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Hearings to examine pending nominations.

Thursday, July 16, 2026

Summary

  • Douglas Mastriano (Nominee to be U.S. Ambassador to the Slovak Republic, U.S. Department of State) faced bipartisan scrutiny but received no vote during nominations hearing.
  • Donald Blome (Nominee to be Assistant Secretary of State (Near Eastern Affairs), U.S. Department of State) pledged maximum pressure on Iran and expansion of Abraham Accords normalization agreements.
  • Tim Kaine pressed Mastriano on accepting Joe Biden's 2020 election victory and his actions at the Capitol on January 6, 2021.
  • David McCormick praised Mastriano's Army service and NATO expertise while Jacky Rosen questioned his fitness to represent all Americans in Slovakia.
  • If confirmed, nominees will shape US policy toward Slovakia energy security, Brazil trade, Cambodia scam networks, Gambia democracy and Middle East diplomacy.

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Sen. McCormick (PA)17:07 – 17:32

Good morning. This hearing of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee will come to order, and I wanna thank you all for being here today and I wanna thank all of you that have uh put yourself forward to serve our country thank you for your, thank you for your service and uh willingness to serve and thank you to your families. Uh just some ground rules. As we begin the hearing today, this is the long tradition in this committee, has a zero tolerance policy on any disruptions whatsoever dis-

Laurence Socha (Witness)17:31 – 17:33

What about disruptions from senators?

Sen. McCormick (PA)17:33 – 17:33

That,

Sen. Daines (MT)17:33 – 17:33

No.

Sen. McCormick (PA)17:33 – 21:31

now that includes, includes, eh, particularly senators from New Jersey. If anyone does choose to interrupt those proceedings, you will be removed promptly and you'll be barred from attending any committee hearings for the next twelve months. I appreciate all of you understanding that, and I look forward to a great hearing. Today the committee will consider the nomination of Donald Blom to be Assistant Secretary of the State for Near Eastern Affairs. Christopher Anderson to be US Ambassador to the Kingdom of Cambodia. Douglas Mastriano to be US Ambassador to the Slovak Republic. Daniel Perez to be US Ambassador to the Feder- Federative Republic of Brazil. And Lawrence Socha to be US Ambassador to the Republic of Gambia. I know some of my colleagues have introductions to make, and I would like to begin by introducing uh Doug Mastriano to serve as Ambassador to the United States of America to the Slovak Republic. I'll do that briefly and then turn to my colleague, Senator Daines, for uh his introduction. I could not introduce Doug without first mentioning his wife, Rebecca, known to be, known by family and friends as Rebbe, who joins him here today. Uh, Doug and Rebbe met as students at Eastern University near Philadelphia, where Rebbe worked as Doug's camp, on Doug's campaign for class vice president. Let be that began with late nights at the campus snack bar and painting the school's famous graffiti graffiti rock, only to be chased by a determined swan. A campaign partnership became a lifelong love story. Through twelve moves, nearly twelve years overseas, multiple combat deployments, she served our nation alongside him. So thank you, Rebbe. I'm so glad you're here. Uh, and thank you for once again, uh, taking the call to service. It's also a privilege to introduce Doug, not just as a highly qualified nominee, but as a fellow Pennsylvanian and a member of the Pennsylvania State Senate, a fellow army officer who's dedicated his career to serving this country. In the army, he patrolled the East German and Czech borders during the final years of the Cold War. During Operation Desert Storm, our paths crossed on the battlefield. I served with the eighty second Airborne Division, while Doug served with the second Armored Cavalry Division. Following the regiment's fight at the Battle of Seventy-three Easting Doug's regiment advanced to the Euphrates, where it was relieved by elements of my unit. I know that Doug understands the sacrifices required of our military families and the importance of capable allies. Following the attacks of September eleventh, Doug served as a planner for Operation Iraqi Freedom and he helped build the coalition that supported the mission from Europe. He spent four years in Brussels where he led multinational intel coordination, operational planning, and strategic assessments across Europe and Turkey. Rising to the rank of colonel, he bravely deployed three times to Afghanistan, serving as director of NATO's joint intelligence center, leading personnel from eighteen nations. In addition to his service on the battlefield, Doug is a man of letters. He concluded his army career as a professor of strategic studies at the US Army War College where he taught strategy and national security, to the next generation of senior military leaders. He holds a PHD, four master's degrees, and is author of several award-winning books on military history and leadership. Since two thousand nineteen, Doug's represented the people of Pennsylvania in the thirty-third senatorial district in in the Pennsylvania Senate. And he's built a reputation for supporting veterans, first responders, public safety and strong communities. Now the Slovak Republic is an important NATO ally located at the strategic crossroads of Central Europe. And at a time when that alliance faces significant security challenges, an alliance I strongly support, this position needs a leader with strategic judgment, intimate knowledge of NATO's inner workings and first-hand experience working alongside our allies with an unwavering commitment to advancing America's interest. Doug brings that experience and I'm confident he'll represent the United States with great professionalism and integrity. I strongly support his nomination and I earn, urge my fellow members of the committee to support him, support this good man for this important position. So thank you, uh, Senator, for for your willingness to serve, and let me at this point turn uh turn to my friend, Senator Daines, for his introduction of Mister Anderson.

Sen. Daines (MT)21:32 – 25:09

Mr. Chairman, thank you. Today I truly have the honor of introducing Christopher Anderson, President Trump's nominee for Ambassador to Cambodia. He hails from Barron, Wisconsin. A small town with a population of three thousand, where I'm told there are more turkeys than people. And Chris is a lot of things. He is the husband to uh Jen sitting right behind him and father of Charlotte, the thirteen month old beautiful little girl in that beautiful little dress. But he's also um my National Security Advisor on my team. He has served in my office for over four years, where he's led on all things related to foreign policy, defense, intelligence, Cybersecurity, Export Control, Sanctions and Veterans Affairs. Chris's long career in national security began in February two thousand nine, when following graduation from the University of Wisconsin La Crosse with a degree in economics he decided to enlist in the army. He deployed to Afghanistan where he conducted route clearance and led men in combat environment. Following his service in uniform, Chris moved to Washington DC where he got his first job here in the senate. working for my colleague and his home state Senator Ron Johnson. After two years with Senator Johnson, Chris moved over to Senator Bill Cassidy's, military legislative assistant, where he worked there for three years. Upon President Trump's election in twenty seventeen, Chris once again answered the call to serve and took a job as senior advisor to the secretary of VA, where he was responsible of the department's relationship with Congress. Chris then pursued a master's degree in project management from Penn State University. I said this specifically for the uh for the chairman's benefit prior to joining my team. I know the chairman now understands you're an intelligent man going to Penn State. China has extensive experience dealing with foreign governments, negotiating agreements, advancing legislation, and managing personnel. He's been one of my most trusted advisors during a tumultuous period in world history providing steady insightful advice that has informed much of the work I have done, including here on this committee. He's traveled extensively across the Indo-Pacific, understands the core issues facing US interests in the region. He sits before us today as an Army veteran, a seasoned foreign relations expert who has a decade of experience working with foreign governments, a committed professional who has spent the last seventeen years working on the front lines of US national security. Chris embodies truly the best of American public service, answering the call time and time again, who will serve in this position with honor, with integrity and determination. His vast experience and dogged commitment to American interests make him uniquely qualified to serve in this ambassador post. I spent a number of hours with Secretary Rubio on Monday as we were traveling from Montana back to Washington, D. C. I spoke about Chris to the secretary, and he specifically said the important role that he will play in Cambodia, a very strategic part of our geography at the moment with a lot of uh needs for the right kind of leader there on the ground. I'm certain our country will be safer, more secure, and more prosperous with him in Cambodia, and we're gonna miss having him in my office. But I know uh my team is incredibly proud as I am and excited about Chris's next chapter. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Sen. McCormick (PA)25:10 – 25:13

Thank you, Senator, uh now next up Senator Scott to introduce Mister Perez.

Sen. Scott (FL)25:14 – 27:18

Great. Thank you. Today I'm honored to introduce to all of you to Daniel Anthony Perez, a very good friend of mine, a resident of our great state of Florida and President Trump's nominee to be the US Ambassador to the Federal Republic of Brazil. Danny, his beautiful wife Stephanie, and their young children are residents of are here. Nice to see you. Residents of Miami-Dade County, one of Florida's most vibrant regions. and international melting pot, our nation's gateway to South America. Like many in the Miami-Dade, Danny is an American citizen of Cuban descent. He graduated from Christopher Columbus High School, a highly regarded all boys Catholic school. He earned his bachelor's degree from Florida State University, and his law degree from University of New Orleans College of Law. In twenty seventeen, Danny won a special election to fill a vacant seat in the Florida legislature. For the last two years, he's had the opportunity to be the Florida Speaker of the House. He's served a consequential term as speaker. I have never seen a Florida House speaker build deeper relationships with his members or do more to empower the people he leads. The unwavering loyalty of his House members is a testament to Speaker Perez's integrity and character. Danny has been passionate about several issues over the years, ranging from higher education to helping the development of disabled. But I've been most impressed with how Danny has changed the physical conversation in Tallahassee. In the year since my time as governor ended, the budget of the state of Florida has grown at an alarming rate. Danny was the first major leader in Tallahassee to say enough is enough and assist on fiscal discipline. I've known Danny for many years. Danny is committed to doing a good job in everything he does. Let me close by sharing the man I come to know. Danny listens when people talk. He he is always excited to meet new people and learn new things. He never allows himself to be outworked and he strives every day to do right for his family, for his community and for his state. Brazil is an incredibly important and strategic nation, economically and geographically, and I know Danny will do a great job and go above and beyond to make everyone on this committee in this country proud of his service as a US ambassador. I fully encourage all my colleagues to favorably report him.

Sen. McCormick (PA)27:21 – 30:55

Thank you, Senator Scott. Before we turn to my colleague, Senator Rosen, for her opening remarks, I'd like to just begin it by again thanking all of our nominees and their families for your willingness to serve the United States. in these important roles at this very challenging moment. From Washington to posts around the world, your work will be central to advancing America's priorities, strengthening our partnerships, and entering ensuring US diplomacy produces results for the American people. Mister Blom, since Hamas's brutal terror attack against Israel on October twenty twenty three, the Middle East and North Africa region have undergone profound change. Iran and its network of terrorist proxies has been significantly weakened, and from Syria to Lebanon I now see a region full of unprecedented opportunities. But these opportunities also come with risk. As Assistant Secretary for Near Eastern Affairs, you will play a critical role in helping this min- administration navigate this complex and rapidly evolving landscape. I'm hopeful that you in tandem with our key regional partners can really help build a safer, more stable, more prosperous North Africa and Middle East while ensuring American national security interests remain at the very forefront of policies toward that region. Mister Anderson, our relationship with Cambodia is a challenging one, but I'm confident that if you're confirmed you will be up to the task of managing our expanding ties with the kingdom of Cambodia, while ensuring that we push back on China's growing malign influence. I'm curious to hear your views on how the US can leverage new security and foreign assistance tools to promote lasting peace between Thailand and Cambodia secure our interest in counter Chinese malign influence. Mister Mastriano, uh US-Slovakia cooperation is essential in advancing energy security and economic prosperity in the region. As Slovakia and its neighbors turn away from Russian energy, the US is poised, Pennsylvania is poised, to be a lead partner on LNG and nuclear power, especially in the field of SMR technology, which Slovakia aims to adopt from the United States. The US must work with Slovakia to strengthen NATO's collective defense, on the eastern flank. And as war rages across Slovakia's border with Ukraine and Russia, continues to threaten escalation against our allies, it's critical that you reinforce the United States' strong commitment to Article five and counter Russian efforts to undermine this alliance. Mister Perez, strong and productive bilateral relationships with Brazil are of great importance to the United States. Brazil is the second largest democracy, as you know well, in the hemisphere. as a strategic economic partner, the largest economy in Latin America, and a major non-NATO ally. Last month the Trump Am- Trump administration designated two of the most violent criminal gangs in Brazil as foreign terrorist organizations. These narco-terrorists pose a direct threat to our national security and regional stability. Equally concerning is China's growing influence over strategic infrastructure in Brazil especially ports and critical mineral projects. Your ability to work with Brazil on these priorities will be key to our success. And last but not least, Mister Sosha, a career member of the Foreign Service, thank you for your service. The United States' relationship with Gambia has evolved dramatically in the past decade. The people and government of Gambia have worked to build a new future for their country while also dealing with a very painful history. I'm pleased to have our nominee for United States Ambassador to the smiling coast of Africa the Gambia with us here today. With all that said, Senator Rosen, I'm going to turn over to you for your opening remarks.

Sen. Rosen (NV)30:56 – 36:04

Well, thank you, Mister Chairman. Good morning, everyone. And I wanna thank you, all the nominees, for your willingness to serve our country, um that you have served and that you're willing to go forward. I also wanna thank your families, wherever they are, and I know some of them are here today. We hear that beautiful baby um in the back, and we know that they're all supporting you from home. You have each been nominated at a consequential moment for American foreign policy. Our alliances are under strain. Conflicts in multiple regions continue to threaten global stability. And this administration's has created new challenges for US leadership. At the same time, the administration has significantly cut its communication with this committee, making oversight and consultation increasingly impossible. Lack of transparency has been especially evident when it comes to the Middle East. Despite repeated commitments from the State Department, including from directly from Secretary Rubio, this committee has only received sporadic engagement and limited information on critical issues impacting our national security, US national security. Just last month, Secretary Rubio told this committee that The war with Iran had ended. Since then, the president has declared the ceasefire over. Strikes have resumed. And now we are hearing that the president wants United States to serve as a guardian over the Straits of Hormuz. We are in a war with the president promising that we will police critical waterways on the other side of the world, with little to no information from the administration. Congress and the American people deserve clear, consistent communication about US objectives, our military commitments, we owe that to the men and women and their families who serve our country, and of course, our diplomatic strategy. And Blasler Blom, I'm encouraged that the administration has nominated a s distinguished career member of the senior foreign service to lead the Bureau of Near Eastern Having served in both Democrat and Republican administrations, you understand the value of diplomacy, institutional expertise, and congressional oversight. If confirmed, I hope you will prioritize regular, candid communication with Congress and provide the transparency needed as the U United States navigates increasingly volatile uh an increasing excuse me, increasingly volatile region and yet another protracted war in the Middle East. Mister Perez, Mister Anderson, and Mister Socha, I hope that we can rely on each one of you to be equally committed to open communication and consultation with Congress. Whether you're working to support democratic institutions with fewer resources managing bilateral relation relationships amid shifting trade policies or implementing peace agreements that prevent conflicts from escalating. Congress depends on those candid assessments and conversations and honest reporting from our embassies. That work is most effective when guided by facts, professional expertise, and America's interests, not politics. And finally, Mister Mastriano. I have serious concerns about your nomination. If confirmed, you would represent the United States. all Americans to the people of Salachia, an EU member state, while leading a diverse embassy team. Given your record, I have significant questions that I'll be asking about whether you can credibly fulfill that responsibility. You've denied the results of a free and fair US election. You've supported efforts to overturn those results, used campaign funds to individuals to the January sixth rally compared abortion and your own political loss to the Holocaust. You appeared in an Army War College photograph wearing a Confederate uniform and associated with known Holocaust deniers. I find it difficult to reconcile that record with the responsibility of representing our country to a close European ally founded on our shared democratic values. So I look forward to hearing from you how you represent all Americans of all faiths and of all backgrounds in a way that respects our diversity and democratic traditions. I wanna thank again all the nominees for your willingness to serve and for appearing before the committee today. I look forward to your testimony. Thank you, Mister Chairman.

Sen. McCormick (PA)36:04 – 36:12

Thank you, Senator Rosen. We will now turn uh to the nominees for their opening statements and Mr. Blum uh you begin please with your opening statement, thank you.

Donald Blome (Witness)36:14 – 38:40

Uh Chairman McCormick, Ranking Member Rosen and distinguished members of the committee, thank you for the privilege of coming before you today as the President's nominee to serve as Assistant Secretary for Near Eastern Affairs at the US Department of State. I have spent more than thirty years in the foreign service, uh much of that in the countries covered by this bureau and I am honored that President Trump nominated me for this position. If confirmed, I commit to working closely with this committee on our country's national security interests in the Near East region. I have with me today my wife, Debbie, and my children, Sarah, Nicholas and Carl. Uh, they have shared with me uh the honor of representing our country abroad through uh wars, evacuations, pandemic uh and other interesting adventures. and I want to thank them for their constant support throughout. The administration's goals for the Middle East and North Africa are clear. First, to seek real solutions to the region's enduring conflicts, including preventing Iran from developing or otherwise obtaining nuclear weapons. Second priority is promoting US economic prosperity, expanding markets for US exports, creating jobs and investment opportunities for American workers around the region. Iran is a common thread running through the region's challenges. And absent an agreement, uh if confirmed, I will continue to advance maximum international pressure on Iran, denying the regime resources and support to fund terrorism and regional aggression. But we also see opportunities. I support the administration's commitment to build on the Abraham accords and normalization agreements which is imperative for regional security, and economic integration. Uh Iraq, Syria, Lebanon all provide potentially transformative opportunities today that we must engage on. Uh we must increase US competitiveness in the region, as every major commercial, technology, infrastructure and energy project secured by an American company strengthens US influence while denying strategic opportunities to our competitors. While we must remain clear-eyed about the challenges, we must also recognize the potential for progress that advances American security, prosperity and global leadership. If confirmed, I look forward to working with you on these issues. Thank you for your time and I look forward to your questions.

Sen. McCormick (PA)38:42 – 38:44

Thank you. Uh, Mister Anderson.

Donald Blome (Witness)38:48 – 39:21

Morning. Chairman McCormick, Ranking Member Rosen, distinguished members of the committee. It's an honor to appear before you today. I am grateful for President Trump and Secretary Rubio's trust in me for, in nominating me to serve as Ambassador to the Kingdom of Cambodia. I need to start off with a big thank you to my wife, Jennifer. Uh, she is my rock, and I wouldn't be here today without her support. She is, or, shh, she was joined by my daughter, Charlotte. I was gonna make a joke about leniency on her protests, but uh, she's already been removed.

Sen. McCormick (PA)39:25 – 39:26

Yeah, I'll give her a pop-up.

Donald Blome (Witness)39:29 – 42:20

I also need to thank my parents, Craig and Ruth Anderson. Their support, investment, and encouragement has been the foundation of my personal development. It's tough to put into words how it feels to be on this side of the hearing today. As everyone in this room is very aware, I usually spend my time back against the wall, trying not to be noticed. Uh, the opportunity res- to receive this nomination and to simply testify before you today is not something that I thought I would ever be afforded. I grew up the son of a tractor salesman and a music teacher. So at no point did I ever see an an ambassador nomination in my future. Though I will say on the heels of our nation's two hundred and fiftieth birthday, it does remind me of how lucky I am to be an American. Over the last seventeen years, I have worked for three senators, President Trump's first administration, and served in the army. I have always worked to protect America's interests, both at home and abroad. If confirmed, I pledge to continue to pursue US foreign relations and national security with the devotion that you all know me for. Throughout my tenure with this institution, I have worked with most, if not all, of your offices. I have always prided myself on free-flowing and sometimes frank communication, the management of equities, and my ability to advance the mission without fanfare or publicity. If confirmed, I plan on employing all of these virtues in the service of the United States. I will advance the administration's core priorities in Cambodia with an unwavering commitment and vigor, protecting American citizens, expanding US economic opportunity, and ensuring our engagement in Southeast Asia serves the American people first. The US-Cambodia relationship is fundamentally in a stronger place than it was a few years ago, and the momentum is very real. President Trump's leadership in facilitating a cease-fire between Cambodia and Thailand opened a new chapter with Hunh Manette and his administration. It's an opportunity that the Trump administration is truly building on. With that said, I will not shy away from the challenges that remain. Continued progress in bi- the bilateral relationship depends on Cambodia taking concrete action on several fronts. My top priority? would be dismantling online scams and the criminal networks behind them. These operations have stolen tens of billions of dollars from American citizens. If confirmed, I will work with Count- Cambodian counterparts and regional partners to deliver results. Cambodia has the opportunity to be a growing partner, not a strategic vulnerability. I am ready to serve. For the respect of the committee's time, I will end my testimony there and submit the rest. Uh, for the record, Thank you for this opportunity. I look forward to your questions.

Sen. McCormick (PA)42:21 – 42:24

Thank you, Mr. Anderson. Uh, Mr. Mastriano.

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)42:25 – 46:48

Thank you, Chairman McCormick, Ranking Member Rosen, and distinguished members of the committee. As Chairman of the Pennsylvania Emergency Preparedness and Veterans Affairs Committee, it's it also feels odd being on this side of the committee, but it's an honor to be here before you today as President Trump's nominee to serve as the next United States Ambassador to the Slovak Republic. I am deeply grateful to the President for his confidence and for this committee, considering my nomination. I would like to also first like to recognize my wife, Rebbe, for nearly thirty-nine years through an army career of great sacrifice, starting off in the Cold War in the Iron Curtain, Germany, prepared to evacuate in the case of a Soviet attack where we were told my unit would last forty-five minutes patrolling the Iron Curtain twelve moves, twelve years overseas, service to the nation that I just can't describe. Uh without her love and support, I would not be here today. I'm also grateful for our son Josiah who cannot be here because he's preparing to deploy to Africa to support America's mission in the Horn of Africa. And he with his wife Maddie and our granddaughter Brooklyn, they continue our family's tradition of service which started with my dad who's committed his life to a s career in the Navy, two brothers in the United States Marine Corps, and many uncles who served beating back Nazism and militarism during World War Two. And their legacy inspired me to to be commit my life to the army. I am also pleased to be joined today by my former Legislative Director Josh Herman and members of my Senate staff my Chief of Staff Melissa Executive Assistant Emily, and Constituent Services and Grant Specials Don, Michelle and Lisa. Thank you so much for sacrificing your time to be here, taking personal time off to join and support us. Uh, Rebbe and I are grateful for you guys. For more than thirty years I had the privilege of of uh serving our nation, the United States Army. My assignments took me across Europe, the Middle East, I served side by side with coalition allied partners in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Iraq, Bosnia, Kosovo, Afghanistan, and even in some of the central Asian republics of the former Soviet Union. I worked closely with our NATO allies in porce around portions of the world and across Europe I have served in combat plan multinational operations, helped strengthen NATO's deterrence in Europe, was called upon by the chief of staff of the army to form a deterrence plan for our Baltic allies in Northern Europe. And uh much of that plan has been in place to help deter Russian aggression against our allies in Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. S I deployed on six NATO exercises to the Baltic region and built par friendships there that lasted a a lifetime. And finally, talk to you strategy at the US Army War College, Senator, thank you for putting the War College on the map this past week. And it has been an honor to wear the uniform in the service of this nation. And as I was fading away and gonna get a sweet army job, no colonel left behind job, we like to laugh and say, uh I was challenged to get into public service and not just ride off to the sunset. And it has not been easy. For thirty years I had a top secret SCI access, I was respected ac- across the United States Army, referred to as a subject matter expert. And to enter the world of politics, you're called everything but a good man. But my experiences uh in the United States Army re reinforced my belief in America leader sh- our American leadership, strong alliances and peace through strength. If confirmed, my responsibility would be clear, to faithfully implement President Trump's foreign policy, strengthen the strategic partnership between the United States and Slovakia, and advance the interests of the American people. My priorities will be straightforward. First, I will protect American citizens' interests and security. Second, I will strengthen our strategic partnership with Slovakia. by expanding defense cooperation, enhancing military readiness, and advancing our shared security objectives. Third, I will work with Slovakia to strengthen energy security by expanding cooperation in the civil nuclear energy area, reducing dependence on Russian energy, that's a big important goal there, and creating new opportunities for American technology investment and business. Slovakia is a key central and an important NATO ally at the strategic crossroads geographically of Europe. If confirmed, I will faithfully represent the President of the United States, strengthen our alliance with Slovakia, and work every day to make America safer, stronger, and more prosperous. Thank you for the honor of appearing here today. I look forward to your questions.

Sen. McCormick (PA)46:50 – 46:52

Thank you. Mister Perez?

Daniel Anthony Perez (Witness)46:56 – 49:20

Thank you. Chairman McCormick, Ranking Member Rosen, and distinguished members of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. It is an honor to appear before you today, and I am grateful for your time and your service to this nation. I am deeply honored that President Trump has nominated me to serve as the United States Ambassador to the Federated Republic of Brazil and I thank Secretary Rubio for his confidence and his friendship. Senator Scott, thank you for your generous introduction and your dedication to Florida and to this country. It is a constant source of inspiration. To my wife, my th- my three children and my parents that sit behind me, thank you for your continued support. Brazil is not simply our largest trading partner in South America. It is a country of continental scale, extraordinary na- natural wealth, and growing strategic consequence, one whose trajectory over the coming years will shape the security, prosperity and influence of the entire Western hemisphere. The stakes are high and the opportunities are real. Brazil holds vast reserves of critical minerals essential to American economic strength and national security. It sits at the center of hemispheric trade, energy and infrastructure, and it faces real security challenges, from transnational criminal organizations that fuel drug flows threatening American communities, to the expanding footprint of outside powers competing for influence across the region. How the United States engages Brazil in the years ahead will matter enormously. I bring to this role a deep belief in the power of relationships. Growing up and serving in Miami Dade, one of the most vibrant multicultural communities in the world, taught me how to listen, how to find common ground, and how to build trust across different cultures. As Speaker of the Florida House of Representatives, I learned that clarity, integrity and follow-through are the foundations of effective governance. I will bring those same principles to the embassy in Brasilia. My highest priorities, if confirmed, will be the protection of American citizens in Brazil, the advancement of our national interest in trade and investment,

Sen. McCormick (PA)49:20 – 49:21

Mm.

Daniel Anthony Perez (Witness)49:21 – 50:06

the disruption of narcotics, trafficking and transnational crime, and the building of resilient partnerships that serve the American economy and the American worker. I will also support Brazil's democratic institutions and press for conditions that allow free and fair elections and freedom of expression, because a stable, democratic Brazil is a better partner for the United States. The opportunity, if confirmed, to represent the United States of America abroad is the privilege of a lifetime. I pledge to this committee that I will work tirelessly to advance our national interests, strengthen this critical partnership, and make our country proud. Thank you, and I look forward to your questions.

Sen. McCormick (PA)50:07 – 50:09

Thank you, Mister Socia.

Laurence Socha (Witness)50:12 – 54:04

Thank you, Chairman McCormick, Ranking Member Rosen, and distinguished members of this committee. I'm grateful to appear before you today. I'm deeply honored by President Trump's nomination and the confidence of Secretary Rubio to serve as the United States Ambassador to the Republic of the Gambia. If confirmed, I pledge to advance American interests, strengthen our bilateral partnership, and represent the values that define our nation. I'm here today because of the hard work of a kid who minded his father's store, in Chicopee, Massachusetts, during the Great Depression. Because an Italian-American family escaped Mussolini's fascism in nineteen thirty, and because a nurse and a pharmacist fell in love in a hospital in Chicago, fifty years ago. My grandparents and parents taught me the value of integrity and the importance of hard work. Every day of their lives they supported the dreams of my brother, sister, and me. And together with my wife Denise, who I am grateful said yes to me and this journey fifteen years ago, I try to follow their example for our boys, Santiago and Marcelo. They are here today to watch their dad participate in the constitutional process of the country that gave the Stachowices, the Sochas, and the Bonavides. the home we all love so much. I have been privileged to represent the United States in twelve countries across four continents dedicating a third of my career to strengthening US relationships in Africa. I have spent most of that career sharing the American story with foreign audiences, alongside my outstanding foreign service colleagues and our inter-agency partners. While I am clear-eyed about the security challenges I witnessed in Nigeria and Somalia, The majority of African voices I heard were positive regarding Africa's future. The Gambia stands as an example of democratic transformation in West Africa. In two thousand sixteen, after twenty-two years of authoritarian rule, the Gambian people courageously voted for and achieved the country's first democratic transition of power since independence. The Gambia's progress serves as a positive example of what is possible. If confirmed, I will have no higher priority in the Gambia than the safety and security of US citizens. This includes our mission team doing extraordinary work in Banjul, and the Peace Corps volunteers who serve in communities across the country. Their dedication and professionalism, alongside that of our locally employed staff, advance American interests every day. I would also work to deepen our economic partnerships. The Gambia's strategic location on the Atlantic coast, its deep water port and river, present significant opportunities for American investment. I would advocate for American businesses in the Gambia, work to remove non-tariff barriers, and promote an environment where American enterprise can create jobs and advance prosperity for both our countries. In addition, I would prioritize American security interests. The Gambia has proven itself a reliable partner in combating transnational threats. It contributes troops to peacekeeping missions, and has consistently supported US positions, in international fora. If confirmed, I would work with the Gambia to assume an increasingly active role in advancing regional peace and security. The challenges facing the Gambia are significant. Poverty remains widespread, youth unemployment drives irregular migration, the Gambian government faces severe resource constraints. These challenges create vulnerabilities that our strategic competitors particularly China are eager to exploit. The United States supports the Gambia because we believe in the Gambian people's right to determine their own future, to live in dignity and freedom, and to build prosperity through democratic governance and economic prosperity. This, if confirmed, is the partnership I seek to advance. Thank you for your consideration. I look forward to your questions.

Sen. McCormick (PA)54:05 – 54:12

Thank you, Mr. Sosha. Um, so we're gonna b- now begin questions from the members of the committee. I'm gonna defer my questions for now and turn to Senator Daines.

Sen. Daines (MT)54:13 – 54:40

Chairman McCormick, thank you. Um, Mister Anderson, because of the Trump administration and ASEAN's collaboration last year, we saw a peace agreement between Thailand and Cambodia that stopped a bloody border clash. You alluded to that in your testimony. Looking at the future, how do you see regional partnerships and forums as a platform for closer US relations and regional stability across Southeast Asia?

Donald Blome (Witness)54:43 – 55:39

Thank you for that question, Senator, and thank you for the kind introduction. Um, I think that's a great question that honestly not only the US, but also our regional allies in the area are asking. Obviously, ASEAN is a significant regional partner, uh, and I look forward to working with Ambassador Kim to really advance those priorities. But as we look to a larger spectrum of the tools in the toolbox in the region, I think one of the most prominent prominent is the Mekong US partnership. Uh, it's a regional platform, uh, that embraces, uh, economic and, uh, natural, uh, resource cooperation amongst the five, uh, countries of the Mekong region. Uh, we're seeing that kind of blossom, uh, include, uh, some joint ventures with Japan. And leveraging that, I think, is a great opportunity to really give the region a shot in the arm, that right now, and capitalize on the optimism that it's currently there.

Sen. Daines (MT)55:40 – 56:08

Uh earlier this year, the USS Cincinnati visited Cambodia's ream naval base. The visit was intended to strengthen the mill-to-mill ties and reaffirm US access to the port, following its Chinese funded expansion. It was a promising moment in our military ties with a critical Southeast Asia country. Mister Anderson, how do you foresee the future of US-Cambodia security cooperation?

Donald Blome (Witness)56:11 – 57:05

I again thank you, sir, and and I I can't emphasize that this is again uh a question that uh our allies, specif specifically five eyes countries are asking about the region. Obviously uh Hun Manette has said that Rheims naval base is open to all friendly nations, uh yet uh most countries around the globe still question whether that is a reality. I think the first part of answering your question is engagement, how to lean forward into conversations with the government, and then looking forward at how to pursue those partnerships in an incremental measured way, as we match it with productivity on increasing the US bilateral ties. So uh seeing things move forward together, not just uh pushing an investment and then hoping for change on the back-end.

Sen. Daines (MT)57:06 – 57:43

U. S. Inva- U. S. investment in Cambodia, frankly, has been limited, especially when compared to its neighbors in Vietnam and Thailand. Economic ties have been so important, such a part of, uh, driving U. S. relations in Southeast Asia, but we really we haven't quite found major success yet where you're headed, if confirmed, to Cambodia. Mister Anderson, can you talk a little bit about why the investment climate in Cambodia has historically been difficult, as well as how you would work to bring more US business investment into the country.

Donald Blome (Witness)57:44 – 58:46

Yes, uh, thank you, sir. I Top priorities for me, if confirmed, would be scam centers, economic and security cooperation, and regional frameworks. Uh, the economic aspect that you hit on here is firmly within that second priority. Through All of my years uh of service I've noticed that not just governments but private business desired uh stable outlooks and predictability uh Cambodia, historically, has not had that predictable nature. I mean, that's proven by just the US government to government relationship that has ebbed and flowed over the years. The goal would be to work together, again, engagement engagement with Cambodia to provide a predictable outlook for the future. and then leverage some of the things that President Trump has recently done. The recic- the agreement on reciprocal ta- agreement on reciprocal trade, uh, the open skies agreement and other aspects are tools to propel us to encourage, not only US but global investment into Cambodia.

Sen. Daines (MT)58:47 – 58:49

Mr. Anderson, thank you. Mr. Chairman, you're back.

Sen. McCormick (PA)58:50 – 58:51

Terrific. Senator Rosen.

Sen. Rosen (NV)58:52 – 59:38

Thank you, Mister Chairman, I'm gonna start out to talk a little bit about people-to-people programming. So given their ta track record of building a pathway to peace, there's long been strong bipartisan support in Congress for people-to-people programs between Israelis Palestinians and other Arab neighbors. But many of these programs have been frozen or canceled since the beginning of this administration. So Ambassador Ambassador Blom, at a moment of violence, mistrust, instability in the region, efforts to strengthen people-to-people engagement, particularly between Israelis and Palestinians are more important than ever. If confirmed, will you prioritize programs designed to advance Israeli-Palestinian peace-building efforts, like MEPA or Merck?

Donald Blome (Witness)59:41 – 1:00:10

Thank you, uh, very much for that question, Senator. Um, uh, uh, I can say that with my experience over over many years, including working directly on Israeli-Palestinian, uh, issues, uh, I understand uh the strength uh that can come from people-to-people exchanges um uh often often benefits that that come after after many years of such programming they can pay off in a in a very long run um if could

Sen. Rosen (NV)1:00:09 – 1:00:17

Will you work will you work to ensure that the Bureau has the resources and personnel to manage these important programs as well?

Donald Blome (Witness)1:00:17 – 1:00:28

Senator I will wi- uh within the broader parameters of our our our assistance programming at the department to look for opportunities where we can effectively deploy those kind of funding uh sources.

Sen. Rosen (NV)1:00:28 – 1:01:00

Well, I look forward to working with you in strengthening those partnerships. I believe that creates stability on the ground. I wanna move on now to religious pluralism. Mister Mastriano, you've spoken many times about the Christian identity of the United States and that separation of church and state is a myth. So I just have a simple question for you and if you could Look at me when you s- answer this. Do you think political, US political leaders should all be Christian?

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:01:03 – 1:01:23

Thank you, Senator, for that question. So having spent more than thirty years in the uniform of leading men and women, of all creeds, all races, um from every corner of Pennsylvania and every corner of the United States, my record stands clear that uh I uphold and defend the Constitution and its values and w- The fact Pennsylvania was founded by William Penn.

Sen. Rosen (NV)1:01:22 – 1:01:31

So I just want a simple yes or no. Do you think US political leaders should be Christian? It's a simple yes or no.

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:01:30 – 1:01:36

I ber- believe in the rule of law and that religious liberty applies to every American why our country was founded.

Sen. Rosen (NV)1:01:34 – 1:02:24

So, I I I'm not sure why you won't answer the question in that way, but what I do want to say is that I do find it deeply problematic that you won't look me in the eye and say that leaders in the United States. We are a pluralistic country, Huh. don't have to be Christian. And so leaders can come from any faith, Judaism, Um, madam, um. Of course. Islam, Hinduism. And if you were to be confirmed, you would be in charge of an embassy, sir, that will have a diverse staff. You will be meeting with diplomatic leaders from every race and faith from all around the world. And I just want to be sure that you'll be able to reconcile your world view with the responsibilities of your role. But I'm loo

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:02:23 – 1:02:28

And Senator, I would look in your eye and and repeat it in simpler language rather than constitutional phrasing.

Sen. Rosen (NV)1:02:28 – 1:02:29

Thank you.

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:02:29 – 1:02:38

We we are absolutely a pluralistic society, and I have worked for non-Christians in the military and the government, and I've had them working for me. I've had people from Saudi Arabia, Iraq, wait.

Sen. Rosen (NV)1:02:37 – 1:03:02

That wasn't the question, though, the question was do you think leadership should only be Christian? But we're gonna move on to some other things with my time left. In October twenty twenty two, your wife said at one of your campaign events that the two of you probably love Israel more than a lot of Jews do. So, um, just I have some other things I wanna add. So yes or no, do you agree with that statement? You love Israel more than a lot of Jews? Yes or no, please?

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:03:02 – 1:03:07

But both Rebbe and I have a deep love and appreciation for the Jewish people and the nation of Israel.

Sen. Rosen (NV)1:03:06 – 1:03:15

I appreciate that. So can you confirm that you've complete, complete, compl uh, excuse me, repeatedly compared things to the Holocaust, such as abortion or your loss to governorship?

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:03:22 – 1:03:30

I've been working closely with the Jewish community for Senate Bill one twenty seven in Pennsylvania to ma- to institute Holocaust education across the state.

Sen. Rosen (NV)1:03:26 – 1:03:28

We we've seen the statements.

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:03:30 – 1:03:34

And I think any use of comparisons uh is is unwise.

Sen. Rosen (NV)1:03:34 – 1:03:36

So you're saying you you didn't make these statements.

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:03:34 – 1:03:39

I th I, no, I I think it diminishes and I and today I would not do that.

Sen. Rosen (NV)1:03:40 – 1:03:43

To so you made the statements but you're renouncing the statements.

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:03:40 – 1:03:45

But they have since There there was a social media post that I would not

Sen. Rosen (NV)1:03:51 – 1:04:02

Well, uh I appreciate that, because you will be representing the United States and Slovakia, where nearly sixty nine thousand Slovak Jews were murdered during the Holocaust,

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:04:00 – 1:04:00

Yep.

Sen. Rosen (NV)1:04:02 – 1:04:58

over seventy five percent of the entire Slovak Jewish population. And so, um, we have to be sure that you will represent this country. We know that you've maintained a relationship with Andrew Torba, founder of extremist social media platform Gab. He's a notorious a gun a notorious Gab became notorious after the gunman who murdered eleven worshipers at Pittsburgh's Tree of Life synagogue, posted his manifesto there. And so despite his documented history of antisemitism, the rhetoric, the Holocaust denialism, your campaign paid Gab for promotional services, I'm gonna finish with this for now. You can denounce your past associations with anti-semites. You can point to your support of Israel. But for me, I'm not sure that neither excuses you or erases your record. Thank you, Mister Chairman.

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:04:58 – 1:05:00

Mister Chairman Mary, reply.

Sen. McCormick (PA)1:05:02 – 1:05:09

Um Sir, would you like Very briefly, please.

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:05:10 – 1:05:35

So uh, Gouverneur took pro campaign, obviously campaign donations come in from a from a gamut, and we don't vet everybody. And then when it was pointed out to me that uh Torba had donated five hundred dollars for a campaign I immediately returned that and we then af- eh thereafter we cut off all uh advertisement on his platform as well. So we completely severed that once his anti-semitic views were support became apparent. Thank you, Mister Chairman.

Sen. Rosen (NV)1:05:36 – 1:05:37

Thank you for the clarification.

Sen. McCormick (PA)1:05:36 – 1:05:37

Thank thank you.

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:05:37 – 1:05:38

Thank you.

Sen. McCormick (PA)1:05:38 – 1:05:39

Senator Ricketts.

Sen. Ricketts (NE)1:05:39 – 1:07:13

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Nebraska is a national leader in ethanol production. By the way, this is the third committee I've got to talk about ethanol in, so I've I got one more to do. But this is actually but I got but I related it into why it's important, just so you know. So our bio-refinery, it's not a stretch. No, no, we're gonna get there. But our bio-refinery produce over two billion gallons worth of ethanol each year, helping secure American energy independence while generating billions of dollars of econom- uh of uh to our economy and creating thousands of jobs. Frustratingly though, American ethanol continues to see significant market uh market access challenges in Brazil. That's how we tied it in, Mr. Chairman, just so you know. So, uh since twenty seventeen, Brazil has sought to have preferential treatment for their ethanol exports into the United States, while at the same time limiting our ethanol exports to Brazil through tariff and non-tariff trade barriers. The result is that Brazilian exports of our our actually our exports to Brazil, of our ethanol has dropped from about thirty percent of our overall ethanol exports down to one or two percent. It's completely unacceptable. And that's why I applaud what the USTR did yesterday by announcing a twenty five percent tariff on Brazilian goods including ethanol to address this unfairness. We need to take every step possible to make sure that corn growers and bio-refinery sort of having a level playing field around the world. Mister Perez, if confirmed, what actions will you take to help restore fair access to American ethanol into Brazilian markets?

Daniel Anthony Perez (Witness)1:07:14 – 1:07:22

Thank you, Senator Ricketts, for that question. You're absolutely right. Uh, we are upside down when it comes to ethanol and I'm no expert in ethanol, but I can tell you

Sen. Ricketts (NE)1:07:22 – 1:07:23

Oh, I'm one, so I can help you.

Daniel Anthony Perez (Witness)1:07:23 – 1:07:35

that that that's why I said that. I uh, it is my understanding that the Brazilians' taxes at about eighteen percent on ethanol And in reverse, we are taxing about one and a half to two percent.

Sen. Ricketts (NE)1:07:35 – 1:07:39

I think we were actually zero. I don't think we had any tariffs on the Bras- or their ethanol until yesterday.

Daniel Anthony Perez (Witness)1:07:41 – 1:08:26

Whether it's one percent or zero percent, it's significantly less than the eighteen percent that they are taxing us. Uh, there is a gap there, and it's not just in ethanol. I think there's a gap across energy, across infrastructure, uh, when it comes to the Brazilian United States relationship. Part of that, in my opinion, has to do with exposure, if confirmed, if I'm able to make it down to Brazil and get boots on the ground, the relationships between the private sector, it's not just the government, the private sector uh inside the United States and the Brazilian government, the Brazilian private sector, the citizens of Brazil can be amplified and that is one of my goals, to be able to get the boots on the ground and have those relationships so that we can start to to amplify the business between uh Brazilians and Americans when it comes to ethanol, that is one of the gaps that I think are the largest uh and hopefully soon we can make that gap shorter.

Sen. Ricketts (NE)1:08:27 – 1:09:42

Great, I'm heartened to hear that. Uh, Mister Anderson, uh, in your remarks to uh Senator Daines, you mentioned that your number one priority was actually the scam centers in Cambodia. And I'm also heartened to hear that is one of your priorities. Uh, these scam centers, also known, I guess, as pig butchering work, um, they bring in victims, uh, to get their money and to put their money into these fraudulent schemes, uh, investment schemes, and last year estimated to have cost Americans ten billion dollars ten billions dollars of people's livelihoods their savings their retirement funds complete they've been some people have been completely destroyed by this and um it also includes the the people that they have working in the scam centers that are often victims themselves uh being forced to work under brutal and um terrible conditions the Cambodian government has increased its effort to crack down on these scam compounds And of course the United States through sanctions, asset seizures and law enforcement operations has also taken aggressive action, but these scam centers keep popping up. Uh if confirmed, how will you work with Phnom Penh to continue to aggressively combat these scam centers? You've made it your number one priority. Tell me how do you think you're gonna tackle it?

Donald Blome (Witness)1:09:43 – 1:11:18

Yes. Thank you, Senator. Um obviously uh it starts one with the optimism in the relationship that has been built over the past two years with Hunh Minet. Uh, and the first step is the conversation of the realism of where Cambodia is on combating these scam centers, and what Hunmanet is expecting to do in the future, and work with the relationship on this. Obviously we've seen President Trump enact a number of things over the past year, uh in executive order, OFAC has gone after things we have seized, uh something, a billion plus dollars in bitcoin. Uh additionally this This committee uh has passed out of the committee and then passed out of the Senate, the Scam Act, which is a great um great tool for uh not only highlighting but identifying uh, you know, new tools in the toolbox where we can pull levers. Uh, sort of bluntly answer your question, it it's gonna be boots on ground, getting my hands dirty, bringing in joint task force, working with a myriad of agencies, not one agency has all of the tools, so it'll be State Department. Department of Justice, Department of War, and then our regional allies uh to really attack uh the scam centers. And then I believe if you attack the sc- scam centers uh and eliminate that problem, you also see beneficial aspects on a number of other problems. Uh, it will eliminate a demand signal for human trafficking. Now that won't solve the human trafficking issue in a singular aspect, but it will reduce the uh demand signal, and then we can start to work on beneficial aspects from there.

Sen. Ricketts (NE)1:11:18 – 1:11:20

Great. Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Sen. McCormick (PA)1:11:23 – 1:11:24

Thank you, Mr. Shahin.

Sen. Shaheen (NH)1:11:25 – 1:12:45

Um, welcome to our nominees, to all of your families and supporters who are here with you today. Um, I'd like to begin with you, Mr. Mastriano, because given your military service and the leadership that you described in your opening remarks and that the um subcommittee chair described in higher education I'm really surprised. that you've made such indiscreet, impolitic, and undiplomatic comments, both publicly and on social media posts. And I I wanna go to one comment from a twenty eighteen radio interview, where you called the European Union leadership "the political diplomatic enemies of the United States of America". That's a direct quote. Now if confirmed, you would lead the American presence in an EU country where Russian and Chinese influence demand our full attention and where out of the twenty-seven EU member states, twenty-three are our NATO allies, including Slovakia. So how do you explain that and how will you explain that to the European leadership and officials that you would have to deal with if you are confirmed in this position?

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:12:46 – 1:13:40

Yeah, thank you f- for that good question, Senator. I appreciate it. Yeah, that's uh eight years ago, and the dynamics between the United States and and the EU leadership has has shifted quite a bit. Back then there was a con considerable hostility between American interests and American first policy and the EU response. In particular, which later that response was was hearing then the leader of the EU sp, uh he was a spokesman from Italy, I forget his name, basically saying that the EU won World War Two and the United States and Great Britain had nothing to do with it. Nigel Farana Farange, of course, who was still a member of the EU parliament, stood up and corrected a record. That was the kind of leadership we were facing at the time. There was resistance to increasing the NATO budget. There was res- resistance to American uh interest in economic aid to the region. I've but my record shows that I have worked well with them across the world. I've had no problem. In fact, I have deep connections both today even in the civil leadership and the military leadership across Western and Central and Northern Europe.

Sen. Shaheen (NH)1:13:41 – 1:14:16

Uh, well, I was on this committee and in the United States Senate in twenty eighteen, and I didn't view the leadership of Europe as political and diplomatic enemies of the United States. And I don't think that approach was helpful then. I don't think it's helpful now. And I understand that you told the staff when you were being interviewed, that you believe the EU is a rising rival, I quote, comparable to China, and that it would eventually create a standing army to challenge the United States. Is that what you believe? Do you really believe that?

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:14:17 – 1:14:35

It is, it is merely the goal of EU leadership. Right? I'm a senator, I should know to press that button. It is the goal of the stated leadership of the EU and they've been in desire of building their own EU army for n since two thousand and two when I was a planner in US Army Headquarters Europe. And uh

Sen. Shaheen (NH)1:14:35 – 1:14:37

They have talked about, I I have been in those

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:14:36 – 1:14:40

It it is. Sure.

Sen. Shaheen (NH)1:14:40 – 1:15:03

And I can tell you that nobody ever suggested that would that would be in lieu of the United States or in lieu of NATO and the cooperative effort that we have with our allies and I can tell you that it was the NATO allies who came to our defense when we got attacked on nine eleven the only time article five has been invoked.

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:15:02 – 1:15:05

They served with them in Afghanistan side by side.

Sen. Shaheen (NH)1:15:05 – 1:15:08

And so you should know better. than to make those comments.

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:15:06 – 1:15:18

So es- especially lately we're hearing more arguments out of the latest debate come from the EU that they want to have capability beyond the America and not to rely upon American readiness uh if s-

Sen. Shaheen (NH)1:15:17 – 1:15:23

Well, and I can understand why, given some of the attacks from people like you in the United States that you've made

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:15:21 – 1:15:22

But uh

Sen. Shaheen (NH)1:15:23 – 1:15:24

against the EU.

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:15:23 – 1:15:49

uh uh I regret that mischaracterization because my view is we we do work better together and I have served and bled on the battlefields with NATO allies for more than thirty years in my career and I understand the importance of this alliance. But I I don't wanna see this this uh most successful alliance in the history of the world, NATO, to to fade away or be overshadowed by an EU army. I think that undercuts our international interests.

Sen. Shaheen (NH)1:15:51 – 1:16:17

I haven't heard anybody at NATO suggesting that that's gonna happen. Um, so I I think you're absolutely right. We do work better when we work together and we cooperate. Um, and I would think somebody who served on the battlefield with those countries would know better than to make those kinds of statements. And I can tell you as a diplomat representing the United States of America, you should absolutely know better.

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:16:18 – 1:16:20

Mister Chairman, if I could resp respond, please.

Sen. Shaheen (NH)1:16:19 – 1:16:33

Um, if I could go on to Mr. Blaum, um. Lebanon is really at a critical turning point right now. Um, I'm encouraged that there are direct negotiations between Lebanon and Israel.

Donald Blome (Witness)1:16:55 – 1:17:39

Thanks for that uh question, Senator. Um absolutely uh an important element of our negotiations or of our facilitation of the negotiations between Israel and Lebanon is that support for the laugh. The the laugh has played an important role in counterterrorism and border security, all with uh the assistance of the United States. That's not to diminish that, you know, there are issues with the laugh that we have to address, uh difficult issues. Um but the extent to which we're able to make progress on finding a way to replace uh Hezbollah in Lebanon and uh create a new uh future free of foreign domination in that country runs in some way through the laugh as well.

Sen. Shaheen (NH)1:17:40 – 1:17:42

Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Sen. McCormick (PA)1:17:43 – 1:17:44

Thank you, Senator Scott.

Sen. Scott (FL)1:17:44 – 1:17:53

Sure. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Pris, uh what are um some of your top priorities when you get get this job, and what's what's success look like at the end of your time there?

Daniel Anthony Perez (Witness)1:17:54 – 1:19:19

Well, thank you, Senator, for that question and thank you for the very kind introduction and your continued friendship. I would break them down into three different priorities. I would say first would be the security of the United States and all the Americans that live inside of the United States, but it's not just those that live here in the mainland. I would say the employees uh that work and that serve this country in Brazil. It's my understanding we have a little over a thousand employees that work within the Brazil the American embassy in Brazil, and their security is just as important to me as us here as we sit here today. Second would be diplomacy. I think there's a huge opportunity for us to increase diplomatic relationships with Brazil. We obviously have an election in Brazil that is upcoming here in the first week of October and regardless of what that election shows, there's an opportunity for us to bridge that gap and I believe I have the right skill set to be able to do that, assuming I get the opportunity to serve. And the last one would be trade. We do have a trade surplus with Brazil, but nevertheless, and Senator Rick has alluded to this earlier, there are some industries that have a significant gap. It's not just ethanol. I would say we have a problem in energy, uh agriculture is a a massive problem for us, specifically the beef um trade between the United States and Brazil. And if confirmed, those are the three priorities that I will be focusing on as soon as I am able to hit the ground.

Sen. Scott (FL)1:19:20 – 1:19:59

Thank you. Mister Mastriano. After the conclusion of the most recent NATO summit in Akron, uh the Slovakia Prime Minister reiter reiterated that they would not contribute to NATO's seventy billion dollar military aid package for Ukraine for the EU's six, uh ninety, uh um um billion dollar Euro uh military loan. Uh they've he has requested a favors dialogue with Russia, but his approach completely misunderstands what negotiations actually require, requires leverage. So the only way to create, in my opinion, real leverage over uh the Kremlin is to ensure Ukraine has the support it needs. So tell me how you're gonna navigate this.

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:20:00 – 1:20:47

Thank you, Senator, for that good question. I do appreciate it. It Slovakia is in a difficult position. I estimate, according to my research, I'm not read on anymore, so maybe I'm wrong, but it's about a quarter of its energy is rush from Russian oil and gas. So that that gives continued leverage to Moscow, and I think that's painted uh uh Prime Minister Fico into a corner. Additionally, his c- economy is stagnated, I think largely because of the tariff war. Of course, uh Slovakia is the number one per capita car producer in the world, and uh they rely upon exports for that largely uh to the United States, and uh thi this is causing a problem. So I I the point is is we need Slovakia to get on board here to keep the pressure up on Russia. Uh w as a strategist and a professional soldier professional soldier, I it's it's in incredible what's Ukraine has done.

Sen. Scott (FL)1:21:02 – 1:21:16

Thank you. Mister Blum, in early June a ceasefire agreement was reached between Israel and Lebanon to end hostilities. Under the terms of the US mediated agreement, the ceasefire is contingent upon a complete secession of Hezbollah,

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:21:16 – 1:21:16

Mm.

Sen. Scott (FL)1:21:16 – 1:21:34

firing and uh and evacuation of Hezbollah operators from southern Lebanon. Um, pala zones are being created in which Lebanese armed forces can take exclusive control, as the Israel forces withdraw. Do you agree that Israel has a right to defend itself? Uh, and so does Lebanon, and respond to Hezbollah violations of the agreement.

Donald Blome (Witness)1:21:36 – 1:21:44

Um, absolutely I agree that Israel has a right to defend itself there, uh as well as uh the Lebanese government, uh yes.

Sen. Scott (FL)1:21:45 – 1:21:49

So do you think th what do you think about the the ceasefire? Do you think it's gonna last? You think it's gonna work?

Donald Blome (Witness)1:21:50 – 1:22:36

Uh I'm I'm I think it's a very important uh to uh find a way forward on Lebanon. I think it's a moment um uh because of Israel's military successes against Hezbollah, um because of the weaker position that Iran is in in their ability to uh maintain its support for Hezbollah uh that it's a moment we have to test. and and see what we can do to find uh a way forward in a very difficult uh situation. Success is far from guaranteed on on that uh uh but I fully support the engagement on it uh now sixth round of talks that we've had to try to find uh something that works on a very important problem uh that will provide security both for Israel and ultimately for Lebanon.

Sen. Scott (FL)1:22:36 – 1:22:49

I think it it's a big deal. If we can if they can get security and get rid of Hezbollah, allow Lebanese people to uh to live a life they wanna live along with the Israelis without all this uh fighting, it'd be unbelievable. So I hope you'll do everything you can to make sure it succeeds.

Donald Blome (Witness)1:22:49 – 1:22:50

Thank you, I will.

Sen. McCormick (PA)1:22:52 – 1:22:52

Thank you, Senator Kaine.

Sen. Kaine (VA)1:22:53 – 1:26:00

Hey, thank you uh, Mr. Chair, I appreciate this hearing. Uh, Mister Mastriano, I I I look at your nomination and I have a real sense of sadness about it, and I'm gonna tell you why. Your military record of service to the country and your sacrifice is really superb, and you and you went into that in your own statement, and I find so much to admire there, your own sacrifice and your family's sacrifice. Um and then in in the middle of your comments you kinda hinted but then I got into politics I had been respected in the military, but then I got into politics and people called me everything but a good man. I I I think you need to look in the mirror a little bit. Um my colleague, but both my colleagues have pointed out evidences of things that you've said and people you've associated with that are highly highly unusual. You've you've associated with anti-semites and Holocaust deniers. You've associated with nine eleven conspiracy theorists. Um you've made comments about foreign leaders that are not diplomatic in quality. Um and you and I share a very special day in American history. We were both here on January sixth, twenty twenty one. you engaged in repeated efforts before that day and since to challenge the integrity of the presidential election and there's even some controversy about what exactly you were doing here on the Capitol that day but there isn't any controversy about why you were here you were here because you were urging Congress to reject the certification of the electoral results and to interrupt the peaceful transfer of power. And all of us who were here that day remember what it was like to be under attack with people who were trying to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power. I never served in the military, but I lived in a military dictatorship in Honduras when I was a missionary. And I know what dictators do, and I know what it is to undermine democratic institutions. And to my knowledge, now you can correct me if I'm wrong. To my knowledge, you've never retracted your belief that that election was somehow illegitimate. I I I was on the floor later in the day after the rioters were finally cleared, and I watched both of your state senators at the time, Senator Casey and Senator Toomey, when a non-Pennsylvanian challenged the Pennsylvania results, I believe it was a senator from Missouri, I watched both of your state senators absolutely shred the argument that there was anything wrong about the Pennsylvania election results. They they they were insulted that a that a Missouri senator would challenge the integrity of the Pennsylvania elections, and they shredded that argument, just like courts have repeatedly shredded the argument. Am I wrong? Have you retracted the various conspiracies that you apparently have been laboring under with respect to the twenty twenty election?

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:26:01 – 1:26:13

Uh, I mean, Senator, what do you want me to address specifically? I've I've never been involved in conspiracies. The one thing I did before January sixth was be part of a hearing in Gettysburg, exercising our oversight per the US Constitution, Article one,

Sen. Kaine (VA)1:26:13 – 1:26:19

But but but you were here on January sixth to urge Congress to reject to reject

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:26:13 – 1:26:28

section four. No, no, that is that is incorrect. That is incorrect. I was here to hear the president, I was here with my wife to hear the president of the United States speak. We didn't do anything illegal. We came, we saw, we left.

Sen. Kaine (VA)1:26:27 – 1:26:31

Okay, I I think the record is gonna demonstrate to the contrary,

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:26:31 – 1:26:32

No, sir, it does not.

Sen. Kaine (VA)1:26:31 – 1:26:37

but but how but how about today, will you accept the twenty twenty presidential election?

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:26:36 – 1:26:39

Joe Biden was certified and and and and

Sen. Kaine (VA)1:26:38 – 1:26:40

OK, no, I'm not saying certified.

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:26:40 – 1:26:41

the question is closed.

Sen. Kaine (VA)1:26:40 – 1:26:45

Was was was Joe Biden elected the president of the United States by by both,

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:26:43 – 1:26:45

But to and for I I have not been a

Sen. Kaine (VA)1:26:45 – 1:26:47

by both the popular

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:26:46 – 1:26:50

I have not been a target or a subject of any criminal investigation related to this.

Sen. Kaine (VA)1:26:48 – 1:26:51

Hey, hey, I'm not asking you about your criminal record.

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:26:51 – 1:26:52

OK.

Sen. Kaine (VA)1:26:52 – 1:26:58

Just answer this question. Was Joe Biden elected president in twenty twenty by both the popular vote and the electoral college?

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:26:59 – 1:27:06

Joe Biden was certified per the constitutional process, and and and I was not here to disrupt anything of the senator.

Sen. Kaine (VA)1:27:03 – 1:27:10

Who who who? Okay. Well, I'm not asking you about th about that. I'm asking i listen, h here is the point.

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:27:08 – 1:27:11

I came to hear our president speak. Yes, sir.

Sen. Kaine (VA)1:27:12 – 1:27:28

I've never known a conspiracy theorist who just believed one conspiracy. Conspiracy theorists generally are gullible people. They might have master's degrees and PHDs, and you've got them, and the United States is invested in you to have those degrees.

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:27:28 – 1:27:28

Mm.

Sen. Kaine (VA)1:27:29 – 1:27:34

But somebody who will believe a conspiracy theory about nine eleven or the Holocaust

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:27:34 – 1:27:36

I don't kno- I don't know what you're talking about, Senator.

Sen. Kaine (VA)1:27:34 – 1:27:39

or about the January the January twenty twenty election, they're gullible.

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:27:39 – 1:27:43

I don't subscribe to any of those conspiracies about nine eleven or the Holocaust.

Sen. Kaine (VA)1:27:39 – 1:27:46

You you you you you you preach you preach conspiracies about the twenty twenty election,

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:27:46 – 1:27:46

No, sir.

Sen. Kaine (VA)1:27:46 – 1:27:51

guess what? That a fourth grader with common sense would find ridiculous.

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:27:49 – 1:27:53

That's inaccurate, Senator. All I did is hold a hearing for my constitutional responsibility

Sen. Kaine (VA)1:27:53 – 1:27:54

No, you didn't.

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:27:53 – 1:27:57

as a committee chair in Pennsylvania per per article one section four.

Sen. Kaine (VA)1:27:55 – 1:28:03

Oh, all all I did was hold a hearing. Oh, but Forget that I came to the Capitol on January sixth as it was under attack,

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:28:01 – 1:28:02

To hear our President speak.

Sen. Kaine (VA)1:28:03 – 1:28:07

and urged people to reject a peaceful transfer of power.

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:28:06 – 1:28:09

I gave no speeches, I came to hear the President's spea-

Sen. Kaine (VA)1:28:08 – 1:28:10

You you you can't erase your record now, Mr. President.

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:28:10 – 1:28:11

No, sir, there's no erasing it.

Sen. Kaine (VA)1:28:11 – 1:28:13

Let me ask one last question,

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:28:13 – 1:28:14

Back to stubborn things.

Sen. Kaine (VA)1:28:13 – 1:28:19

Mister Mister Mister Perez. Mister Perez, do we have a trade surplus or a trade deficit with Brazil?

Daniel Anthony Perez (Witness)1:28:20 – 1:28:21

We have a trade surplus, sir.

Sen. Kaine (VA)1:28:21 – 1:28:23

A massive trade surplus, correct?

Daniel Anthony Perez (Witness)1:28:22 – 1:28:23

Yes, editor. Yes, editor.

Sen. Kaine (VA)1:28:24 – 1:28:45

So when President Trump imposed tariffs on Brazil saying I'm doing this Liberation Day tariff cuz nations are ripping us off. We sell a lot more to Brazil than they sell to us. Um, yesterday we put a twenty five percent tariff on Brazil and they say they're gonna reciprocate against us. If they reciprocate at twenty five percent, who loses more, the US or Brazil?

Daniel Anthony Perez (Witness)1:28:45 – 1:28:52

Thank you for the question, Senator. Obviously this is a new tariff that was implemented yesterday at some point, uh overnight while I was asleep.

Sen. Kaine (VA)1:28:53 – 1:28:53

Yeah.

Daniel Anthony Perez (Witness)1:28:53 – 1:28:54

I did read the articles this morning.

Sen. Kaine (VA)1:28:55 – 1:28:56

Yeah, and you've had nothing to do with it, I guess.

Daniel Anthony Perez (Witness)1:28:56 – 1:29:01

And and a and a USTR has made their decisions. I I will learn more about it over the next several weeks with you,

Sen. Kaine (VA)1:29:00 – 1:29:01

Okay, well, let me just, I'm

Daniel Anthony Perez (Witness)1:29:01 – 1:29:01

if I'm

Sen. Rosen (NV)1:29:04 – 1:29:04

Okay.

Sen. Kaine (VA)1:29:04 – 1:29:31

If we have a trade surplus with that means we're selling more to them than they're selling to us. If we put a twenty five percent tariff on them and then they put an equal tariff on us, it's the United States that has the most to lose. So we'll not only see inflation go up on products coming from Brazil, But the tariff put on US manufacturers because we sell more to Brazil than others, is gonna hurt our own businesses more than Brazil's businesses will be hurt. I yield back.

Sen. Rosen (NV)1:29:31 – 1:29:33

Senator Kane, Senator Van Hollen.

Sen. Van Hollen (MD)1:29:33 – 1:30:14

Uh, thank you, Senator Rosen. Um, and let me just say at the outset that I I share all the concerns expressed, uh, Mister Mastriano, uh, by my colleagues about your your past record, um, a- and conduct. I I'm gonna focus my my questions here to Ambassador Blum, and I appreciate the chance to get together with you yesterday. Uh, and I wanna start today with the issue I started with yesterday, with which is Syria. Um, I think, Mister Ambassador, we both agree that the current moment holds promise, but it's also very precarious. Is that a quick summary of where we are?

Donald Blome (Witness)1:30:14 – 1:30:16

That is accurate, Senator.

Sen. Van Hollen (MD)1:30:16 – 1:30:35

And I was glad to see the administration lift the state sponsor of terrorism uh recently as part of the NATO summit. Um and as you know, Senator Shaheen and many of us worked to lift the sanctions uh on Syria uh here, and I I assume you support all of those actions.

Donald Blome (Witness)1:30:37 – 1:30:37

Yes, I do, Senator.

Sen. Van Hollen (MD)1:30:38 – 1:31:11

And uh I I I will say that when we lifted those sanctions, we included report language Um, making clear that we believe that success in Syria requires that the government uh include elements from all parts of Syrian society, uh Alawites, Kurds, Druze, Christians. You would agree that the success, the future of Syria depends on making sure all those groups are included in its governance, would you not?

Donald Blome (Witness)1:31:12 – 1:31:15

Absolutely, Senator. It is a multi-ethnic society.

Sen. Van Hollen (MD)1:31:16 – 1:31:31

I I will say, you know, the late Senator Graham and I spent a lot of time together making sure that the United States did not abandon uh our commitment to the Syrian Kurds, the SDF, because they have been the tip of the spear with us in the fight against ISIS. Isn't that right?

Donald Blome (Witness)1:31:32 – 1:31:33

That is correct.

Sen. Van Hollen (MD)1:31:34 – 1:32:04

So, one of the concerns that w was raised in this sort of shaky uh moment um was the continued presence of Israeli forces in in Syria and I think that there's been um a sense with the the administration um and elsewhere that that um is not a productive uh thing to happen to continue that presence in southern Syria. Is that a fair statement of the administration's concerns?

Donald Blome (Witness)1:32:06 – 1:32:10

I think that is certainly one of the concerns that we have to address going forward.

Sen. Van Hollen (MD)1:32:10 – 1:32:10

Yeah.

Donald Blome (Witness)1:32:10 – 1:32:11

Yes, Senator.

Sen. Van Hollen (MD)1:32:10 – 1:32:19

And isn't it the case just within the last twenty-four hours President Trump asked Prime Minister Netanyahu to remove Israeli forces from Syria.

Donald Blome (Witness)1:32:21 – 1:32:31

I will I'll I'll let President Trump's uh statement speak for himself, but um I I think it's it's a issue on which we've been engaged diplomatically and we'll continue to be engaged diplomatically.

Sen. Van Hollen (MD)1:32:32 – 1:32:48

Well, I'm I'm just reading from an an article uh here um where It's reporting that the president said to Prime Minister Netanyahu, you should redeploy out of Syria. Do you have any reason to dispute this article?

Donald Blome (Witness)1:32:48 – 1:32:49

Absolutely not.

Sen. Van Hollen (MD)1:32:49 – 1:33:44

Okay. Let me ask you about the situation um in the West Bank uh because we've seen a continued rise in settler violence against Palestinians, um working to push Palestinians off their lands. With this very extremist Netanyahu government, we've seen the complicity of the IDF in certain cases in pushing Palestinians off their land. Uh, what I wanna ask you about specifically, uh, is nine American citizens, nine, nine American citizens who've been killed on the West Bank either by settler violence or Israeli security forces just in the last four years. And, uh, I would, um, Madam Chair, uh, like to just put into the record a letter that thirty-one senators sent to Secretary Rubio on on March fifth on this topic.

Sen. Rosen (NV)1:33:44 – 1:33:45

Without objection.

Sen. Van Hollen (MD)1:33:46 – 1:33:53

Thank you. Um, are you aware of these deaths, killings of American citizens on the West Bank?

Donald Blome (Witness)1:33:54 – 1:33:55

Yes, Senator, I'm aware of these cases.

Sen. Van Hollen (MD)1:33:56 – 1:34:01

Are you aware of the fact that there's been no accountability in any of these cases?

Donald Blome (Witness)1:34:03 – 1:34:21

Senator, I believe that while we have to condemn any kind of acts of criminal violence in the West Bank from any party we have a special obligation to follow up and ensure co- uh accountability and transparency in the case uh of American citizens uh and if confirmed, it will certainly be a priority for me.

Sen. Van Hollen (MD)1:34:22 – 1:34:52

I appreciate that because the letter we received back from both um from Secretary Rubio on behalf of Secretary Rubio said the same thing that the number one priority of US representation overseas protect US citizens, but we have had no accountability with respect to these cases. And finally, I just wanna raise with you a case that I I mentioned yesterday. As we speak, we have an American citizen, Sama Safi, twenty year old student being imprisoned um in Israel, American citizen. Are you aware of her case?

Donald Blome (Witness)1:34:54 – 1:34:56

Senator, I'm I'm not aware of the specifics of that case.

Sen. Van Hollen (MD)1:34:56 – 1:35:18

Okay. Well, she has uh spoken about um the abuse she's experienced. This is a trumped up political charges against her. And I hope the US government will work really hard to get her release. And I I hope that happens between the time of this hearing and the time we consider these nominations on the Senate floor. Thank you, Senator Rosen.

Sen. Rosen (NV)1:35:18 – 1:35:19

Thank you. Senator Shaheen.

Sen. Shaheen (NH)1:35:20 – 1:35:41

Um, thank you, Senator Rosen. Um, I wanna follow up on Senator Van Hollen's questions about Syria and agree to applaud the commitment to lift the state sponsor of terrorism sanction against Syria. That has not yet happened, though the the administration has indicated that they intend to do that. Is that correct?

Donald Blome (Witness)1:35:42 – 1:35:42

That is correct.

Sen. Shaheen (NH)1:35:42 – 1:35:45

Do you have any idea what the timeline to do that will be?

Donald Blome (Witness)1:35:46 – 1:35:54

I believe with from the date of the notification there's a forty five day period required uh before it becomes uh it takes effect.

Sen. Shaheen (NH)1:35:54 – 1:35:59

Okay. So we should see that happen sometime in the next month or so.

Donald Blome (Witness)1:36:00 – 1:36:01

Yes, Senator.

Sen. Shaheen (NH)1:36:02 – 1:36:46

Um, I appreciated your comments and Senator Van Hollens' about the importance of power sharing in Syria with um the various members of Syria's ethnic groups with women in that country. There has been progress made, but clearly there's more that needs to be done. Um, and one of the things that is important as we think about the lifting of sanctions is how to see more economic development in the country. Can you just talk about what the impact would be if the development finance corporation or the export import bank would decide to back a project in Syria what effect would that have on the confidence of other investors?

Donald Blome (Witness)1:36:48 – 1:37:29

I I think it would be very important. I th I think um i you know look the the the biggest challenge uh of the many many challenges in front of Syria is i is to find um an economic path forward to give people hope that uh this transition will result in better lives. The economy contracted eighty four percent uh between n two thousand twelve and two thousand twenty six in Syria. Um it's been a devastating period for the country uh so I think we have to do everything we can to to try to bring economic opportunity to Syria as quickly as possible uh and if confirmed, I'd look for any tools that we have available to us to to try to promote that.

Sen. Shaheen (NH)1:37:30 – 1:37:55

Good. Well, hopefully we will see um something break in terms of that investment soon. Um, Mister Sosha, in twenty twenty four, the Gambia formalized a special tribunal that was tasked with prosecuting human rights violations, um, during the reign of President Jama. Um, that tribunal was supposed to receive sixty million dollars in US assistance until the

Laurence Socha (Witness)1:38:18 – 1:38:48

Thank you for the question, Senator. Thank you for the question, Senator. Um I think the um Truth Reconciliation and Reparations Commi- Commission has really set the stage uh for uh the continued democratic development uh in the Gambia. It is a i- issue that I will focus on so that uh Gambia's democracy can continue to flourish. I do believe that uh any foreign aid directed toward the Gambia needs to be efficient and effective and if confirmed uh that is the priority that I intend to take up.

Sen. Shaheen (NH)1:38:49 – 1:38:59

And have you spoken to anyone in the country about how they expect to replace those resources that they were looking for in order to see that tribunal finish its work.

Laurence Socha (Witness)1:39:01 – 1:39:16

Unfortunately, um, as Senator, pending this committee's uh decision and the vote of the Senate, I have not spoken to anyone in the country, but uh as I believe in my career one of the chief roles of a diplomat is to listen, I look forward to arriving to the Gambia and having those conversations.

Sen. Shaheen (NH)1:39:17 – 1:39:18

Thank you, thank you, Madam Chair.

Sen. McCormick (PA)1:39:21 – 1:39:41

Hey, thank you. Um, um, had to return from a quick vote, so uh I'll take my chance at some questions here. Uh, uh, Mister Master, I wanna start with you. Uh, and I know you had a, uh, some questions to ask and ran out of time at the end. So is there anything you'd like to I'll give you some time to answer any questions that you don't think you fully answered.

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:39:43 – 1:39:49

Uh, uh, Senator, I I'll defer to you on Slovakia, I think I've been on the other side too long, thank you.

Sen. McCormick (PA)1:39:50 – 1:39:56

Good, okay, very good. So uh let me ask you then a question about Slovakia um within the context

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:39:54 – 1:39:54

Yes, sir.

Sen. McCormick (PA)1:39:56 – 1:40:12

of Europe and some of the questions about leadership in the European Union. Uh how uh will you participate in concert with our NATO allies to ensure that there's a strong European response to Russian aggression and uh and

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:40:10 – 1:41:13

Yeah, thank you, Senator, for that, and I've been s since the eighties I've worked on Russia in some category, whether they're in the Cold War or in the Soviet facing the Soviets, the Eighth Guards Tank Army or or Putin today. And uh I have to say first off I'm astounded at at the turn of the war in Ukraine. We're seeing a revolution in military affairs happening uh in Ukraine, and uh I don't see how long Russia, despite its power and size, can endure. But be that in mind, we need a unified front from NATO um allies, especially Slovakia. And one key a step in that uh, Senator, I think, is finding a better way to get fuel and energy uh to Slovakia rather than relying heavily upon Russian oil and gas. I think one step, and you and I would love this, Pennsylvania, LNG going through the Kirk uh terminal in Croatia and then and then shipping it up to to Slovakia might be one way. As far as oil, it's a problem, I understand the refineries are are of Soviet era or designed to to refine uh Russian oil which is not as high grade as Pennsylvania or Texan or Louisiana and uh it's, but they may need some upgrades in that regard but I remember when I was in the

Sen. McCormick (PA)1:41:34 – 1:41:58

Thank you. Uh, Thank you. Uh, Mister Anderson, Mister Anderson, uh, uh, we talked about Chinese aggression and expansionist we talked about Chinese aggression and expansionist tendencies if confirmed, how would you expect to engage with Cambodian leadership to preserve number one, Cambodia's autonomy and to ensure the reamed naval base does not become a platform for expanding China's military power in the Indo-Pacific?

Donald Blome (Witness)1:42:00 – 1:43:11

Uh yes, thank you, Senator. Uh extremely valuable question. Uh it can really be approached from ominously almost everything in the spectrum. uh of Cambodia whether it is scam centers, economic activity, security cooperation, but most importantly regional partnerships uh when you get into the importance of ASEAN in what they do in the region. Additionally uh it will rely on face-to-face conversations with the Cambodian government. And if confirmed it will rely on me to sit down and have frank conversations of the reality of ream na- naval base and if it truly is, uh as Hunmanet says, open to all uh friendly nations. Uh if so, I think it's worth exploring uh the options of more annual visits from US naval uh vessels, but additionally uh as I said earlier uh if we see advancement in US bilateral relations, that means that we can explore additional tools in the toolbox based on that working relationship. And if confirmed I not only would be happy to do that, but work with this committee, uh having come from this institution, with this committee to really identify what we can advance.

Sen. McCormick (PA)1:43:12 – 1:43:38

Very good, thank you. And uh, Mister Blum, uh the Senator Rose and I chair the subcommittee on the Middle East and uh, we often talk about phase two of the Abraham Accords and our hopes and aspirations for the region uh given your your uh potential remit how would you think about the next stage of opportunities for expanding the Abrah- Abraham Accord countries and who who do you see as the most likely of candidates?

Donald Blome (Witness)1:43:42 – 1:44:21

Well thanks, it's a um uh important uh it's an important question I uh uh a a as we've been discussing here, the it's it's a moment while the region is is gripped with with crisis in many ways, it's it also presents a number of opportunities, there are a lot of active lines of diplomacy right now, uh I think one of the things we have to do is to make sure the expansion of that regional integration is part of those discussions um and and is linked to progress on these things. So I think there are opportunities. I'm not sure w- you know which country exactly is i i is the next candidate um uh uh I'm

Sen. McCormick (PA)1:44:21 – 1:44:23

A and if you did you might not wanna say it I'm imagining,

Donald Blome (Witness)1:44:23 – 1:44:26

Uh that's that's uh that's quite possible s uh Senator,

Sen. McCormick (PA)1:44:23 – 1:44:24

yeah.

Donald Blome (Witness)1:44:26 – 1:44:35

thank you. But I I uh I do think um I do think there are opportunities and and I absolutely um am am committed to exploring that. including with this committee.

Sen. McCormick (PA)1:44:37 – 1:44:41

Very good. We look forward to having hopefully having that conversation with you uh together.

Douglas Mastriano (Witness)1:44:41 – 1:44:41

Yes.

Sen. McCormick (PA)1:44:42 – 1:45:24

Uh that's a that's a common common goal for the both of us. Uh well listen to all of our uh nominees uh I wanna thank you uh for being here today, I wanna thank the families, thank you providing us with the benefit of your testimony and your answers. Before closing, I'd like to add any letters of support the committee has received to the record and I'll also note for information for all of you uh that the record will remain open until noon on Friday, July seventeenth. If there's any clarifications you'd like to make to your testimony or answers you'd like to provide to this committee, those would be most welcome uh up until that time. Uh with the thanks of the committee, uh with uh uh Senator Rosen and myself, uh this hearing is now adjourned.

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