What it what it did do is it had some serious adverse events to the tune of about one point seven million currently on various thirty nine million or thirty nine thousand worldwide and we know it dramatically understates what that number was.

Sen. Blumenthal (CT)1:42:50 – 1:43:00

Mr. Chairman, can I ask you a quick question? Uh, Ms. Young, you've sat through all this stuff. Uh, if you had it to do over again, Would have got would you have gotten the vaccine?

Maria Young (Witness)1:43:02 – 1:43:03

Oh, yeah, without question.

Sen. Blumenthal (CT)1:43:04 – 1:43:18

You would have gotten it. Even knowing that there were. Potential. Adverse. And side effects which. Frankly, there are with any kind of medicine. These days. Uh, you still would have gotten the vaccine.

Maria Young (Witness)1:43:18 – 1:43:29

Yeah, and that's kind of how I think about it. Anything we take, medicine, vitamins, like everything comes with a risk. It was a measured risk at the time. Um, and yeah, I don't regret my decision at all.

Sen. Blumenthal (CT)1:43:30 – 1:43:35

Thank you. Thank you, Mister Chairman, and again to Miss Young, thank you for being here today.

Sen. Johnson (WI)1:43:35 – 1:43:36

OK.

Sen. Blumenthal (CT)1:43:36 – 1:43:50

I apologize to the witnesses and Mister Chairman, I have a hearing of the Veterans Affairs Committee. Our our world is many obligations at the same time, so I do apologize that I can't be here for the rest of the day.

Sen. Johnson (WI)1:43:49 – 1:45:21

OK, I appreciate that. Um, so In my letter to Secretary Kennedy of uh December fifteenth uh point number ten, I point out a Rasmussen study. Uh, again this is a poll of all the American people that show that twenty eight percent of the American public believe they personally knew somebody whose death may have been caused by the COVID injection. Twenty eight percent. That same poll said that about forty eight percent of Americans agree that that there are legitimate reasons to be concerned about the safety of the COVID-nineteen vaccines. Again, doesn't prove causation, but this is what people experienced in the American public. This is what they saw. Now, you know, Peter Marks and everybody else saying safe and effective, but what the the the public saw, and I saw this with people I knew, very serious side effects, including one person I think died. Now, a lot of people didn't wanna admit it. They're the loved ones who encouraged them to get that shot, didn't wanna admit that maybe that's what killed them. I never asked the question. I always had the suspicion with like twenty eight percent of the other American population. Doctor Jablonski, you talked about V safe. Talk a little bit about what it showed and what it didn't show. I mean, the what it was trying to track. And again, it I mean, the the the adverse events, as you said in your testimony, the things that nobody really cared that

Karl Jablonowski (Witness)1:45:28 – 1:46:18

Right. So the the VSAI system w was designed to actually pick up subclinical findings, um, which in theory would be good. It, because the VSD, what most peop- what, uh, most of the, uh, health institutions rely on are only, um, what is presented clinically. However, In all honesty, the COVID-19 vaccine rollout was a freight train going a hundred miles per hour and nothing was going to stop it. Now, V safe was designed to ask ten questions that nobody cared about, that was never gonna stop this. If all ten million people had checked all ten boxes every time they were prompted, I still do not think it would have made a lick of difference.

Sen. Johnson (WI)1:46:18 – 1:46:21

But but I I also asked you to determine, did you seek medical

Karl Jablonowski (Witness)1:46:23 – 1:46:24

That is correct.

Sen. Johnson (WI)1:46:23 – 1:46:36

And and seven point seven percent of the people of the ten million people sought medical care after their injection. Now, is that unusually high for any medication or any vaccine?

Karl Jablonowski (Witness)1:46:37 – 1:46:42

That seems awfully unusually high. Um, the number of skipped work days, I believe was

Sen. Johnson (WI)1:46:42 – 1:46:43

Twenty five percent.

Karl Jablonowski (Witness)1:46:44 – 1:46:46

also unbelievably high.

Sen. Johnson (WI)1:46:48 – 1:47:19

Doctor Wiseman, uh, you know, one of the things that is not widely publicized, Certainly the Pfizer. Might have been true the Moderna as well, but I know I know the Pfizer uh got the emergency use authorization based on a certain process, very low batch process, process number one. But that's not what the American people or the world got, is it? You want you wanna describe the potential problems of uh them switching the process, just you know, regulatorily in terms of that's probably not what should happen,

Karl Jablonowski (Witness)1:47:19 – 1:47:19

Right.

Sen. Johnson (WI)1:47:19 – 1:47:25

but also the danger of uh that that new process. you know,

David Wiseman (Witness)1:47:24 – 1:47:25

yeah so so

Sen. Johnson (WI)1:47:25 – 1:47:33

particularly when we know that uh people like kevin mckiernan are talking about uh massive amounts of dna above and beyond the acceptable limits.

David Wiseman (Witness)1:47:34 – 1:50:30

ok so um in general any any time in any uh medical pharmaceutical product uh, if a manufacturer changes the manufacturing process uh, it it triggers uh a very very uh careful review of of does this change the safety and efficacy of the product. ok, that's the that's the general principle uh that that that that that everyone knows. Um the the uh the the material that was used by Pfizer uh the so-called process one material, uh the the RNA was made in a certain way using a using a cert using a certain method. Um and only once the vaccine was was was authorized in December of twenty twenty one, or just slightly before then, they introduced the the what would be the process two, which was gonna be using um a bacteria with these things called plasma. and and and it turns out there's also these sc forty sequences but they were using the the similar process that moderna was using uh all the time um and and there was supposed to been a a a a comparative comparative study done with the with two hundred and fifty patients to to show the the the new material was was acting the same way as the old material that actually wasn't done even though it was it was slated to be done so that's a huge that's a huge issue uh and and by switching uh i think the processes in it introduced different risks, uh and different profiles into the into the product that hadn't been properly um, uh studied. Uh and and uh fda allowed pfizer to slide and not even do that comparison study. There was actually a process three. And the process three was about in uh end of twenty twenty one, where pfizer changed the the diluent the the the the liquid vehicle that the the vaccine was carried in, uh from from one uh solution to another kind of solution which again wasn't properly um characterized uh and that was really called process three so so what was in the clinical studies even though there was lots of problems with the clinical studies as well which that's a different problem um uh the the the the public did not get the product that that was the part of the clinical studies in in the case of moderna there were also some changes that happened to do with uh certain uh uh uh rna sequences that were were in were in the product uh again the the there were questions that ema particularly the europeans were very careful in asking questions to pfizer and moderna about different aspects of their process they asked good questions and this is work that i did with doctor maria gucci um they asked good questions we went through those documents extensively and then they then they got some kind of very perfunctory answer and it seems like they were sort of told to you know lie down and and and and not do anything more so so on multiple occasions uh in both companies uh there was there were lots of irregularities as to um what the questions were being asked about the manufacturing that weren't weren't being properly answered.

Sen. Johnson (WI)1:50:31 – 1:51:18

Doctor Zblonsky, uh it kind of speaks to another problem you have is when you have no product liability. You know, all the effort goes into getting a drug or a vaccine approved, but because you have no liability, once it's approved, There's not a whole lot of effort on anybody's part, right, I mean, the regulators who have proved it, they don't wanna be proven wrong. The the vaccine manufacturers, they're certainly not gonna be, you know, raise their hand go, oh by the way, we we better pull this thing cuz we're seeing all kinds of problems. You you've seen that with childhood vaccines as well. Do you wanna just kind of describe that problem of, you know, lack of liability uh for for these products and and what that produces from a standpoint of post licensure behavior?

Karl Jablonowski (Witness)1:51:19 – 1:51:57

yeah i think that if there was no product liability for automobiles we'd still be driving around in model t's um there there is no development there's no pressure to develop a better and safer and in fact there is a disincentive for them to look it it it's actually a violation of the fiduciary duty to their shareholders if they actually look at their own product and find a problem And so we are left powerless over this system that cannot be corrected by capitalistic forces, if there is a liability shield. We just can't be.

Sen. Johnson (WI)1:51:57 – 1:54:58

So, so the vaccines got the emergency use authorization different times. They they were licensed at about August of twenty twenty one. Um, again, I I I was looking at VAERS early on, I remember a a conversation I had with Francis Collins uh end of April, when there's about twenty nine hundred deaths reporting on VAERS, Forty six percent of those. Cuz we administering to elderly, the, you know, frailer individuals. Um. Forty six percent of the deaths were occurring on the day of vaccination or within one or two days and I asked Dr. Collins about that as well as Senator, we we've identified six cases where we've uh proved causation between the Johnson Johnson vaccine and and women of child bearing age. So in terms the other twenty nine hundred, you know, Senator, people die. So, I'll close out with the, you know, that thought in terms of the incentives, or the lack of incentives, for the companies, the regulators who approve these things, to, to rigorously follow them for safety problems. Because they don't wanna admit they were wrong in approving them in the first place. They don't wanna admit that shots or injections that they were doing videos on Uh, telling everybody you have to get uh, you know, that's why God gave you two arms, you know, shot in a booster in each arm. I mean, th- nobody that pushed these things wants to admit they are wrong. The the advice they gave might have resulted in somebody's death or permanent disability. That that's what we're faced with. That's why we have this massive vaccine injury and injection injury denying going on in this country. And I can tell you from my standpoint, I'm not giving up. I'm I'm not caving to the vaccine deniers. I'm not caving to the the ridicule and Uh, I think my next hearing on this will probably bring in the injection injured. Now that we have this report. And again, look at the timing of this. Peter Marks was made aware of this in March of twenty twenty one, the same time the NIH was treating people and they were admitting these people were injured by the COVID injection. They were promised that they would be studied, that would be made public, their injuries would be made public. And here we are, end of April, twenty twenty six, that hasn't happened. I'm on a mission to make sure that happens. So again, I I wanna thank all the witnesses, again, Miss Young, I appreciate the fact you're here, I really encourage you, if if you'll allow me, I will put you in connection with the with the brand dress and and and their it's you're gonna be dealing with the same issues, OK? You you haven't you haven't been seen, you haven't been heard, nor have they. I I think it it could really be a a a good conversation. OK, wonderful, we'll we'll do that. Um, but the record for this hearing will remain open for fifteen days until five PM on Thursday March fourteenth twenty twenty six for the submission of the statements and questions to the record this hearing is adjourned.

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